Compleete side track. I have met a lot of people with “advanced” degrees who were total idiots. Guy/girl/whatever, doesn’t matter. And advanced degree means you have a peice of paper. And that just means you convinced a few people at so,e point that you knew something about a very specific topic “usually”. I knew calculus at one point. I don’t know any of it now.
sounds about white
This is the douche character in Good Will Hunting.
Surely at least one of these people created something about not being a pretentious asshole?
I’m pretty sure this guy learned nothing from them.
Bare minimum to enjoy a beer around a campfire: ACDC, Rolling Stones, Lynyrd Skynyrd, White Stripes, Dire Straits, Genesis, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Kenny Loggings, Gorillaz, Jefferson Airplane, The Animals, Bon Jovi, R.E.M, Bonnie Tyler, Eminem, 50, System of a Down, Rage against the Machine, Rob Zombie, Nirvana, Papa Roach, Tenacious D, Dorothy, Floggin Molly, The Subways, Bush, Disturbed, Wolfmother, Guns and Roses, Scorpions, ZZ Top, Armand van Helden, Die Antwoord, Billy Idol, Fleetwood Mac, Ram Jam, Eagels of Death Metal, deadmau5, Foreigner, Daniel Norgen, The Weekend, Cari Cari, Shakira, Cher, Gaga, Rihanna, Michael, Prince
no Phish?!? check out billy breathes sometime great campfire album.
Uh huh. Uh, yeah. Oh, I recognize some of these!
How did Hendrix and The Hu not make the list?
Name 5 songs
Twinkle twinkle little star
Itsy bitsy spider
Mary had a little lamb
Jack and Jill
Row, row, row your boat
black betty
amber lamps.
hopital
thunderstruck, thunderstruck, thunderstruck, thunderstruck, thunderstruck
I thought this attitude that the “classics” were what made you intelligent and worthy went out of fashion some time in the 50s… guess it still has its holdouts
No, it was what made you (classically) educated, not intelligent. And for people who don’t really know each other it is easier to start the conversation if they have something in common. That’s one of the reasons it used to be expected to have some education in this direction.
Also, the douchebag in the original picture wrote Cellini twice, so he is not even “intelligent” :)
The second one is the lesser known Bob Cellini from Poughkeepsie, who had a poignant bathroom wall writing style.
A guy asked me one time if I thought I was smarter/better educated than the classically educated American founding fathers, and I was like, “You mean the guys who didn’t know about dinosaurs or plate tectonics?” Also they thought they’d finish making the government at some point and then just never did, which we’ve been dealing with for a long time now. So yeah, those guys weren’t idiots, but let’s not pretend they were special.
Those peole remind me of the line from it’s always sunny:
“The government of today has no business telling us how to live our lives because the government of 200 years ago already did.”
It’s said by a creep who you’d never leave a kid around giving it’s got some extra contextual fit.
The second one is the lesser known Bob Cellini from Poughkeepsie, who had a poignant bathroom wall writing style.
isn’t he the guy that first scrawled the classic:
here i sit,
broken hearted.
tried to shit,
but only farted
Western classicly educated. Which isn’t great as it starts from the false premise that ‘i think therefore I am’ when eastern classics have it the other way round.
I am, therefore I think.
How does “I am therefore I think” work? Rocks are. Water is.
The amness comes before the delusion and illusion of thought that i think causes.
Evolutionarily and subjectively.
I can tell you’re not “western” classically educated, because if you were, you’d add “I know that I know nothing” ;-)
I is an illusion ;)
The bright mirror has no stand? :)
But there was a belief that demonstrating that education did correspond to intelligence! I’m not saying it’s accurate!
“Guy who keeps a Rubiks cube in a display stand on his desk at work so he can explain it’s not that hard to solve them” energy.
“I know, I just taught my niece how to solve one. She’s so smart they’re letting her skip kindergarten!”
He may be have plenty of knowledge but for sure he’s not smart
Neither is she. He clearly turned her down first, so I don’t see any reason for her to explain her case at all.
Minimum women authors/thinkers required to be familiar with: 0.
And yet so many : Jane Austen
Agatha Christie
Countess of Ségur
…Margret Atwood
I personally won’t consider a man worthy of having a conversation with unless they know Bell Hooks, Angela Davis, Rosa Lichtenstein, Ursula K Le Guin, Octavia Butler and Judith Butler (token enby)
LeGuinn is such a good test for sci fi nerds. Oh you insist everyone must read Herbert, Asimov, Clarke, Heinlein, etc, but you’re not including her? Yeah the Left Hand of Darkness and the Dispossessed (and I’ll throw in a rec for The Day Before the Revolution) are just as foundational and iconic.
Like, I’ll concede Dune reads really good, but where LeGuinn doesn’t feel quite so smooth from the start once everything is unfolding her brilliance shines through and you’re left just thinking about what she’s communicating. Hell, if I dated men I’d want them all to read left hand just for the feminist understanding of it. The Dispossessed remains one of the best pieces of political fiction written. And then the day before is such a powerful look into the mind of an old woman.
Fundamentally LeGuinn is one of the great sci fi authors of the 20th century and imo she’s got better staying power than some of the others
No that’s the maximum
I do wonder sometimes why most of the history nerds I know are men. Not that I know no female history nerds at all, but men appear to be more drawn to history, or more encouraged to be casually interested?
I’m not sure, this could be all exclusively anecdotal and the actual numbers may not reflect my experience.
Anecdotally, I’ve noticed the same thing, but I think it might have something to do with the type of gatekeeping and “well akshually” apparent in the original post.
Most of the male history nerds, especially the ones who are dicks about it, are into war history. Talk to women who are into history and they’re out there building historical recreations of clothes, making historical food(there are some men doing great here, too), talking about niche histories of human rights, and all manner of crafts.
Most importantly, the history men learn is called “history” and the history women learned is called “traditional techniques” or “neat little facts” or basically anything that tries to not count it in the same way. They “don’t know history” and their “traditional techniques” are considered to be just crafting hobbies.
Thank you for writing the comment for me so I didn’t have to. Every history nerd I know in my life is a woman except one. The women know all sorts of interesting contextual things ,the origins of traditions, crafts, foods, the local area, and social development. The guy I know knows all about wars and battles amongst other classic History things. Both are valid and count!
I think there is likely a more even gender distribution of history nerds who are truly interested in history when it comes to topics outside of politics and military. A lot of men tend to use it for ego stroking and fantasizing about being the great men of history, while there is no similar avenue for women in that regard.
oh! That is such a great point! To be fair, a lot of the male history nerds I know use it for practical purposes like writing TTRPGs, which were predominantly played by guys for a long time, but I feel like even that is evening out gender-wise lately as they grow in popularity.
That being said, I have definitely seen examples of the fantasizing and ego-stroking on the internet.
in fact, now that you mention it, I do know a fair few of women with a very deep interest in philosophy, and you can’t exactly get deep into philosophy without historical context, ergo, female history nerds. Women are also a lot more interested in history when they are represented, and I don’t think I need to soapbox to you about the lack of feminine representation in history texts.
Exactly this. You’ll notice that some men like this only know history from a certain racial or geographical background so it’s not so much a general interest in history as it is feeling great vicariously through a historical figure.
Bare minimum for holding a conversation: Cézanne, Renoire, Rembrandt, van Eyck, David, Vermeer, Fragonard, Turner, Courbet, Matisse, Kahlo, Picasso, Basquiat, Richter
hey look, i can gatekeep my special interest, too! 🤦
Bare minimum for holding a conversation: Obscure conspiracy theory websites and subreddits, Robert Monroe, Courtney Brown, David Icke, Aldous Hickey, Michael Palin, Steven Greer, John Lear, Richard C. Hoagland, and Linda Moulton Howe
Also you must be able to quote at length from the original Time Cube by memory.
No van Gogh? Fucking casual.
/s
Bare minimum for holding a conversation: Scott, Palmer, Malone, Hudson, Martinez, Martin, Howard, Kapoor, Bratton, Lapin-Vance, Bernard, Lewis, Hannon, Philbin, Halpert, Beesly, Schrute
It’s kind of fun in an ironic meme way!
Bare minimum for holding a conversation: Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy II, Final Fantasy III, Final Fantasy IV, Final Fantasy V, Final Fantasy Tactics, Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VII Dirge of Cerberus, Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy IX, Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy X-2, Final Fantasy Tactics 2, Final Fantasy XI, Final Fantasy XII, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy XIV, Final Fantasy XV, Final Fantasy XVI, Final Fantasy VII Remake, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
Dirge of Cerberus was very underrated.
It’s edumacated, not edumacted. Get it rite!
Bare minimum for holding a conversation: don’t be like this guy
Most of those topics were taught/mentioned in highschool. Does he want a freshly graduated person - bc no way anyone who is not in humanities would retain it long term…
Tf is “woman with advanced degrees”
I assume a PhD or maybe even a bachelor’s in something other than psychology.
I’m assuming masters and doctorate
