Holy crap, that truck driver only looked up in the last quarter-second. They most certainly were not “following too closely”, that’s bullshit.
The driver of the 2007 Dodge Ram pickup was taken to Wynn Hospital in Utica for treatment of minor injuries…
In the past, that accident would have been fatal to the driver. The only thing that saved him was government regulation requiring safety features, paid for by taxes–just to put a nice, fine point on it. Not everything our governments do is horrible, but I suspect the motivation in this case was insurance company lobbying, not empathy. It’s never empathy.
Distracted by cell phones me apparently
I love how the white dude found out his kid was black, meaning his wife cheated, but he hugged and raised his son anyway.
Permaban.
Not on lemme, there’s no mods to save you
Thats what I said, permaban
You got banned for pedophilia tho
Aight, I’m just going to block this community. Mods are complicit.
This guy lives in a world without black women and adoption.
Or new relationships
can’t upvote a link to an adblock-disabling site, sry
That’s the most Dodge Truck thing I’ve ever seen.
I don’t see a video on this link at all
Its in the post description
I’m betting his phone was found jammed against his face.
I’d like to know what was on the driver’s phone that was so much more interesting than a stationary bus a hundred yards in front of them.
He was calling about his missed payment because he bought 5 times more truck than he can afford. “But I need a $70,000 truck.”
I hate to share this story. Have a friend. She did the same thing. She wasn’t on the phone, she wasn’t distracted, and she wasn’t intoxicated. HER KIDS WERE ON THE BUS. She just dropped them off. Country roads heading home same as every day before. Routine. She saw the bus and she just wasn’t there mentally when the bus stopped for something on the road. Worst still I used to get all worked up over shit like how did you not notice and what not. We’ll it happens. I read a study done on people who forgot their kids in cars. Well our brains are fucking assholes. The just of it if you ever forgot your phone, wallet, keys, lunch, what’s ever. This could happen to you.
This might be “normal” in a system where people are forced to work above their limits causing cognitive impairment, and still forcing them to drive a deadly vehicle. It shouldn’t be normal though.
His ego.
I know there is lots and lots of righteous anger here. And that everyone can’t wait to hate on the vehicles in the US. But even a quick and dirty cursory search reveals that school bus transportation is extremely safe and accidents are very rare. So let’s add some context.
School buses travel about 16.5 million miles EVERY morning in the US. Double that for total route distance every day.
There is one crash roughly per 311,828 miles. That’s 501,822km for those of you living in West Texas.
Buses travel 7.3 million miles/11,748,211km for every reported injury.
The rate of fatalities is .4 per 100 million miles. And for those anywhere in Alabama, .4 fatalities per 160,934,400km. And that is the total of deaths inside and outside the bus.
Hopefully I can trust Lemmy users understand that zero injuries and fatalities are statistically impossible to achieve. Nor is it possible to reduce stupid to zero. This driver is a prime example of that. Regardless of the vehicle being driven. At best, we can just change the type of stupid. But stupid still going to happen. And apparently even Dodge Ram drivers are statistically very safe around school buses…
zero injuries and fatalities are statistically impossible to achieve
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vision_Zero should still be our goal, and the U.S. lags behind most other countries in achieving it.
The bus wasn’t the problem here.
Cool now do F-150s
The initial investigation indicates that the pickup driver was following the bus too closely
Did they not see the video? Bus was almost at a full stop and it still took the truck 5 seconds to hit it at Mach Fuck. Not even a nervous driving instructor would call a >5 second follow distance “too close.”
I suppose it wastechnically the truth… Embedded in the back of the bus is certainly following too closely…
I wouldn’t be surprised if the driver is a cop or at least knows the investigators. Sounds like a very fishy conclusion, the video makes it obvious he definitely had time enough to react.
That’s the traffic offense. It’s the ticket you get when you rear-end someone. They aren’t trying to throw the book at the driver. It’s a routine citation.
Whoever wrote it just called a traffic ticket an “investigation” to make it sound dramatic.
Yep, that’s exactly what I thought. Even if you say that you were “brake-checked” for example, the cops in NYS will still give you a ticket and tell you to take it with the courts.
§ 1129. Following too closely. (a) The driver of a motor vehicle shall not follow another vehicle more closely than is reasonable and prudent, having due regard for the speed of such vehicles and the traffic upon and the condition of the highway.
Not to mention that NYS has stricter laws than most other states regarding stopped school busses; if they’re stopped, you can’t drive past them even if you’re in opposing traffic.
This story stinks, but glad that no kids got seriously hurt.
“On the same highway system in the same reality” is apparently too close for this negligent shithead.
That’s the traffic offense. It’s the ticket you get when you rear-end someone. They aren’t trying to throw the book at the driver. It’s a routine citation.
Whoever wrote it just called a traffic ticket an “investigation” to make it sound dramatic.
2007 Dodge Ram
https://smartfinancial.com/car-brands-with-most-accidents
#2 in accidents. No surprise here.
Well at least it is living up to its name…
I get a 403…
Perhaps the Sun was blinding his view.
Look at the shadow direction in the video.
That doesn’t explain why it happened.
What are the downvotes for? You actually know why this happened?
Look at the angle of the shadows in the video – the sun is behind the driver
That isn’t an explanation of why it happened.
If they couldn’t see well enough to see something as large as a bus, the correct response is to slow down, not plow through at the speed limit.
That doesn’t explain why the driver didn’t slow down.
The point is the fault is 100% on the truck driver regardless of how well they could see. If they could see, but didn’t brake, it’s their fault. If they couldn’t see, and didn’t brake, it’s their fault.
That’s not a full sized truck. That’s some wankers oversized support vehicle
Needs a truck that big to fit his magnum dong
Now imagine that it was a sedan doing a carpool. Fuck everyone who drives a truck to commute around town. Fuck everyone who thinks, I’ll buy a truck because I’ll be safer. I hope gasoline goes up to $15 per gallon and every truck driving piece of shit has to choose between eating or driving because of their moronic vehicle buying decision.
If it was a sedan doing a car pool they’d probably all have been decapitated… So him having a truck saved his life
Dunno what your argument is but it’s kinda insane
No… a car doing a carpool instead of a bus.
They were talking about the bus. If the truck rear ended a sedan, not if a sedan rear ended a bus.
they’d probably all have been decapitated
If that’s a risk, do you not have underrun bars?
But also as someone else said they meant if it was a regular car instead of the bus, not the truck.
Sedan instead of a bus. I’m guessing you drive a truck to commute to an office job every day?
If you drive up the arse of a goddamn school bus with that much stopping distance you deserve to hurt only yourself, not the kids in the back of that bus.
Truck or no truck, you can’t fix stupid.
And thus, for everybody’s safety, no truck.
Just for that ignorance, on my next finance, I’m going to trade in my toyota and get a 2500 ram with a cummins. Cause fuck you.
Ok potential child murderer
Look here bud, that’s not much of an insult. Seeing as how anyone can be a potential child murderer. Just as easily anyone can be a potential billionare, just as anyone could be a potential athlete or potential homeless person. Every one has potential to be what ever the fuck they want.
anyone can be a potential child murderer
You just decide to multiply your chances by 10 while spending double in your vehicle and in fuel for literally no reason
Wtf are you talking about? Lol. Buying a child killing machine is a conscious choice that also costs that person double or more on the purchase price, gasoline, tires, oil and other maintenance. You have to overlook all of that and still say, I don’t care that there’s no way I would see a child right in front of my truck. I’m still going to make a terrible financial decision because I’ll be more protected and more likely to kill someone else. I got mine!
Look here bud, that’s not much of an insult.
Jesus fucking Christ man. Take a look at yourself. You don’t think being called a child murderer is much of an insult. Fucking wow
Do you actually own a veichle? Or do you just pretend to know what you are talking about?
Nah, all you priks and your shit attitudes regarding pickup trucks is pissing me off. So instead of huffin and puffin, I’ll just get me a new truck. Because I can. Yall act like every pick up driver is 100% guaranteed to kill your kids/dogs/grandma’s the moment they leave the lot. Yall act like pick ups are these thirsty fuel guzzlers. Funny my loaded 2011 3500 cummins gets better fuel economy than my 2023 highlander with a 4cylinder. And I don’t even have to pay premium in the cummins. What else. O my truck insurance is $250 dollars less than toyota. And guess what quotes for new trucks are 150$ less… tires? Tire cost less because I can put on a set of LT rated tires they will last longer and can get better deals on them. My trucks have needed so little maintenance over the years that when I took the new car i was Hella unprepared for that headache.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/06/21/us/trucks-suv-pedestrian-crashes.html
Thought of you, you fucking monster 💩
Good read, regardless, fuck you with the best intentions. The left turn part is bullshit. Yes, the pillar is thick. But fuck man is the drivers neck broken? Like lean forward and/ lean left. A blind spot isn’t just over your shoulder. It wherever you don’t have a visual. Move your damn head, eliminate the blind spot. As for the truck hoods part. They say it’s to look meaner. No, that’s the job of the bumper, grill, and headlights. It is practical, if anything. Each model from 1/2 ton, 3/4ton, and 1 ton size have different engine and drivetrain configurations. Okay, with a cylinder turbo gas engine there is lots of empty space. But what about a big inline 6 diesel or even a Ford V8 powerstroke diesel? Now add room for a front axle for 4wd, and a 8spd 10spd transmission behind it for tighter EPA regs. What happened in 2007? Mandatory diesel particulate filters and regen systems and exhaust gas coolers had to be put in. Gota make room for that. Then, in 2009 , the DEF became mandatory. gota make room for all that as well. Look under the hood of a cummins dodge or even worse yet, ford power stroke. There is absolutely no space under the hood for anything. It’s jam-packed all the way to the top.
A simple solution would be a front camera that are on from stop to 50kmph amd you know not being a lazy fucking meat bag and moving your head around a few inches forward and to the left.
Side note everyone likes say “just buy a van for work” but vans have just as high of a hood
I just asked a question but your response is pretty telling
Lol you didn’t even ask a question.
You told a bunch of people to fuck themselves.
pretty telling
Lmao
Well you’re responding to a thread that did have a question in it and then pointing at the original comment instead of the one with a question.
That being said, you’re still correct. If you drive a truck without a specific use that you use it for almost every day then go fuck yourself.
Is that clear now?
Well you’re responding to a thread that did have a question in it
No I’m not. There is no question in this thread.
Not unless you’ve edited one of your comments to add one after I made this comment.
Is that clear now?
Ok fine, now there’s one rhetorical question.
Nothing was ever unclear.
Trucks r bad grrr. I get ya brother.
Best to tell people to fuck themselves and see if they react calmly and rationally. If they don’t, be sure to act like it’s pretty telling.
Was referring to the question further down. Thought you were responding to that one not the main comment. My bad!
Yes, the people who are so rational and calm that they purchase vehicles specifically designed to kill toddlers and hurt other people when traffic accidents occur. Making a conscious decision to spend double or more on purchase price, gasoline, tires, oil and other maintenance just so they can say, fuck you I got mine. Rational and calm people who, when given the chance of a car crash only causing injuries to both parties, they’d prefer to kill the other people as long as they don’t get hurt. How dare I be mean to them!
Next time you see someone going out of their way to hurt others make sure to ask them kindly to stop. You wouldn’t want to be too assertive and make them upset. I can’t imagine anything worse. Well, maybe running over a toddler with a vehicle that was intentionally made to have less visibility than an Abrams tank. But that’s just me. At least certain people don’t need to worry about driving safely because they’re more protected than everyone else. Pretty good trade off, right?
Anybody that writes whole paragraphs ranting against straw men should go fuck themselves.
It will have a specific use every day. To drive my children around so they are safe.
Yeah, you’re right, children in smaller cars don’t deserve to live.
It’s more important for you to feel cool.
You’d think a bus would be tall enough to get inside the vision cone of a lifted truck…
It would be, but his cell phone blocked it.
