Matvei Bronstein: Theorical physicist. Pioneer of quantum gravity. Arrested, accused of fictional “terroristic” activity and shot in 1938
Lev Shubnikov: Experimental physicist. Accused on false charges. Executed
Adrian Piotrovsky: Russian dramaturge. Accused on false charges of treason. Executed.
Nikolai Bukharin: Leader of the Communist revolution. Member of the Politburo. Falsely accused of treason. Executed.
General Alexander Egorov: Marshal of the Soviet Union. Commander of the Red Army Southern Front. Member of the Central Committee of the Communist Party. Arrested, accused on false charges, executed.
General Mikhail Tukhachevsky Supreme Marshal of the Soviet Union. Nicknamed the Red Napoleon. Arrested, accused on fake charges. Executed.
Grigory Zinoviev: Chairman of the Communist International Movement. Member of the Soviet Politburo. Accused of treason and executed.
Even the secret police themselves were not safe:
Genrikh Yagoda : Right-hand of Joseph Stalin. Head of the NKD Secret Police. He spied on everyone in Russia and jailed thousands of innocents. Yagoda was arrested and executed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genrikh_Yagoda
Nikolai Yezhov : Appointed head of the NKD Secret Police after the death of Yagoda. Arrested on fake charges, executed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Yezhov
Everybody was absolutely terrified during this period. At least 600 000 people were killed and over one million people were deported to Gulags in Siberia.
I would argue Maximilien Robespierre did it before him
I can’t believe Trotsky convinced Robespierre to do the Reign of Terror
I never mentionned Trotsky
OP incorrectly said Trotsky influenced Stalin’s authoritarianism, so I was making a joke about that.
That’s why I’m a capitalist, who famously have never killed anyone for being a communist
Your downvotes hint to this actually being juust some more imperialistic propaganda
The downvotes hint at a general awareness by users that whataboutism is a playground debate technique on par with, “I know you are, but what am I?”.
If a point is valid in a vacuum but has no bearing on the topic, it absolutely should get a negative reaction.
no actually i disagree with that.
imagine you develop a new medication (let’s call it Medius just to give it a latin-sounding name) and you give it out to 100 patients suffering from a certain disease. Shortly after, 30 of these people die.
Now certainly critics can say your medicine is dogshit because it killed 30 people. You might respond “well normally around 80% of people suffering of that disease die” but that would be whataboutism … just because they die without your medicine doesn’t justify that some people die when you give them your medicine.
You see?
No we don’t see, because that isn’t whataboutism.
Whataboutism would be saying that even though your medicine killed 30 people, your competitors medicine killed 50 people so yours isn’t that bad.
it depends on what your baseline is, in other words what do you consider the case of “no treatment at all”
like you argue that some political system killed so and so many people so the system is bad; compared to the baseline of no political system at all.
the question is whether that’s a meaningful baseline. like, what does “no political system” actually mean? is there even such a thing as “no political system”? some would argue that everything is political, therefore there cannot be a society without politics.
and then there is the question, if you say that there definitely is a hypothetical society without a political system, why have we never seen one? where is the real-world example?
And the medicine is for common cold
Hahaha, nice 1
You don’t have to be a psychopath to obtain power, but it makes it easier. You do have to be a psychopath to want the power to murder indiscriminately.
Honestly, the guy was a real jerk.
party foul!
I see you there P and R ref. Well played!
To put it mildly
No way
the more I read about this Hitler guy the more I don’t like him
Adolf Hitler? The art student?
The lesson is not to reject aspiring artists from art school, lest they decide to take over a country and start invading their neighbors.
Shocking, right? I was similarly surprised when I heard about the extracurriculars of Ted Kaczynski, the mathematician.
Some people need better hobbies.
I disagree with a lot of Ted Kaczynski’s reasoning in his manifesto. But he wasn’t wrong that we are destroying the environment and letting consumerism ruin everything. Honestly, I think most of the people on this site would agree with his assessments even if he came to the conclusions under faulty assumptions.
Half the people on this site are advocating for stochastic responses to the current U.S. government anyway. So whats the difference?
I’m sick of these kind of characters. I think we should kill Hitler.
Also crazy that he just died from a cerebral hemorrhage at the age of 74. If it weren’t for that, he’d probably have another 20 years in him.
Most likely he lucked out and avoided a public beheading.
It’s possible he was assassinated.
That’s always the problem with being in power, there’s almost certainly someone who wants to get rid of you, but the more paranoid you behave about it the number of people who want you gone increases.
I wouldn’t say that an alcoholic in his 70s who died from cerebral hemorrhaging was assassinated.
Stalin spent the last 15-20 years of his life getting blackout drunk every single night. He also forced all of his top ministers and generals to join him in this drunkenness.
The full story is wild.
Then when Stalin died, everyone sort of knew that he was having a medical emergency, and they left him laying on the carpet to die for hours.
Which is also a wild story.
He was slowly poisoned over years by this arch rival, Stalin.
Apparently these communists aren’t any good
Eh, massively outperformed by capitalists on that end.
Fascist slop. Disregarded.
Exactly. Because nobody has ever died under Capitalism…
Vietnam war, 1.3 million. Korean war, 2.5 to 5 million. US Afghan war, over 240k. Iraq war, 600k to 1 million.
Or how about the 100,000 pregnancies impacted by thalidomide? The millions poisoned by the use of leaded gasoline? Or the deaths caused by forever chemicals, as companies knowingly poisoned people with Teflon waste?
Just scratching the surface here…
Are you saying the facts are wrong?
Nope, just twisted from the very first sentence saying Stalin was inspired by Trostky, when they were ideologically opposed, just because Stalin followed something he pointed out ("In politics, obtaining power and maintaining power justifies anything”), which Nicolò Machiavelli already pointed out before lol
Trostky was very vocal about Stalin’s dictatorship being, at best, a degeneration of an actual workers’ state, and got found and executed abroad for it. Had he known to play politics to shoe himself as Lenin’s heir like Stalin did and not fumbled the ball, the USSR’s democracy might have survived
This is whitewashing Trotsky
When he had a (suspected) stroke, they sent out for a doctor. They couldn’t find a single doctor who would treat him, so they put him to bed and he died a horrible death.
The guilty were innocent so being innocent was a crime.
New canon: neocons astroturfing YSK
How tf is writing articles about historical facts astroturfing??? I live in post-soviet eastern european country and we have a saying “If a theory doesn’t match the facts, so much the worse for the facts.” precisely for people like you
I am a real human and I am trustworthy
I swear this exact post was made a while ago here
People post shot to multiple communities on multiple instances.
If hitler were a lemmy thread he’d be this one
And Russia would join in an alliance with him
Whenever someone says we have to take control no matter the price and ignore all our previous values and laws you know what is coming next.
I also like murdering every capitalists so you can be the only one. Very Highlander.
Coming to a theatre near you soon!
State Capitalism
There can be only one…
Is this post satire?
“Stalin was a communist leader inspired by Leon Trotsky”??? The two were massive rivals with completely different ideologies.
I can heae the Hexbear slop community furiously masturbating at thought of ripping this post to shreds.
As they should, with factual errors this fucking baby-brained
LOL LOL of course a tankie came out for this one.
Define tankie.
Any actual notes?
Damn, you sure showed them! Got any other galaxy brain zingers in there, Megamind?
Did he Make The USSR Great Again?
He kinda did, actually!
Pretty sure it was not the optimal way, but the country has seen unprecedented economic growth and improvement in the quality of life. Excluding fear of being sent to Gulag, that is.
In any case, it’s hard to make up a bigger opposition to MAGA than Stalin, lol. Both are authoritarian, though.
