• LiveLM@lemmy.zip
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    1 month ago

    Ugh I hope it isn’t near any homes because imagine having to stare at this out your window every day 😵‍💫

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      Imagine popping your head out the window suddenly seemingly being part of the elite pedo++ financial group.

      (Also if they rent & don’t disclose the mural, that would be pretty funny :))

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    Always love a George Carlin quote. He’d be on another level of rage if he were still alive.

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      I also appreciate that all of these motherfuckers look appropriately ghoulish, a bummer though that only Andrew really has suffered any major consequences. Even Maxwell is, seemingly, living it up in her prison cell.

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    A mural of another country’s political scandal is something you would never see in the US.

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    I think Trump is more of the sub in this situation, he claimed in an email to Epstein that he may or may not have sucked Bill’s dick.

    Fun fact, Bill Clinton is suing the DOJ and asking for a full release of the files, has been for months. I feel like if there were a lot of damning evidence against Bill in there then it would have come to light by now.

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      It’s a political maneuver. He’s betting on there being less bad about him than about GOP and that they’ll refuse anything that allows stuff to potentially be public outside their direct control and won’t push too hard on him as a consequence.

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          OK, and? He can drop that suit at any time and it will stop there, but such a lawsuit is a useful tactic. Specifically, it’s a MAD tactic, because he knows he is also implicated (I don’t think anyone genuinely believes he’s totally clean on the Epstein stuff) and the GOP broadly and Trump in particular want to go after the Clintons in particular.

          If he was genuinely about transparency, why do you think he fought and delayed on the subpoena until Congress moved to find in in contempt of Congress? The purpose of such a lawsuit is to create a threat against them to protect himself by threat of mutual destruction. Same as pushing for any deposition from the subpoena being totally public - also about mutually assured destruction. The goal is to threaten that if the Clintons are gone after in a serious way, he’ll take them with him.

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    anyone alright at deciphering and wants to let me know if I’m onto something?

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      You’re right. Without the Star of David it would be a good piece of art, but instead it looks like the artist really doesn’t like Jews

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        I only saw the Star of David when I wrote the comment but it was pointed out to me that there are blue bars above and below which makes it into the flag of Israel which is a whole different story. The story that he did have ties to Israel I wasn’t aware of.

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          I think it can easily be interpreted as antisemitism so the artist probably should have avoided it

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      It’s the flag of Israel, specifically. He had ties to former Prime Minister Ehud Barak and Israeli intelligence services; apparently Mossad was involved in his island’s security and supposedly he worked closely with them. He also funded the IDF through the US nonprofit Friends of the Israeli Defense Force and other settler efforts through the Jewish National Fund. Calling out Israel is not antisemitic; Israel is a state, not a religion or ethnicity.

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      How could you possibly make the case that his widely documented ties to a state intelligence apparatus ISNT a big deal, no matter what country it is?

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      The files are filled with Epstein’s weird supremacist ideas and interest in eugenics. The way he talked about his race vs everyone else was like something out of the worst antisemitic conspiracy theories I’ve ever heard.

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        All of Israel is at this point. They are nazis. They have 5 or 6 million others forced into ghettos they control and abuse coincidentally.

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        The P.E.Z. was nazi propaganda in the 1930s, but 2020s Israel is turning it into a torment nexus.

        It’s like something out if a Greek myth, when someone’s efforts to avert a prophesied calamity ends up actually being what causes the prophecy to self-fulfill.

        Reality is stranger than fiction sometimes…

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      Ahh, the ole “Israel = Judaism” argument that allows me to call anyone critical of genocidal assholes in Israel a racist. Classic!

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      It’s an Israeli flag, not a jewish flag, and he was an Israeli honeypot, as there is no way you do not know at this point that he was getting blackmail on people for Israel, it’s beyond dispute.

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      As a jew, I also had the same initial reaction to the star of david. Then I realized the bars of the flag are present as the band of the underwear and a line at the bottom of the briefs. I wish there was a gap between the bars and the top/bottom to make this more obvious and more accurate to the flag instead of the symbol of judaism. This being the flag makes sense. If it was just the star, I would agree that it is antisemitic.

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        Thanks for answering respectfully. I didn’t see the bars but now I do. Neither was I aware of any ties between him and Israel but reading the other comments, I guess I missed it.

        I try to make my critics of Israel about settler colonialism and genocide, not about Judaism. When I see an “against every antisemitism”-sticker, I put my “stop the genocide”-sticker demonstratively next to it. Speaking out against antisemitism stays important, especially in times where people conflate Israel with Judaism on both sides (either to defend the Zionist project or to attack uninvolved Jews) but in this case, I misread it and lacked context.

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      Based on evidence released so far it’s clear Epstein was a Mossad agent, running a child raping blackmail ring on Israel’s behalf in order to manipulate world events.

      I know you’re pretending to not know that, but it’s a fact. Another fact is that criticizing the government of Israel does not equate to antisemitism.

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        Please prove the “fact” that Epstein was a “Mossad agent” working on “Israel’s behalf” with a reputable source to substantiate your claims

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            You claimed Epstein was “running a child raping blackmail ring on Israel’s behalf” but that article doesn’t seem to mention sex or rape

            If Epstein had conversations with Israeli officials then okay, but I don’t think that means his sex crimes were some sort of plot masterminded by Israel

            You also said “criticizing the government of Israel does not equate to antisemitism” and yes I agree with that. But putting a Star of David on Epstein’s underwear in the artwork seems to me like an antisemitic dog whistle. Epstein was not known for links to Israel (as I said, maybe he had some conversations with Israelis, but this isn’t widely known). He is widely known to be Jewish though.

            I just think criticism of public figures should be based upon facts (which seem to be horrible enough in this case) instead of bigotry or conjecture

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              Neat trick I guess but I’m not buying it - you asked for sources on the Israel link and you got them, now you’re claiming they don’t indicate Israel was behind the child sex trafficking? That was Trump and Epstein’s job, and Epstein worked for Israel as clearly indicated by evidence revealed in the DOJ investigation’s released files.

              Israel is a terrorist state who will stop at nothing to complete the greater Israel project, which includes coercing western nations into fighting wars in its behalf in order to steal significant amounts of land from its neighbors. Honestly your weak attempts to deflect from that make me sick.

              Here are many more articles from dropsite discussing how Epstein worked with Israel in raping children: https://www.dropsitenews.com/s/epstein-and-israel

              Notice the latest one focuses on comms in which Mossad described how they would install surveillance all throughout Epstein’s apartment. If you think Israel didn’t at least know about the child rape as a result of this, then you aren’t serious. But I wouldn’t have suspected you of being serious to begin with. How about Israel, and its troll army, fuck off and worry about their own country instead of meddling and manipulating so many others?

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      He was funded by mossad. Epstein island was quite literally an israeli honeypot. Facts aren’t antisemitic.

      And the State of Israel ≠ the Jewish ethnicity.

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      You are straightforward jerking my chain, as there is no way that anybody could actually believe what you’re saying, right guys?!?!

      RIGHT

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      Given how all of America’s other wars have gone in recent history I’m pretty sure the emus and kangaroos will dominate the US military.

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          I don’t know if that would be “Breaking” news. Knowing them it would be more like “After decades of merciless guerllia style warfare in the deserts and cities of Australia, with hundreds of thousands of human lives lost, billions of dollars spent and the world seeing nuclear weapons again used in anger, President Barron Trump has secured a peace deal that requires complete withdrawl of US forces and giving the Emu Kangaroo Government of Australia complete control over the country.”

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      Trump: Lots of concerning things in Austria, kinda named like Australia so we have people looking into that. Sad!

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    Omg, this is extremely disturbing, and well done. Is Gates pregnant? Is that an allusion to an incident I’m not familiar with? I heard about the picture hanging on the wall of the rape mansion of Clinton in a dress so I get that one.

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    Imagine that mural in the US, the former land of the free. Trump would probably send his GeStaPo immediately to take down the terrorists who painted this.

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        ICE is the police force which directly reports to the Executive Branch, which is why it is Gestapo.

        FBI would be whatever was left of the Wehrmacht when Hitler took power, perhaps the Feldgendarmerie.

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          The Wehrmacht was literally the army. So no, not the FBI.

          The SA was a bunch of complete morons that attacked people and caused riots and got so out of hand that the government couldn’t handle them anymore. The Gestapo was smart.

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            The Wehrmacht was the entire republic, my dude. It was the feds. And the Feldgendarmerie were its federal law enforcers.

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        The FBI is the Gestapo

        Not yet. When they start eliminating all the brown shirts, AKA ICE then they will be the Gestapo. I wonder how many of them realize that they are scheduled to be eliminated in the plan.

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      They haven’t come after me…yet. Here’s the front of my house ON THE HIGHWAY.

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          What neighbors? Any house that sold in the last TEN years was bought by some commercial endeavor. Rental, Airbnb, tax writeoff…

          I don’t have neighbors, just some people passing through.

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            It has turned into an interesting social experiment.

            This small town is economically divided. Half the people work for the government in one way or another. Police, Sheriff, Highway Patrol, Forestry, BLM, Fire department…

            The other half is on welfare.

            The well-to-do people HATE it. I have been flipped off by some of the city council officers. It’s anyone who is driving a new car dislikes my “art”.

            The poor people LOVE it. They shake my hand and tell me to “Keep it up”.

            So… it looks like I’m working for the poor man.

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                When I retired, I had a desire to explore the art world. My first BIG project was this dictionary I tied to the table with chains. Title: Hard Bound, Bound Hard.

                It is my interpretation of things like when you buy a John Deere tractor and they tell you you can’t work on it. You own it but it’s not yours. We are starved for knowledge but drowning in information.

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                  Dunno how I feel about painting a bunch of swastikas on the side of your house, but I love your energy comrade. It’s a brave new world.

                  be mindful of what you post online, but I’m sure you appreciate the risks, take care.

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              I caught vandals trying to paint over it. I won in court. They had to pay me for damages.

              It’s making me money.

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    Okay, the pizza thing is apparently a pedo dogwhistle (which is part of why Qanon went nuts about the existence of pizza restaurants) but why is Bill Gates mpreg?

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      “Cheese pizza” has been slang/a euphemism for child pornography (due to the initials being the same, “cp”) since at least 2010. I wouldn’t call it a dog whistle.

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        Maybe you know it as common fact for some reason but also

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_whistle_(politics)

        It communicates a specific message to a specific group in a way meant to pass unnoticed to the larger public without further context. It’s literally a textbook example.

        Unless you want to argue that anyone talking about cheese pizza in public is obviously a pedo because it’s clearly the dominant and assumed meaning?

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          “Cheese Pizza” was a way of calling out and warning other users of pictures that were sketchy and of suspiciously young looking girls without running afoul of filtered or banned words on some bulletin boards and then forum/social media. It was picked up as slang for cp by “edgy” teens and eventually became so common that the pieces of shit that were posting the questionable stuff started referring to it that way. The same thing happened with the pedo bear.
          You don’t have to have been a pedo to have run into pedo shit in the early days of the internet. People didn’t want that shit on their computers and in the early days browsers would cache every image on a page just in case it needed those images again later. So, when you did stumble across this shit, you let others know so that they didn’t have to deal with it and manually purge their caches.

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          I’m just saying the term has been around for a while and felt more like a euphemism than a dog whistle to me in how people used it.

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            I mean, dog whistles are a kind of euphemism by definition, and I’ve literally never seen anyone but Epstein in his emails use cheese pizza to directly mean CP or victims.

            If you’re seeing it that much as a casual euphemism you really need to ask yourself some questions about the people saying it and why you’re hanging around them.

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                Why would a random grafitti mural have anything deeper than a jab at the common use of the term cheese pizza for csam, and the whole pizzagate mess?

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                  Bc if they use key shift cyphers they can say one thing and mean another, but it only looks one way. Its a fantastic and simple way to hide messages.

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              Literally the use of pizza imagery as code for pedo stuff was one of the central claims of the qanon pizza gate conspiracy. Seems like other than it not being in the basement of a pizza place with no basement they had most of it right, strangely enough.

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                I’d have to go back and look at the pizza gate stuff from that time. Because I also remember it wasn’t just a conspiracy about child sex slaves, they also believed the elites were feeding on adrenochrome. I haven’t kept up with the Epstein files and it’s really difficult to keep up with what’s sensationalized versus what’s actually in there. The idea that Epstein and friends pushed the adrenochrome version of the story to cover the more grounded child sex ring version isn’t too far fetched. It’s so difficult to separate conspiracy theory from fact in this shit. Genuinely the worst timeline.