cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/47972724

i encountered this for the first time today while attempting to read something on archive.today.

i confirmed that decoding the qrcode using a computer and following the URL it contains is insufficient; the error it gave directed me here which is what the linked screenshot is of.

the old type of captcha remains available too, for now:

screenshot of text: Important: Mobile verification for Google Cloud Fraud Defense is an experimental challenge type in Preview. Visual and audio challenges are available as alternatives for users who can't complete mobile verification. To use them, click the Visual  or Audio  buttons.

  • Zerush@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    A good way to force the user to use by Google controlled devices and to download Google services for more control by Google. Also a good way that the user show the middle finger to Google, using alternatives.

  • Chulk@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Who owns the implementation of this? Is this something that websites opt into and add to their own site? Or is this something that Google injects when you’re clicking a search result on Google?

    • Arthur Besse@lemmy.mlOP
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      2 months ago

      Is this something that websites opt into and add to their own site?

      Yes.

      reCAPTCHA is google’s “anti-abuse” service which many websites use to prevent slightly increase the cost of operating automated crawlers (which somewhat ironically google operates one of the largest of itself, for their search engine).

      Before neural networks could solve CAPTCHAs reliably, spammers were solving them with human labor; solving services like anti-captcha.com (intentionally not a clickable link…) today use a mixture of automated and human solvers.

      In the future google is apparently building, solving services will need farms of able-to-run-a-recent-android-release mobile devices with some kind of trusted computing hardware, each one of which they’ll have to use sparingly enough to keep usage of its unique ID under some plausibly-human threshold.

      And even if you do have a phone and are willing to identify yourself with it, if it is too old to run a recent enough Android you also will sometimes be denied services for being unable to pass a robots’ “human” test.

      🤮

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      2 months ago

      So those humans will go buy the cheapest they can find which is, surprise, Android + Google Play Services.

      • Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.ca
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        2 months ago

        No. More likely those people just won’t visit that website and will very easily get the information that they were looking for from the next link down on the search results.

        Google are fucking idiots if they think otherwise.

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          the next link down on the search results

          Assuming we’ll have that at all or just AI summaries replacing the results.

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      Yup, and they are being cut out of society everyday. Just losing your phone or even breaking it can be a figurative death sentence. Want to check your email from another device? Did you set up 2 factor with your phone?

      Yeah sorry, can’t access your email.

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        I’m at the point where I’m fine with it. If you want to cut me out for such a silly reason, I don’t want to be included in your dumb thing. I’ll find an alternative that treats me with respect.

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    2 months ago

    Oh boy! Another way to fingerprint your devices! Scammer are sleeping good tonight with these new verifications

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    Everyone needs to fail the test over and over again until they fall back to their non-we want to fuck everyone over even more world.

    • unfinished | 🇵🇸@lemmy.ml
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      It is a paywall, you just pay with your data. Except Google gets the revenue and not the website so maybe a second paywall will be “necessary”

      • traceur402@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Not if this abuse finally succeeds in driving away other peoples’ customers. Captcha losing people money makes captcha go bye bye

        • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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          i have a feeling normies will begrundingly accept it, and retroactively justify it with some security bullshit google puts out.

    • Arthur Besse@lemmy.mlOP
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      The visual option is the normal reCAPTCHA (eg) and the audio option is the (quite difficult) thing they’ve been subjecting blind people to for years. Presumably they will keep offering desktop users these options (at least in many/most cases) for a long time still; this new phone-required extra-invasive CAPTCHA is just a hint of where they’re heading. (But already it is apparently actually required for Android users in some cases: https://reclaimthenet.org/google-broke-recaptcha-for-de-googled-android-users …)

      • adarza@lemmy.ca
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        2 months ago

        if the old ways are still available, the bad guys can use 'em too… so this new thing is just to get people ‘used to’ the idea of an anal probe for verification before actually forcing it on everyone.

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    2 months ago

    This is going to work just amazingly well with AI moderation, faceborg style.