It could be an album, movie, tv show, whatever.
Dr Who after Peter Capaldi left.
The plots went to crap. The retconning destroyed decades of canon. I’ve nothing against the actors involved but the writers should be taken out and beaten.
I keep trying to give it a chance and don’t understand what the fuck happened, but I feel so bad for Jodi Whitaker and Ncuti Gatwa. The writing is so awful it’s like they don’t even get to play the same part.
The Last Airbender 2010 by Manoj Nelliyattu “M. Night” Shyamalan.
He ruined it. Nearly everything but the costumes were wrong. He should try again out of his own pocket to make amends.
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How did you feel about The Legend of Korra?
Overall I liked Korra. It has two big moments though that rubbed me the wrong way.
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The part where they broke the Avatar cycle was a awful direction to take the show. Also making platinum the most plentiful resource was a brain dead villian arc.
I was extremely excited in the beginning because the setting felt very well-constructed. I thought that bending contributing to rapid technological progress made a lot of sense to me, and I really like that there wasn’t excessive exposition regarding the state of the world.
So much of what they did from that point just felt so corny.
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- When Amon took her bending only for the Avatar ancestors to pull up and return it like five minutes later
- Raava and Vaatu being just one-dimensionally “good” and “evil”
- The fucking kaiju fight
- Introducing the dictator lady, Kuvira—can’t remember how to spell her name—like three episodes before the next arc, telegraphing that she was the next villain focus so hard
- Kuvira then doing the trite “you saved me, but why” and just completely folding on her entire mission
It was just so disappointing for me. I don’t know if they got creatively restricted, or if something happened with the original writers or what. I don’t regret watching it, but I just wish they had taken or had been able to take more risks.
Yeah I agree, overall the story was bad. I really enjoyed the characters and slice of life aspects of the show. I felt some of those points you bring up were big weaknesses to the overall experience. It felt like the team was targeting a younger group than before. (Or I just got older haha)
I can corroborate your last point because I watched both of these series relatively recently, and I also have little to no nostalgia associated with the subject.
I actually used to despise when ATLA came on. At that age, I could never commit to following plot-heavy shows, because I didn’t really watch TV a ton (I thought I watched a lot, but I’m learning now as I talk to peers that it was not lol), and the show felt like it was on forever, eating up time on Nick. I finished it up around this time last year and ATLA is now among my favorite shows ever. I continued with TLOK shortly after, and yeah, those were my feelings.
So from my experience, I’m not gonna say it’s the whole “growing out of it” thing. TLOK just is a less interesting story, the way I see it.
I hated the above Avatar movie but I loved TLoK. She is such an awesome character and has tonnes of growth and development, along with the fantastic lgbt end of the series. It was definitely a little difficult in the first few episodes but a big part of that was the transition from a rural setting to a city setting decades later, so it went from the backwater technology level to the cutting edge near a century later.
Spirited Away was too cringy and it had no consistent worldbuilding and therefore no consistent stakes, it just felt like a list of things happening for no reason, kind of like a dream.
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted for your opinion.
Personally, I don’t think you’re wrong, but that’s also not really the point of the movie. It’s not trying to make a spiritual world with hard rules per se. It’s more about growth and uses the spirits to set the stage for conflicts for the main character to overcome (with the consistent stake of losing herself/her identity)
Like many studio ghibli films, it’s about facing pivotal times in our lives and overcoming fears so we can better face the challenges of everyday life.
My neighbor Totoro has the kids moving to a new place and dealing with a sick parent, spirited away is about moving to a new city, whispers of the heart is about first love and how to decide what to do with your life, Kikis delivery service is about heading out into the world. In many of these movies, the fantastical is used to present these challenges in a more approachable way, but the “stakes” are almost always internal and personal.
I don’t get his criticism for inconsistent world building. Like you said, it lacks hard rules because it is based on Japanese folklore that is mostly mysterious in its inner workings, but it doesn’t mean it is inconsistent.
Like many any media tied to a specific culture, it assumes a familiarity with the culture - in this case shinto beliefs and japanese folklore. If you’re unfamiliar with those things then a lot of the rules and situations seem to be random and come out of nowhere.
A similar scenario would be like watching Scream or Scary Movie without having seen the movies they make references to. You might still enjoy the movie, but without the context of the films they satrize/parodize you won’t fully appreciate what the movie is doing.
It makes it an understandable criticisim, accesibility of a movie is a valid complaint. However, I don’t think it’s one that necessarily reflects on the quality of the movie, but rather is a warning about who will appreciate it.
I think familiarity affects how much it meets your expectations, not necessarily how consistent the world building is. Saying it is inconsistent either means the guy doesn’t understand what inconsistent means or they think only things that meet their expectations can be considered consistent.
What is inconsistent about its world building?
There are just no rules, anything can happen for no reason
Not having clear rules doesn’t mean it is inconsistent. If the same thing happens and the result is different, that would make it inconsistent. I don’t remember anything like that happening in the movie.
How old were you when you watched it or how long ago did you watch it?
I watched it at around 17/18 I think?
Oh. Maybe watch other studio Ghibli stuff. They have some more grounded stories like
- From Up on Poppy Hill
- Whisper of the Heart
- Only Yesterday
- Ocean Waves
- The Wind Rises
I think the Eurovision Song Contest has lost the innocent magic it once possessed.
…of its own choice.
Yep ,go back to 80s
Yeah it sucks since around 1994
The TV adaptation of Preacher. The comics were more like a western but with a dark sense of humour that popped up when the moment called for it. The tv show was ‘wow, this is so wacky and wild!’ I get the impression Seth Rogan liked the comics but didn’t actually understand them at all.
The Netflix version of Cowboy Bebop.
The cast was great but the script was just horrible and really ruined the show.
I can’t think of a better example of disconnect between source material and output. Just… What happened? It’s like it was written by a focus group.
I have zero hope that there will ever be any good live-action remakes of anime. I remember how everyone was excited that the Ghost in the Shell live-action was just mediocre.
If that cast and production crew had made an original show about a dark funky future and bounty hunters and whatever, clearly inspired by Bebop but not trying to be it, they could have knocked it out of the park so hard.
They would, of course, have had to get some decent writers instead of just feeding the original anime scripts to crack-smoking monkeys and then smearing their poops onto script paper.
On a related note, I was really underwhelmed and disappointed by last year’s new Shinichiro Watanabe anime series, Lazarus.
As a huge fan of Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo (and to a lesser extent Space Dandy) I was really looking forward to another serious anime helmed by Watanabe. What we got was, for various reasons, not the least of which being the untimely death of Bebop writer Keiko Nobumoto, really boring and subpar at best.
I struggled to finish it, and I probably wouldn’t have bothered it it wasn’t by a creator that I like and respect.
it was genuinely baffling how superficial and shallow the writing was, how underwhelming the direction was and how uninteresting the character designs were (I genuinely can’t remember a single one). The animation and music were great but overall it basically felt like a painfully average Netflix flick rather than a Watanabe.
Yes, I agree. To me it is almost like they ignored the original storytelling and the story and instead wanted to make something more “hollywood”.
It is the deep background and how the stories are told along with the awsome music, that makes Bebop so good. Not flashy one-liners
Perhaps controversial but I don’t think animated shows should ever be translated to live action, at least where fantasy, sci-fi, and exaggerated action are pivotal to the story or art style.
Especially when they try to make it available and shoe-horn it to a wide general audience that probably haven’t seen the original show.
One Piece turned out okay.
it’s quite fresh in my mind, but the last season, and especially the last episode, of The Boys was nothing compared to what it could’ve been.
boys 3-5 seems to have suffered, as kripke got lazier in running the show. vastly different from the first 2, usually he does very well on 5 season shows, like with supernatural, but boyz? spn 6-15 had nothing to do with kripke, thats why the show was so bad.
i thought 3 and 4 were great, but 5 was really rushed by the second half. they didn’t use the Gen V cast barely at all in the finale and the last episode is just a mad dash to tie up as many plot threads possible. a really lackluster finish to what was otherwise an amazing series!
It was still entertaining, but they really turned the propaganda up to 11 and the rest of the show suffered for it
Great Expectations. It just wasn’t all I’d hoped for.
I thought 2 Great 2 Expect was fun, at least.
Yes!
And is Great Expectation: Tokyo Drift part of the same franchise? It wasn’t clear…
Dragon Age 2 just that one at some point it was unbearable. 1 and 3 (inquisition) are awesome.
cant think of anything other atm (but probably incoming)
The last Divergent book. I want to like the Divergent series more. The authour was inspired by a lot of things I like. But I think she wrote the first two books without a thought-out plan for the third. They leave the city and you expect there to be some big purpose for divergents in the outside world and then we just get a lot of nothing. We get an explanation for the factions that make them make even less sense than before.
Her newer books are better.
65 was such a missed opportunity. It’s about a guy who crash lands on Earth right before the asteroid that kills the dinosaurs. Spoiler alert: he escapes just in time to avoid the asteroid. It’s just a generic survival movie with generic monsters. Waste of a premise. It should have shown the beautiful side of the dinosaur world and made us sad when they died
I am still mad that I paid actual money to see Valerian and the city of 1000 worlds
I found that movie simultaneously really good and really bad. Somewhere under there is a deep story about colonialism, but it’s really poorly executed
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Payday 3. I had 2k hours in Payday 2, done every heist on death sentence one down and when the beta for Payday 3 came out my friends and I tried it and wow it was bad. We tried it again after it came out and had a few patches and it’s still bad.
The movie version of The House with a Clock in its Walls.
