I’m not asking what’s the worst/one you respect the least. I’m asking what’s the least likely to help you get work.
I think any bachelors’ degree is worth something. Getting work in the field you specifically are interested in can be the tough part though. Alternately, there can be lots of jobs, but none of them pay a living wage in the area you’re in.
You would need to have been in a very niche program to have not a lot of directly transferable skills. But even then, there are a decent amount of employers that would treat any bachelors’ as sign that the applicant is more likely to be able to learn on the job through training.
Whatever the most marketable one was about ten years ago.
There are actually logs of surveys and studies done on this subject by schools, governmental, and financial institutions. They all have a pretty heavy stake in what degrees loans are being handed out for and whether that person will be able to repay it. There’s really no need to speculate because there’s lots of data out there.
The NY Fed found people who earned diplomas in criminal justice are the most affected, with a 67.2 percent underemployment rate. They were followed by majors in performing arts at 62.3 percent, medical technicians at 57.9 percent, liberal arts at 56.5 percent, and anthropology at 55.9 percent.
Some fields fluctuate… Like, kids hear that engineers are in demand or whatever, and sign up to uni for the job prospects, but so to heaps of others, so 5 years later when they’re done, the market’s already stabilised and now there’s an oversupply…
Probably not most of those fields you mentioned, but it’s still something to keep in mind… Don’t pick something that’s only recently gone up in demand.
Me in comp sci rn when hs me saw tech had most jobs available
Yeah, comp sci is rough right now. The entire industry is extremely toxic. There’s a reason the old “this repo is archived; have taken up farming” meme resonates so strongly with programmers.
Woohoo I’m the in the 54.1% of employed anthropology majors! Not that my work has anything to do with it anyway.
I’m just gonna leave this here: https://seanheath.ca/2024/02/22/noah-the-slave-pirate/
Yeah I’m a nurse and this article tracks. I get callbacks on applications within a week of submission or sometimes same day. Are they good jobs? Maybe. But there’s no shortage of them.
But this article also highlights something I’ve always said about cops, whose degrees are basically worthless according to this article. A degree isn’t necessary for their job while it’s literally illegal for me to not have one as well as a license that can be revoked if I fuck up bad enough.
Cops imo have a similar level of responsibility if not for health specifically definitely for safety. They should have to be licensed and that license should be overseen by a public safety board that can remove it. You should be able to maybe get a 3-6 month certificate or something to ticket people for parking in handicapped spots or noise disturbances but you should need at LEAST an associates to carry a gun in the protection of public safety, preferably a bachelors and in addition to martial arts it should cover everything from law, basic / developmental psych, basic first aid and how to identify when a disturbance is probably being caused by a medical problem that needs eval after it’s been safely contained etc.
I do actually believe there is a need for public safety officials who can show up and stop people from injuring each other but we really need to up our expectations for ethics and competency.
The fact you have to be licensed and go through years (decades?) of study, training, etc, to help people medically…
But you don’t need to do that to get a free pass to assault and shoot people…
Is something…
Yeah, the average length of training in the US for officers is 6 months. That means there’s places that require more and places that require less. There are over 2,000 individual departments in the US with varying rules and requirements. In Germany you can’t even carry a gun on the force without a 4 year degree.
i suspect in more red states, its faster training. in places like cali there might be more extensive process.
Yeah, I knew plenty of data exists and I think it has a place in this thread. I’m also curious to hear people’s opinions on here. Never know whose an HR manager or hiring person. I appreciate the info you provided! I’m particularly suprised by the medical tech one. I guess I always think of those as certs or associates level. CJ is kinda surprising too.
That reads like you prefer anecdotes over data.
I want to have a conversation about a thing. If I just wanted data I’d google it.
Makes sense, engagement is often the point of social media. 👍
Philosophy.
Yeah I feel like thats one of those where you need more advanced education after.
its doable if you become a phd though, but you probably wont get tenure anytime soon. probably as adjunt. if its just a bachelors like with psych, its unlikely. i took a class where the instructor was doing his philosophy doctorate.
It’s good as a first degree for some fields that require more than one degree. Philosophy to Law is pretty common, since philosophy forces you to try to think of scenarios in different frameworks, as well as deconstruct arguments and viewpoints.
Philosophy on it’s own, does not open up nearby any non-university jobs though
You might be able to transition that to something like HR or something idk
Or I could transition flipping burgers to HR and not have $100k in debt
In before ‘gender studies’.
I don’t think there’s a good way to evaluate how ‘marketable’ a degree is when that depends so much on where you’re talking about. There are degrees that are way easier to use to get a job here in Los Angeles than they would be in, say, Nebraska.
Sounds true
Most arts degrees really. I think people mostly do arts degrees with plans to do a second degree in something more useful
In my very limited sample size, it’s the one I got…
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Are you set for money already?
I almost did art history, but for the job market (and I live in a place with a ton of art museums). The one art history course I took was fantastic, though.
Have you thought of pursuing further education to be an antiques appraiser through Sotheby’s? That was something my art history professor recommended, and I did consider it tempting but ultimately decided against it.
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That’s awesome! My teacher was working on his and had some insane number of pages written on his thesis, I think like 300? But he seemed to be loving it, so I hope you do too.
The wealthiest (self made) person I know got an art history degree
Conservation. They waited till I had already been locked in to tell me that the only work you can get even with a degree is voluntary.
Is that similar to an environmental science degree?
Depends what your emphasis is. There are a plethora of jobs at environmental consulting firms and it’s generally work that AI cannot do, so it hasn’t hit us hard in that regard. Anywhere there is construction happening, you need environmental consulting work.
I got my degree in Computer Science a decade ago, but never got my foot in the door. I feel like my degree is not worth the paper its printed on, recruiters only want experience, but I can’t get experience because I don’t have experience.
I spent the last seven years working an unrelated dead-end data entry job, but they kept increasing the workload until I couldn’t handle it anymore. I’ve spent over a year sending resumes out into the void and haven’t even gotten a single interview yet.
It might not be the single worst degree of all, but at least in terms of degrees you’d expect to be worth something, I think CS has the biggest gap between expectation and reality.
alot, lib arts, studies, psychology if you arnt going to grad school dont bother with a job, because there is none.
so many people i know went for psych while in college and gets mad when there isnt any. 1 of my cousin went to grad school for a PsyD and thats where the jobs are,. Also history, if you are thinking about only western history, its oversaturated, apparently asian history,etc is in short supply, i think some people wants to be a western history profess, often tend to be more elistist than not.
DO YOU WANT FRIES WITH THAT?
No issues with psychology here. My daughter just finished her master and got a job in the field at her first try. They pay for a number of additional qualifications (language, first aid, etc, which are required for this job) before she starts in September.
thats what my cousin did, got her PsyD and did additional training. its the people get a BA and assuming it leads to jobs, which is strange and they get bitter overtime, because its well know for like forever.
Philosophy, History, English, etc.
Anything that really only opens up to teaching the subject you got a degree in, really. Not that I disrespect these, it just seems like they offer extremely limited job opportunities.
My girlfriend has a BFA in opera.
She wears a helmet with the horns?
Literally, what is this even for?
Well, opera singers have to train somewhere. The job market is a little slim though.
Yeah, it was a dumb question lol.
One you can’t back up in an interview without pulling up chatgpt, and only if you have no prior work experience.
After you’ve had a job for a year or two every degree question is just “did they get a degree,” and even then rarely is there a care; the post-grad job performance is what matters.
This is coming from a Journalism major/English minor who got a job in programming a decade and change ago by getting an internship at a company that later hired them (I was familiar with Linux and cross-platform tools the CS majors wouldn’t usually touch and which mattered to this company).
Of course, things are always changing. But fundamentally if you can’t back up your BA/S it won’t matter what it is.
software engineering
