• Snowclone@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    I’m sorry do we have medieval Italian political satirists on the table for basic conversion? the crazy thing is, I’ve read books by all the individuals mentioned, and most of it is very old, and very specific to it’s time, and largely entertainment. this is like someone 500 years from now saying they can’t hold a conversation with someone if they don’t have a deep familiaity with the deeper meanings of The Simpsons and Family Guy and how they impacted society.

  • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Meanwhile, I imagine the actual historians and scholars who study and teach of the classical world professionally rarely feel the need to drop lists like this.

  • MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social
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    12 days ago

    Surely at least one of these people created something about not being a pretentious asshole?

    I’m pretty sure this guy learned nothing from them.

  • LouNeko@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Bare minimum to enjoy a beer around a campfire: ACDC, Rolling Stones, Lynyrd Skynyrd, White Stripes, Dire Straits, Genesis, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Kenny Loggings, Gorillaz, Jefferson Airplane, The Animals, Bon Jovi, R.E.M, Bonnie Tyler, Eminem, 50, System of a Down, Rage against the Machine, Rob Zombie, Nirvana, Papa Roach, Tenacious D, Dorothy, Floggin Molly, The Subways, Bush, Disturbed, Wolfmother, Guns and Roses, Scorpions, ZZ Top, Armand van Helden, Die Antwoord, Billy Idol, Fleetwood Mac, Ram Jam, Eagels of Death Metal, deadmau5, Foreigner, Daniel Norgen, The Weekend, Cari Cari, Shakira, Cher, Gaga, Rihanna, Michael, Prince

  • melfie@lemmy.zip
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    12 days ago

    Hopefully in 10 years, he will read this and cringe, although it sounds like he’s actively driving away people who think differently and would call him out on his bullshit to help him grow as a person, so maybe not.

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    12 days ago

    I don’t care what you focus on, as a person.

    But if your entire identity is wrapped up in your career subject or an exceedingly narrow slice of reality or a stereotypical commonality that even comedians joke about, imma gonna judge you something bad.

    It is vitally important to be well-experienced, to have encountered variety and complexity in one form or another. To have travelled and meant people all over, or taken up hobbies that are hilariously distant from your daily grind, or to have plumbed the depths of literature, or any number of horizon-broadening activities.

    Even something as simple as taking up handyman duties around the house, instead of calling companies to handle exceedingly basic tasks, is an improvement.

  • El_Scapacabra@lemmy.zip
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    12 days ago

    I meet none of those criteria and I actually wish that would stop these people from talking at me.

  • JigglySackles@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Dude looked up “famous old authors” and started listing his search results.

    A great example of someone that can’t have a conversation is someone that thinks those are deciding factors.

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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      12 days ago

      Yeah, seriously, Melville is on that list. I haven’t heard anyone who actually read Moby Dick in modern day say that most people should.

      Tbh if someone can’t discuss modern or less classical stories or philosophers well I take that as a sign that they don’t have the intelligence/well reading to understand/analyze something without relying on other people’s observations or to add their own thoughts to it.

  • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
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    12 days ago

    Imagine doing this with any field other than humanities and you’ll see how ridiculous it is.

    Like are you talking to a cohort in your weirdo western canon circlejerk college program? Because otherwise you might have to be flexible about the where the conversation goes. And then you might actually learn something rather than just do keyword association bingo to “impress” your conversation partner with your incredible knowledge.