• Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Cause it wasn’t “their” daughters. Remember, those same guys would fuck any other man’s daughter and expect it to be okay. They lack the mental skills to understand another person’s perspective.

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      30 days ago

      Tangentially related, it bothers me people say things like “I have a daughter so I get why it’s upsetting” or whatever. It implies they wouldn’t be able to empathize if they didn’t have one. I know that’s not necessarily always the intention, but it just rubs me the wrong way.

      • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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        30 days ago

        I was more going for the split personalities concept. The same person can say they will kill you if you touch their daughter, but then sit down with their buddies and a beer and relive how heroic they were that one time with mary joe when they got caught and her father peppered the tailgate of his truck as he sped away. Pretty sure there are popular songs about the later. So it’s okay if they do it, but not if someone does it to them and theirs.

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        30 days ago

        Conservatives tend to score lower on empathy and have a more in-group/out-group mentality. So it is common for people to not think about different perspectives until they are personally affected. My favorite example of this is some article I read where a researcher ran small group surveys and asked people’s thoughts on trans people, and some of the responses were super specific like “trans people wear a lot of green,” or “trans people like bread.” And it was due to Jan from accounting or whatever being the only trans person they knew. So a single encounter shifts their whole perception and biases. There are a lot of people who grow up surrounded by people like them and have never had the need to see things from someone else’s perspective who is different from them.

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    1 month ago

    Their fantasy is not about justice for women but justice for their stuff being taken. Raping someone else’s kids does not invoke the same emotion, in fact they might be cheering it if the kids in question are from a different social group.

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    1 month ago

    Most MAGA men are cowards. Buy a dozen guns, make threats, but when push comes to shove…they stay in their chair and flip on right wing media. They are nothing.

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    I don’t think this is the general consensus at all. The whole Epstein thing really ripped the MAGA tribe in half. There’s a lot of people over there that are upset about it.

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      1 month ago

      I’d say it’s 40/60 with 40 opposed and 60 excusing it. But that’s still a chunk.

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        I’d say it can range from your 40/60 to 60/40 depending on the area. Where I live and with the people I know, there are a lot of libertarian leaning people (they say they’re conservative but they just aren’t) and they reeeeaaaallllllyyyyy don’t like Trump now. Then there’s the people that are “Red or Dead”. Those are the ones that match the online descriptions

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    The reason seems rather to be that these people are deliberately and very demonstratively protecting their own underage daughter because they are fully aware of what their peers have in mind for her.

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    Because to them it’s only an issue if it affects them personally. If it’s someone else’s kids, they don’t care.

    Most conservative double-think like this boils down to a lack of empathy.

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      I’d also argue that it isn’t really about the daughters for some of these men. They rather fantasize about being in a situation where it is socially acceptable to use violence, because they want to use violence. They want to be the hero, which requires a crisis.

      They might still not be in favor of pedophiles running around freely, all things considered, but they’re certainly not going to be as strongly opposed to it as their violent fantasies might make you believe.

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      To expand on “it’s only an issue when it happens to them”, having been raised in a very conservative environment I was told that bad things happened to bad people, and that if something happened to a “good” person, there was probably something we just didn’t know about. That thinking offers a false sense of security because as long as you’re not a bad person, bad things can’t happen to you.

      It usually takes something bad actually happening to you to break the illusion and get someone to actually start questioning their world, which is hard work. Life is so much easier to live with your head in the sand.

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      I have the feeling americans have low empathy, at least it shows in shows, films, tv, reporters, successful musicians (except DP), politiciabs (they don’t even fake it) … Basically every aspect of the usa culture.

      Is this true or is it cliché?

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    No one lets their friends use PDF’s.

    Use an old word format if you have to share, but never a PDF.

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    1 month ago

    ✅ Don’t have a daughter.
    ✅ Don’t have a truck.
    ✅ Didn’t vote for Trump.

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    Honestly this type of mental disconnect is absolutely a thing and it baffles me to no end. These guys are just cosplayering a parody of the “manly man”.