If you can’t safely take the Cybertruck to a car wash, I wonder how it will fare as a boat?

  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 month ago

    … Elon said he was gonna put monopropellant / cold gas thrusters from the Dragon capsule into the Roadster, at one point.

    https://www.maxim.com/rides/elon-musk-says-new-tesla-roadster-will-actually-fly-and-hit-60-mph-in-under-1-second/

    Musk said the production version will be revealed later this year ahead of the start of production in 2025 and that it will have the previously announced SpaceX package, which will use cold gas thrusters to help the car accelerate and also “fly”— or hover for short distances.

    “I think it has a shot at being the most mind-blowing product demo of all time,” Musk said.

    Its almost like this guy just fucking says shit, snd idiots believe him, for some reason, even though he’s got a well established track record of lying about things that make basically no sense to lie about…

    “I’m a world class Diablo player.”

    … as well as an entire solid decade of making grandiose business / product promises, and then delivering basically 1% of what he promised.

    AutoPilot/Full Self Drive is totally real guys, it’ll be perfect in a year or two… for a fucking decade.

    Dude’s blown up or otherwise destroyed almost as many heavy lift launch vehicles as the entire Apollo program, and so far hasn’t even achieved orbit, much less with a payload, muchless tested the orbital refueling that his entire Starship system totally fails without.

    Remember how we were gonna have rockets replace private jets?

    Remember how the Boring company was gonna pay for itself by selling the dirt it dug up as bricks?

    How’s Hyperloop doing these days?

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      Isn’t 0 to 60mph in 1 sec equivalent to ~2.7g

      Kind of dangerous considering Saturn V reached a maximum of 4g during its first stage burn

      Do people really believe this shit?

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        Yeah, that is a particularly funny aspect of the whole point to point rocket thing.

        It would only even theoretically be safe for basically trained military pilots and astronauts.

        You shove a bunch of random rich assholes onto one?

        Heart attacks galore, basically.

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      Aside from every other stupid aspect of such a stupid idea, I’m curious where he thought people were going to be able to get hydrazine to refuel the thruster.

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        Oh god that hadn’t even occured to me.

        Yeah… yeah.

        I dunno, send it back to the dealer, have them do it lol?

        I’m sure car mechanics will just be a-ok with handling hydrazine, rofl!

        I can’t even find barely any independent mechanic that’ll touch a gas-electric hybrid, they’re too ‘complicated’, apparently.

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        Wheres’s that China vs US/California mass transit system map, change over last last two decades, map/meme thingy mabob when you need it…

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      The rockets exploding is differen than the rest. It’s literally rocket science and blowing up a bunch of test vehicles is kinda par for the course, and SpaceX has actually been pretty sucessful overall.

      But that has zero to do with Musk.

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        Uh, no.

        No rocket development program since the 1970s has blown up or lost as many rockets as Starship/HeavyBooster’s development cycle has, proportional to how many rockets they built, flights they attempted.

        And the entire fundamental design concept to be reliant on mass orbital fuel transfer, which has never been done, and will require a hell of a lot more development than drawings on napkins and CG renders… that’s Elon’s idea.

        How many rockets has BlueOrigin lost?

        Elon spent decades telling people he is an engineer.

        When he roleplays as one, billions of dollars go up in smoke.

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    I live on a fairly-well-to-do island off the southern coast of Korea with a lot of battery powered vehicles. Our first Cybertruck appeared recently. It’s all downhill from here.

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    There’s something tragic about Cybertruck owners, and it’s nothing to do with Elon.

    They seem to be wildly impressed by their vehicle doing the most mediocre things that any AWD vehicle can do.

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      things that any AWD vehicle can do.

      Not any AWD; you probably want high ground clearance too.

      I wouldn’t go fording streams in a Subaru Impreza, for instance.

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        I don’t know about an Impreza, but I know my '07 Audi A6 Allroad could easily take on this level of water. I’m fairly sure that a Subaru Outback could as well, they tend to be about the same height (US spec ones are even higher I believe - I owned one, it was about 2 cm taller than any EUDM ones of the same generation I’ve seen)

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          What I had in my head was something like this, a street-tuner Impreza that’s been lowered:

          The point was that just because something’s AWD doesn’t inherently mean by itself that it’s a good idea to take it off-road.

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          Nah. The Impreza doesn’t even have a weird roller top for its cargo bed, let alone a fragile and poorly-designed one. No way it could break as stupidly as the Cybertruck managed.

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      They’re just coping with the fact they spent 6 figures on this giant piece of shit so they convince themselves their investment was worth it because truck go brrr

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        Yeah, at this point they know they got conned, and they either have to admit that or double down and act wildly impressed at its ability to, like, drive on an unpaved road.

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          I read a while back that many of them were shocked the cyber truck didn’t fit in regular parking spaces. In other words, these are people that, for the most part, have never owned a large pickup before. The obvious conclusion is that they bought it for cred or because they think it looks cool, not because they actually need a vehicle that size.

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              I do, but I know you’re just trying to gatekeep.

              Well, not a boat, a 30’ Airstream. And I haul a ton of pellets several times each year. I also find myself moving heavy or large items throughout the year with it. No, you can’t really rent one to do those things like everyone claims - or the rentals would cost as much as owning the pickup would.

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              majority of them dont haul construciton/cargo equipment of any kind, a small dick compensator. i only ever seen the smaller trucks do that, the biggers likely dont have the space for it. i have nearby neighbor who has a big almost lifted green truck, yea you arnt hauling any materials that i ever seen you do, plus your “wife” is a soccer mom karen who bought a tesla.

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              Yes, yes we do. I own a 24,000lbs tandem trailer that I haul large stuff heavy stuff with at times. Sometimes 300 miles one way. I have a good reason to own a pickup truck that says Hemi on the side…

              Those swave and deboner urbane urbanites seldom have an actual use for a pickup truck. But there are places where the trucks wear the scratches and dents of their hard use proudly.

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              I’m not in the US, but everyone I know who has that type of vehicle is an outdoorsy type, who wants a vehicle with lots of cargo space, high ground clearance, and often towing capacity. Having the cargo area separate from the passenger cabin is also useful for carrying wet, smelly or dirty stuff.

              They usually have a canopy on the vehicle as well.

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                Same here. Those cars are so expensive to own, that you don’t ever even think of getting one unless you really really need it for a specific purpose. However, I’ve heard that Americans don’t think that way.

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                In the US, actually using them for cargo or towing would put you in a small minority. The last research I saw said towing is only done by 10% of owners a year.

                I haven’t seen the stats on cargo in the bed, but I imagine it’s MUCH lower since most of these trucks are expensive and shiny. The last time I tossed a bunch of furniture in the bed the person I was buying it from was worried I’d scratch the paint in the bed.

                Truck fans in the US are weird and so common now that they look at you strange if you want to use it for actual truck stuff.

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                  ive seen the smallers one haul construction materials never the bloated giant ones that conservatives love to lift the trucks.

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                  😃 Worried about scratching the print job? Tell that to the shovels, hammers, cables and other random work stuff I threw in there. Oh wait, some people don’t use a truck like a tool.

                  I wonder if it would be cool to own an excavator and never dig anything with it. At least the bucket would stay yellow.

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            I mean, I don’t think a lot of pickup drivers are aware of the fact that their giant ass truck doesn’t fit in a regular parking space

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            That’s a common theme, yes. They’ve clearly never owned a pickup truck, and don’t realise what they have is actually pretty bad by pickup truck standards.

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          Saw a YouTube video of a guy thoroughly impressed with the glue they use to put cyber trucks together. Glue

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      They think every electric vehicle up to now was a G-wiz or golf cart. Slow, and beta. Finally, theres an electric truck for ALPHAS like me

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      I’ve probably done more work, driven more off road, been through more serious terain using a 2 door fwd hatchback and a trailer made with a 70s civic axle than the entirety of cybertruck owners combined.

      That said I wonder what percentage of cucktruck owners could put tire chains on in less than a hour without the help of AI. I’m guessing <1%.

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      They absolutely can’t do the things other AWD vehicles can do, though. They get shown up regularly by cars that cost under 20k.

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      I must be at another level of cynicism than you, because I want to replace ‘tragic’ with ‘uproariously hilarious’.

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      A cyber truck does not actually qualify as a truck. Their owners do, on the other hand, qualify as complete douche canoes.

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        Most pickup trucks in the US aren’t used as trucks, nor used off road. They are status symbols. The Cybertruck fits right into this category. It’s shiny and stands out of the crowd.

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      I think that’s the thing with cyber truck owners. They have the worst car imaginable, but it goes fast when they hit the accelerator and the sound system is excellent. Therefore it’s the best car ever.

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    I feel like I need video of this incEl Camino self destruction in my life. Anybody have a link?

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    The vehicle is only for showing off and definitely not designed for real off-road use, but the driver caused most of the water damage by entering the flood at such high speed. You’re not supposed to wade at 20 mph unless you’re in a hovercraft

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    in the west coast its almost always ASIANS driving it, i suspect alot of asian upper middle class are super ignorant about politics and elon.

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      A lot of Asians people are racist against non-white people and Asians of other countries. There are Pro-Trump Asians just as there are Pro-Trump Latinos who think they’re “one of the good ones” and all about pulling up the ladder behind them. The people buying cybertrucks at best don’t care and at worst are positively for it.

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          I know you didn’t say they are (can be) racist, I am. I’m disagreeing that they are uninformed; a lot of Asians actively side with Trump and Musk. I know this because I am Asian myself and hear it from my parents and their friends who are Pro-Trump, anti-immigration, and racist against Black people, Hispanic people, Brown people, Muslims, LGBT people…

          My dad defends every accusation against Trump. He thinks every bad thing said about him is a lie made up by his enemies. My mom’s best friend loves him and says he’s so smart, and everyone who disagrees with him is too stupid to understand.

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    The only “question” is why would you believe what Elon “promised” at any point?

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      Teslas can jump or maybe “fly” a short distance by 2016 according to Elon Musk. And no one is like: that boy might me lying

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    Finally, the one thing missing from our modern day sci-fi Star Trek future was a Self Destruct built in to all our vehicles!

    💥😎💥