It seriously gets worse the more you read and hear about their “verification system”.
“We have determined based on the shape of your nose that you are Jewish. Please follow us to the nearest train.”
“We have determined based on the shape of your nose that you are not Jewish. Please follow us to the nearest train.”
what if i AI generate a face and give it to Persona :ahahah:
We should all just take pics of our taint and send that in. Malicious compliance.
They’ll just forward the data to the butthole database; we still lose ✨
Playing the entire Bee movie to reporting hotlines for ICE worked for a bit. Let’s kick it up a notch.
Off to take some photos of bee taints, I guess
Just use goatse
I thought discord moved to k-id and ditched this system?
It did, the dateline in this article is from February 19th.
Why can’t people just go down to their local shop, show their ID like when you buy alcohol, and buy some kind of age verification token/code which can be used with online services?
They very literally could not possibly care about protecting children less. They just want as much of your data as possible so they can neutralize you if you ever become a problem to them.
my id has an nfc chip built in, I can scan it with my phone to confirm my identity. if only online services could implement an identity check that way.
My point wasn’t one of convenience, but more one of privacy. What’s the difference between someone demanding a photo of your ID (and then storing it) and someone taking the same information from an NFC scan and then storing it?
I don’t know about other countries, but the german e-ID for example is more sophisticated than that. It can actually limit access to the information that is necessary for the given application (your terminal or app shows you what specific information is requested before you confirm via PIN). So it can just return “yes/no” to the question “is this person an adult?” Almost no company uses it, likely because they can’t steal data that way.
if only online services could implement an identity check that way.
Outside of banking and taxes, I can’t think of a single online service that I want verifying my identity. Ostensibly, these services just want to verify if you’re of legal age. The small, binary question of “Are you over 18?” should require much less private data than would be needed to verify my identity.
They can! In fact, in the UK some government services do this already however there’s a couple of drawbacks:
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They’d need to use some kind of companion app for each device since the web APIs won’t give them access to this.
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For us at least the NFC chip still contains a digital copy of the photo so it’s not really any better since I don’t know what data is going to be sent by the app.
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Cause the goal has never been to prevent underage access it’s to create a database of troublemakers and brown people
because that would be sensible and privacy-friendly, and our governments are controlled by fascist pieces of shit that want to have full control over us.
Robinhood also uses Persona and may not allow you to transfer money out without providing ID and face scans.
Not sure why anyone would still be using Robinhood after that GME debacle, but if they are, this is a good reason to stop.
Just deleted my Discord account. It wasn’t an issue since I have no friends and never use it but still… it’s the principle of the thing?
Don’t let others downplay the “quality” of your protest. “It doesn’t really matter, does it?” is the #1 enemy of protests.
True.
I deleted reddit, for that matter, and working on degoogling, which is a really hard one.
At this point, it’s not really protest. It’s just that, despite being crazy lazy, there are no more excuses. This government actually is hunting down people who dissent online. No more talk of conspiracy theories. The facts are in.
Jfc, I mean I was guessing that something like this was going on behind the scenes. But I guess it’s reassuring to see it out in the open.
What’s next, some kind of psychological profile based on the bumps and grooves of my skull?
Godamn will y’all stop writing their next steps out for them to create the newest dystopian hellhole update
I see that your profile indicates some reservations about synergizing with the Torment Nexus but have you considered the value it brings to the shareholders?
Must collect .00000001% more dollars per unit, it’s only billions of lives after all
Urge to maximize paperclips rising…
What’s next is that they are going to guilt you in to accepting it because it’s “to save kids from pedophiles and if you don’t fork over your ID, you’re either helping pedophiles or you are a pedophile yourself.”
And it’s going to work. You’re going to go along with it.
Reddit implemented this for brits months ago and there has been no mass exodus. They all forked over their IDs to save the kids. They’re probably all stuck on Discord too assuming everyone who’s leaving is a pedophile. Once KOSA and EARN IT pass here in the US, we also will go along with it, to stop the pedophiles.
“Won’t somebody think of the children?”
To verify that you are permitted to use our platform, please answer the following prompt: You’re in a desert walking along in the sand, when all of a sudden you look down and see a tortoise…
What one? What desert?
Do I know the tortoise?
Does it owe me money?
Will they even bother trying to rebrand this or just pretend it doesn’t exist?
Discord stated that it will not be proceeding with Persona for identity verification.
And will not be implementing age restrictions, for now. Key point is t the end.
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Aye, I pointed out for now they’re not doing it. They’ll do it again eventually.
The government has the names of prolific pedophiles and all they do is protect these rich and powerful child abusers.
Any claims that they’re doing stuff like this to protect kids is complete bullshit.
Well, now I see why there was an avoid OpenAI movement. They actually allowed Persona to create an internal database of their users and may be a potential AI provider for gov surveillance.
Since when did OpenAI started using Persona, and is it widely known that they use it ? Does anybody know? I used their service way back at gpt 3.5 days, back then you didn’t need any verification.
This is all very bad. But, much like with the tools used during the War on Terror to track “potential terrorists”, I suspect this system has a problem of excessive false positives and false correlations.
Historically, the response to this kind of data sweep was not to target people based on the information but to justify targeting of people after the fact. Also, the FBI made a habit of setting out honeypots for (typically mentally ill or extremely naive) would-be radicals or even radicalization programs intended to foment prosecutable misconduct where none had existed.
Case in point, the Newburgh Four
In 2008, FBI-paid informant Shahed Hussain met James Cromitie in the parking lot of a mosque in Newburgh, New York, a town with a high poverty rate and large Muslim community. (Cromitie was not part of the compassionate release request that has set the other three free.) Hussain befriended Cromitie, a down and out petty drug dealer. Hussain claims to have told Cromitie that he was a member of a terrorist organization in Pakistan, which Cromitie allegedly expressed interest in joining. In subsequent recorded conversations, Cromitie made hateful antisemitic remarks, but according to evidence presented during the trial in 2011, when Hussain encouraged him to “make a plan, pick a target, find recruits, . . . procure guns, and conduct surveillance,” Cromitie did nothing. Hussain sought to motivate Cromitie by assuring him he would be rewarded in the afterlife for a jihadist attack, to no avail.
Hussain began offering more significant financial incentives for executing an attack, including promising Cromitie a BMW and cash, but Cromitie remained uninspired, taking no action to develop an attack plan. Even FBI agents thought that Cromitie was “unlikely to commit an act without the support of the FBI source.” Hussain’s enticements became more extravagant, including offering to pay Cromitie $250,000, an unauthorized inducement the FBI captured on a wiretap. Apparently tempted by the big payoff, Cromitie accompanied Hussian to scope out a potential target, but thereafter avoided Hussain and his persistent attempts to resume contact.
Cromitie avoided Hussain for almost two months. After losing his job and desperate for money, he reinitiated contact with Hussain and agreed to plot an attack. At Hussain’s urging, Cromitie recruited other Muslim men, David Williams, Onta Williams (no relation), and Laguerre Payen, to serve as lookouts. Like Cromitie, they too were impoverished with histories of petty drug crimes and mental illness. With the four men along for the ride, the informant Hussain pushed the scheme forward, selecting a synagogue and U.S. Air Force base as targets and driving the defendants across state lines (to ensure federal jurisdiction) to pick up mock weapons arranged by the FBI.
If these programs are allowed to run their course, I suspect we’ll see similar stories springing up as less ideologically motivated judges recoil at investigations and prosecutions where the crimes themselves are entirely orchestrated by the investigating agencies.
“This person looks like they might commit a crime in the future. You guys should go arrest him before that happens so we can ‘zero out crime’ in our neighborhoods.”
The neighborhoods where crime has been ‘zeroed-out’:
Literally that one episode of Futurama
Literally the movie Minority Report
Precogs are machines in our version.
Also plot of Psycho pass… Spoiler it didn’t eliminate crime…
Someone is disagreeing with the Sybil System? Let’s have your criminality coefficient checked.
