Lemmy is filled with Chinese agents posting spamoflage. It’s interesting to notice once you pay attention to it
Western supremacists cannot process the idea that someone might sincerely disagree with them: the only explanation most be that they are perfidious foreign devils
Lemmy is filled with communists, not “Chinese agents.” Why the dishonest, Orientalist framing?
American police be like :
Two things can be bad.
Supporting US authoritarianism and believing US propaganda about its adversaries from said US authoritarian media can indeed both be bad.
liberals not explaining the excruciatingly obvious to us challenge: impossible
Did you know that also:
- Only one thing can be bad.
- Only the other thing can be bad.
- Neither thing can be bad.
If you don’t have an argument, then don’t pretend to make one.
Maybe I’m not using enough words, as I know your kind prefers extraneous verbosity.
My argument is that not liking China does not imply liking the US.
Now make like June 4th and go away.
Now make like January 6th and go away.
fixed it for you. lol
That was a good one.
then i hope you’ll enjoy the next one too. lol
We shall see
you wiill see; i’m fully expecting it and trying to plan around it.
My argument is that not liking China does not imply liking the US.
No claims it does, so who are you arguing with?
Then this meme makes no sense.
I think you’ve missed the point entirely.
It’s a way to highlight American exceptionalism that paints an orientalist picture of China passed through a very Western oriented lens and pretends it’s the objective truth, while ignoring that they’re entirely projecting the failures of their own system on China with absolutely no evidence
Hope this helps xoxo
your kind
Angry 12 year old phrasing detected
Lol a meme should be easy to dismiss or respond to but I have never once seen libs have a counter to this specific one.
They can but they aren’t
Real talk: Why is my silly memes feed clogged up with unfunny propaganda trash?
gringos when they see beyond the wall
I dunno, maybe because your sinophobic brainworms tell you to get offended by anything China?
Its lemmy.ml memes if you dont like them perhaps unsubacribe.
Have you considered going back to reddit? They maintain the kind of pro-western echo chamber you sound like you prefer
I"m of the mind saying screw both the USA government and Chinese government. They’re no friends of mine.
I’m glad my government isn’t a friend of yours if they catered to the sensibilities and whims of every white saviour who condemned them and us without any meaningful investigation instead of working for the people of China and the advancement of the struggle against imperialism it would clearly end terribly for us.
中华人民共和国万岁！
毛主席万岁！
人民万岁！
Ahh the tried and true your authoritarianism is bad, mine is good argument. Hey, what was that about imperialism and Taiwan?
It’s always the same, you guys always just throw out a couple proper nouns and a pejorative term and hope that’s the same as making an actual point. Well, it isnt: not when you’re talking to people who actually know about this shit.
Hey, what was that about imperialism and Taiwan?
You know less than nothing. You would have to unlearn things just to break even, to know nothing.
This is the absolute peak of just throwing out random shitlib shibboleths.
Authoritarianism isn’t real it’s a pejorative used by the unintelligent and uninformed to smear those the west deems bad. All states, movements, groups under class society are authoritarian. The question is not is there authority (as the answer is obviously yes exercising authority is not optional so long as antagonistic class relations remain) but authority of what class, used for what ends.
And what of Taiwan? A forward base of imperialism kept split from the mainland by the US intervention around the start of the Korean war stoping the full resolution of the Chinese revolution. “The union were so imperialist when they stopped tolerating the confederacy”. You should investigate things before slinging lazy gotchas and talking points you don’t seem to even grasp the reality of.
Also I don’t think you really understand what imperialism means. Imperialism is a specific thing. It is the division of the world among great powers to enforce super-exploitation via financial dominance and military coercion. China does not partake in this on the contrary China offers non coercive developmental pathway alternatives to the global south breaking the reliance on IMF loans and the conditionalities attached. As well as backing states in resisting foreign interference such as the DPRK, Cuba and Iran.
Sure, whatever, you have a good life. Hopefully you’ll realize government control just means we cannot full actualize ourselves.
God, you petulant fucking baby
The fact you don’t know the difference between the state and the government really exemplifies the fact you have no real grasp of reality beyond vibes. I would highly recommend you do some introspection and question why you think/believe the things you do.
I genuinely wonder if anyone has ever followed this advice.
I sure don’t; Western contradictions had to kick my ass before I started to understand how propagandazied we (Americans) are and I’m certain that a similar experience is the only thing that that will force my compatriots to do likewise.
I would say it’s a non 0 amount of people but not any amount of note. Struggle is what brings consciousness to the forefront after all.
The CPC is a communist party working in the interests of the working classes, so I think that’s a good thing.
But, imagine, if my government is evil, how evil the barbaric hordes must be 🤯
Lol… Uyghurs.
Lol, hispanic and colored people
etc…Reminder that we don’t have ample photographic and documental evidence (or any at all, tbh) of the genocide alleged by neocons and amplified by liberals, unlike the tons of evidence for genocide in the US and Gaza.
But of course, what libs call a genocide abroad is just a small violation of due process in the US.
Just like the Jews amiright?? 😂😂
No, you’re not right
Opposite, actually, there’s an overwhelming amount of evidence for the Holocaust. Equating it to the Xinjiang programs is actually just Holocaust trivialization.
Wow wow, you can’t just explain they have jails too like every other country and that terrorists who try to blow up planes, drive trucks into a crowd and stab people might end up there.
You might end like me and get banned from a shitload of communities by a power tripping mod for ‘death camp advocacy’.
LOLTo be fair, I have gotten banned for that from instances like Feddit.org, Piefed.social, and Lemmy.blahaj.zone.
Quite literally the opposite. What makes questioning the holocaust (much like the genocide in Gaza) so heinous is the fact that it is so incredibly well documented that the only possibile explanation for questioning, downplaying or denial is pure hatred. On the other hand in Xinjiang, a tourist hub with millions of tourists every year, in an advanced country where almost everyone has smartphones there is essentially 0 evidence of genocide. Unless you believe the Chinese government has secretly developed teleportation or invisibility or some such nonsense that merits questioning that in all these years no reputable organisation has called what’s happening a genocide that there is no real proof and that the 2 biggest faces of the movement pushing for the classification are American intelligence linked Christian evangelical “on a mission from god to destroy china” (Adrian zenz) and a Guantanamo bay torturer (Rushan Abbas).
tHiS mAkEs ChiNa gOoD bY cOmPaRiSon
Lol. Your moral compass is fucken garbage.
“not committing genocide is just as bad as committing genocide, and your moral compass is garbage if you disagree.”
You are dellusional.
Sorry, I’ll rephrase;
“not committing genocide is just as bad as committing genocide, and you’re mentally ill if you disagree.”
You are propagandized.
“lol… White South Africans”
Regarding Xinjiang, the best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective’s Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is a group of Chinese diaspora living in the west, and they compiled an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims. The majority of their sourcing is western, and they cite official Chinese government writing and white papers when relevant. Uyghur culture is preserved.
I also recommend reading the UN report as well as (especially) China’s response to it, which eclipses it in size and detail.These are the most relevant accusations and responses without delving into straight up fantasy like Adrian Zenz, Christian nationalist and professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation, does. Zenz’ work has been thoroughly discredited, yet is supported by western media for its utility in fearmongering. An example is lying about 8.7% of new IUDs as 80%, to back up claims of “forced sterilization,” from this chart:
There’s not actually any credible evidence that the Uyghur people are facing mistreatment. And in fact, plenty of evidence that the CPC has improved their lives.
http://marxism.cass.cn/en/marxist/202401/t20240104_5725502.shtml
Yes, China is an AUthOriTaRiAn country, but the US don’t have even a 10% of civilian rights as Chinese people have, in education, healthcare, culture, housing, etc…
Example of civil rights in China
To say nothing of the fact that the US has a massively higher rate of both imprisonment and execution.
Every form of government is authoritarian by definition
Some of those are wild to see.
That shit would be forcibly taken from them so fast here in the US, thanks to eminent domain and the worship of corporations exploiting resources to the fullest. I think they’d get paid, just not y’know, have freedom and property rights and shit.
They wouldn’t call China authoritarian if it were Anglo, European and Judeochristian. It has always been very thinly veiled Yellow-perilism.
Forget the dick, what is the dude in the background dressed as? The one with the beard
One in red on the right of the Chinese side? Think depressed thor from endgame?
Renea Gamble was found by a municipal judge to be not guilty of disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, disturbing the peace, and providing a false name to law enforcement. (The allegedly false name was “Aunt Tifa,” which is hilarious).
She has filed a civil claim seeking monetary damages of $2 million and attorneys fees.
Still. A civilized society doesn’t give every single person in a uniform the licence to tackle, kill and assault without facing consequences. Sure, the money’s nice, but not getting tackled would’ve surely also been nice. And more civilized.
Aunt Tifa is lucky to be alive. She also hit a jackpot with the damages. She’s also white, which should explain that.
But the problem is that not everyone has her luck or complexion.
Every police in a civilized country has a professional training for several years, including psychology, laws. In the US the police only a training of some month, mainly self defence, no schoolgrade needed to access. ICE agents not even this.
China already is where Bannon wants to be.
Thats how American police treat a 62 year old woman in a costume.
Two things can be authoritarian.
They can be but aren’t
Yep, the US Empire and it’s vassal states all use authority for the imperialists.
The authoritarianism is exercised differently in both countries. Mainly, the US state is openly more physically violent. In China, surveillance, media control, censorship, and control of their population in general is stronger (but the US is rapidly trying to catch up). As one example, the US wouldn’t have been able to effectively silence Naomi Wu and presumably remove her way of making a living at the time, if she was a US citizen in the US.
surveillance, media control, censorship, and control of their population in general is stronger
Bullshit
Says the person replying to me in a platform that’s blocked by China’s Great Firewall?
Did that make sense in your head?
