In the Akashic Records, which exist outside time and space and is where our knowledge is truly stored and in the processes of our lives we experience novelty from the remembrance of being, but in the AR, all beings are recorded in their purest form. Santa Clause, being a staple of every good occident child’s upbringing thanks to the eldritch chthartherage of capitalism at large, is a unique superpositional being. More than the whole naughty/nice rigamarole, and even beyond the ancient horizon which predicates the krampusallia manifest of durging banes square, Santa exists as he is depicted. In. Every. Depiction. Ever. Rule 34 goes deep on Santa to include a minimum of three SCP entities tied to the beinghood-essense of Santa just for pornographic reasons alone. The memetic potential is unequivocal. It’s not literally Thantos snapping his one ball out of existence here, but it’s close. Santa could wipe out the whole universe if anyone finds this proof for P=nP I whipped up in five minutes for some reason. My coffee was talking to me. That’s how I knew, cuz I always knew, I just needed to remember.
Santa had Icy BMs stored at the North Pole prior to indoor plumbing.
BM is very naughty. Kinda hypocritical of him.
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Why is Hamburgh spelled like that?
Hamburgh may refer to: An older English spelling of the German city of Hamburg, used up until the 19th century, from which the other meanings below are derived
Huh. Maybe it’s the birthplace of the German Ebenezer Scrooge. “Bah, Hamburgh!”
I don’t think anyone is going to confuse the weather in Windsor, Ontario and Rome, though.
Not yet. Global warming melting Greenland ice sheets is likely to cause the AMOC to slow / collapse, ending Europe’s temperate climate. This is possible within your lifetime.
Just to add some explanation on this for those who don’t know:
The AMOC, which is a massive circular oceanic current in the Atlantic, passes in a South-North direction at the surface near Europe, bringing warm water from Africa, which helps make Europe warmer (especially near the Atlantic) than it would otherwise be.
Hence why it slowing down or even stopping would end Europe’s temperate climate.
Just to add even more explanation on top of yours: “AMOC” is the fancy science-y name for what is more popularly known as the Gulf Stream, plus the rest of the currents that form a loop with it.
From what I remember last time I read up on this, in conjunction with global warming, there is roughly a line from Paris to Frankfurt where more north than that, temperatures cool down because of AMOC collapse, and south of that temperatures are higher than pre-industrial because global warming outweighs AMOC collapse cooling.
But of course those are just relatively rough projections, and it’s average temperature, the extremes will still be way worse. So it’s not like Frankfurt will have peachy weather while the rest of the world goes to shit.
Can’t wait to skate on the Tiber
I like when Venice freezes over and they skate everywhere
The Mediterranean Sea and Gulf Stream do a lot of work in that regard.
I’m in Seattle and live further north than the majority of Canadians. Canada reaches as far south as Northern California’s latitude, and if you live in East Tennessee, you’re closer to Canada than you are to Memphis.
The mainland US is crazily far south. I thought Washington would be level with London
Well, and it’s crazy how cold the middle and eastern parts of North America get.
Boston and Chicago are famously cold cities. Chicago is exactly parallel with Rome; Boston is only 50km north of Rome. Rome, Barcelona, even Tblisi - all about 10+ degrees C (so 20 degrees F) more mild in the winter than Chicago. The entirety of France, including its southern coast, is north of Boston. Paris is almost far enough north to be exactly at the long E-W US/Canada border. Yet rarely gets below freezing.
The entirety of France, including its southern coast, is north of Boston.
Acktyually, the southernmost point in France is 50°01′ South (Îles de Boynes in the southern Indian Ocean). 🤓
Somewhat more legitimately, there are also inhabited French lands further south than Boston: Corsica, French Guiana, French Polynesia, Réunion, etc. Corsica even counts as “Metropolitan France” (as opposed to “Overseas France”) while still – barely – beating Boston by about 1°.
That’s why I said “continental France” and certainly didn’t edit my typo.
And it’s not even just the northern parts. Here in the Ozarks we see everything from sub zero temps to over 100 every year.
Latitude is crazy. London would sit in the Hudson Bay, and Atlanta is a similar latitude to Casablanca or Baghdad.
The UK is the most fun one to do comparisons with. The north end of Scotland is at the same latitude as Churchill, Manitoba. Churchill has polar bears.
I have always felt the opposite. Europe is way further north than I would have expected given their climate. I realize now it is kept warm by the gulf steam and North America get that in reverse, hence really cold eastern Canada and New England.
No reverse. New England and eastern Canada are warmed by the same currents too, albeit not as much. The heat generally comes from the Caribbean. North Korea and Hokkaido have far colder winters and milder summers at similar latitude.
I believe you actually have it backwards. Europe is warmed by the gulf steam, it cools off on the way back to Canada and the US. If the Gulf Steam is disrupted as predicted, the UK is going to be in for a really cold time.
the cold water returning to the tropics flows deep under the warmer surface waters and has much less effect on land temperatures.
this is where i got the claim from, that NE USA and E Canada would also cool down with no AMOC. (the sea-level rise in that region would be an even bigger problem though)
I think you may be misreading the map from that link a bit because it is fairly low detail and doesn’t point out the landmarks very well. The “gyre” as it is referred to in the linked page doesn’t really reach the northeast US much at all, it mostly stops at around the area between NC and VA where the coast protrudes. If you want to see a cool image based on satellite data that shows it off, check this out (https://www.earthdata.nasa.gov/news/worldview-image-archive/gulf-stream). That being said, some of that warm water does still affect a the NE US a bit (not so much for Canada), so the gulf stream faltering will make it colder, just not as dramatically as places like the UK which based on latitude would likely have temperatures closer to Sweden and Norway.
Your comment six hours ago had a claim that eastern Canada and New England were cooled by the amoc. I think that was the only thing the other poster was going against. Your recent comment now agrees that eastern Canada and New England would be colder without the amoc.
why is it so colder?
Elevation maybe? Most of Canada is pretty high up from sea level. Dunno how much of Europe would be the same.
AMOC
What does that stand for?
Atlantic meridional overturning current. It’s an ocean current that draws warm water up from the east coast of South/Central America, north and eastward
Could be multiple factors no? It can’t just be the one.
Alberta is still really freaking cold, and there is warm air coming up the mountain range all the time.
Alberta is landlocked, isn’t it? Places deep inside a continent are always much more variable in annual climate than coastal places, as the ocean has such vast thermal inertia.
Yes, but that doesn’t apply unilaterally, the east coast gets pretty harsh winters compared to the west. The west coast hardly gets snow. The east coast constantly gets multi foot snowfalls and -30c weather.
Even New York in the USA gets blanketed with snow frequently.
It can be multiple factors, but a lot of it is AMOC.
Continental versus marine climates. Water has a lot of thermal mass, and it moderates the diurnal and seasonal temperature swings in areas near bodies of water. With the jetstream moving weather west-to-east at these northern latitudes, air masses moving across Canada cool off over the land mass of the continent before hitting the central and eastern cities. It’s also much warmer in the summer in those places, for the same reason.
Even if AMOC shuts off completely, Europe generally will be somewhat warmer in the winter, and cooler in the summer, than Canada.
Even if AMOC shuts off completely, Europe generally will be somewhat warmer in the winter, and cooler in the summer, than Canada.
I hope you’re right, but research has recently suggested that the Little Ice Age was caused by the AMOC shutting down in the early 1400s.
The Little Ice Age was one of the coldest periods of the past 10,000 years, a period of cooling that was particularly pronounced in the North Atlantic region. This cold spell, whose precise timeline scholars debate, but which seems to have set in around 600 years ago, was responsible for crop failures, famines and pandemics throughout Europe, resulting in misery and death for millions.
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But in the late 1300s, AMOC strengthened significantly [due to increased solar activity], which meant that far more warm water than usual was moving north, which in turn cause rapid arctic ice loss. Over the course of a few decades in the late 1300s and 1400s, vast amounts of ice were flushed out into the North Atlantic, which not only cooled the North Atlantic waters, but also diluted their saltiness, ultimately causing AMOC to collapse. It is this collapse that then triggered a substantial cooling.
If this research is correct, losing the AMOC again could cause a huge crisis for Europe.
Yes, I agree. No doubt that it’d cause a major crisis in Europe, and I didn’t intend to imply otherwise. Its people, agriculture, buildings, and infrastructure are all adapted to the current climate, and a sudden shift will be very hard to handle. We saw that with the heat waves this past summer. Phoenix, Arizona routinely handles higher temperatures, but the buildings there are all equipped for it, while ventilation and air conditioning are not common in much of Europe.
AMOC
Part of it but local geography has a larger impact for the more continental side of Europe. The Alps are very important since they block a lot of cold wind circulation from the Arctic that really cools down North America.
(AFAIK) Ocean currents and winds (until now) regulated the weather in Europe. When that’s gone, it will be wise for half of Europe to acquire a cargo sled.
https://geographyclassroom.com/gulf-stream-and-europes-weather/
And until then they’ll need AC’s. Welcome to life in the American Midwest, everybody! It’s very sustainable!
I’ve been to Vancouver during the Olympics and the weather wasn’t very different from what I’m used to in the Netherlands.
X-mas is supposed to bring us together, not blow us apart!
“Your mistletoe is no match for my TOW missile!”
Is that Greg Davies? Huh. Never been a Dr. Who fan, but I might check out that Christmas special.
Santa Claus is gunning you down.
It’s not that canada is south as much as it is Europe is north, like a lot.
Here at the 45th, we are about where Paris is at. Scotland is way the fuck up there.
Ya, exactly this. I used to live in Tromso, Norway. It’s roughly the same latitude as the north coast of Alaska. I remember -12c being a cold day in winter. That’s insane for that far north. Anywhere else at the latitude experiences -40c regularly.
Toronto is lower than Montreal? Wow, I suck at geography.
Santa done fucking around.
It’s robot Santa from Futurama
Your mistletoe is no match for my TOW missile!
