Like was it a meaningful debate or a flat out flame war? And what was the main theme you were arguing over?

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Human inequality and the horrors of capitalism, also, who was better, Ren or Stimpy.

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    Across many platforms, I’ve gotten the most vitriol and heated discussion about pit bulls. It’s a topic that has gotten me nastier responses than politics or other hot button issues.

    It’s really frustrating. I have many years of experience in rescue, shelters, veterinary medicine, and more. I’ve worked with more of these dogs over the years than I can count. I’ve also worked alongside people with much more experience than me, and I have yet to meet a single person in animal welfare that views pit bull type dogs as broadly dangerous or difficult to work with. I’m sure those people are out there, but it’s not a common view.

    You can discuss the wide variety of factors that lead to this sweeping characterization of bullies, ask people to talk with animal professionals in their lives about their experiences, and encourage them to volunteer to get actual experience with these dogs. It doesn’t matter or seem to nudge them into considering anything other than these dogs being ticking time bombs.

    I’m not saying everyone should own pitties. Spreading misinformation and continuing to demonize pit bull types can influence other people who could be a perfect home for these dogs to never consider them, though. So many dogs with wonderful temperaments are euthanized and never even given a chance just because of how they look. It’s really disheartening.

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      Cannot speak for pure breed pits, but I have not had many major issues I couldn’t handle with my brothers pit mixes. Most problem I have ever had is their leash aggression and how one of them really doesn’t like kids petting him. Otherwise, yeah, I don’t have any major problems with pit bulls personally.

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    3 months ago

    The difference between socialism and social democracy and how most people actually advocate for the latter rather than the former due to a fundamental misunderstanding of what the definitions of those two things are.

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    People that believe all that ghost shit on YouTube is real. It’s basically boomers and religious tards with a 3rd grade education that don’t understand how easy it is to edit video for the average person. They all comment “May Christ protect you” and other crap like that. While these people pump out an episode every week like clock work where they’re possessed, attacked, or some other BS. Best part is when they go “we almost died” over and over, because name one person on a paranormal investigation that died that isn’t an obvious natural cause.

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    responding to people the youtube sub how they are supporting youtubes algorithim and slop by watching it and logging in, and they were complaining about youtubers that are producing slop. i was telling them how you cant complain about people like mr beast and defend him at the same time.

    and saying how right wing content gets through the feed if you are not logged in, and i wasnt going to give google more data by logging in just to curate the feed.

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    3 months ago

    Meaningful never, I liked suggesting junk food/sugary drinks should be treated exactly like Cigarettes on reddit which is mostly American and watching the sparks fly.

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    3 months ago

    that voting blue no matter who is bullshit.

    and before anyone comes to argue otherwise, that you MUST vote blue on the election or else you vote for the other side, i bid you a ‘jog on’. ESPECIALLY since you have to answer for the continuing campaign of the democratic party against their progressive candidates.

    vote blue no matter who my ass. you either have a person i would eagerly vote for or i will find someone else. it is your fault we have these republicans painted blue arguing for policies slightly left of hitler.

    don’t let perfect be the enemy of good, is horse shit when good is enriching and empowering corporations, and genocide.

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    I would say it’s mostly topics I’m not actually arguing about.

    I tend to point out false statements or false assumptions. I do it regardless of the topic or my position on an issue, but usually it’s taken as general opposition to whatever the person was saying. So they call me a shill or demand that I prove a ridiculous point of view they imagine I must hold. It’s like only The Enemy is expected to care about the accuracy of what The Right Side says.

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      I always hate when someone I agree with makes a stupid argument. Then if I point out their bad argument, I look like I’m arguing the other side

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        i hate it when someone argues with me by telling me i made a stupid argument by making a stupid argument.

        usually my falsely attributing a fallacy to me, which they themselves perform in their counter-argument.

        and then they basically go ‘no, you were illogical first, if you don’t admit it you are stupid and I am smart’.

        OK, really big-brained logic there.

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    I used to go out of my way to argue with people on Facebook about vaccines and about representation of minorities in media. I liked to yell at antivaxxers and bigots

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    People on social media get irrationally angry when I point out that all science confirms that physical punishment of children for the purpose of behavior change or discipline is a net negative. For both the development of the child and also society as a whole. And as such, any corporeal punishment of children should be considered assault and child abuse. People will desperately defend their right to exert violence on their own children.

    • TheOrcWhoWrites@lemmy.worldOP
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      3 months ago

      What!? Really!? That’s insane. It’s the whole boomer generation for ya. Millennial and even Gen Z are now having kids and most I talk to are completely against hitting their children. It’s definitely boomers and Gen x (maybe Gen x) .

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        No, not a generational thing. Everyone, including millennials and Gen Z. It’s more related to familial trauma. Those who lived through a violent childhood are the ones most likely to defend violence against children. They almost always use the old “I turned out fine, it made me a better person because I was a naughty child. So I will do the same.” It’s like survivors of hazing trying to rationalize hazing others in turn.

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    3 months ago

    I honestly don’t remember. I generally end convos if they are not being productive or have the chance of being productive.

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    i don’t take a lot of hard stances on things so people online love to paint me as the villain their their dramatic ‘you have to pick a side’ way of viewing the world.

    and when i do take hard stances, like say, personal choice and accountability/responsibility, that basically gets me labeled a fascist, at least, the past few years. apparently the notion folks are responsible for themselves is part of the fascist agenda, or something.

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    I recently had a discussion about the bible with someone who actually took the book literally. At least the bits he considered “good”.

    He did not even understand simple concepts like “John the Apostle” is neither “John the Evangelist” nor “Apocalyse Fever Dream John”.

    • TheOrcWhoWrites@lemmy.worldOP
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      I am a fairly new Christian so I cannot relate. I know who John the apostle is but I don’t know about the evangelist or apocalypse fever dream John lol. Never heard those terms. I’ve been reading the Bible consistently for about a year. I still have a lot to learn in order to properly debate anything about it. For some reason I worked backwards. I read revelations first and tried to make sense of it by them reading the gospel and parts of the old testament. I still skip around but never do I take the Bible literally. I mean some commands are straight forward but I cannot wrap my head around the fact that Job was just whipped out of nowhere by the devil and it doesn’t show him like freaking out because the devil either showed up or was whipping him somehow from the spirit world. It was the first book I really connected with.

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    That historical events can be approached and assessed without contemporary extrapolations. But to boil down years of internets, including old ezboard forums, I’d say it’s been over the Clean Wehrmacht theory/myth.

    I used to be really into WW2 history communities and I would routinely approach things objectively and piss a bunch of nerds off who pervert history and just want to obsess over how Hitler could’ve won.

    So I have argued far too much with people who hate Hitler just because he lost the war to Stalin. Like, primary sources would mean nothing. I’d have correspondence transcripts from commanders and diplomats, and they’d have their latest Hearts of Iron game run.

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      those folks aren’t interested in history, they are interested in fantasy.

      for a lot of folks, that’s all history is, or why it’s fun, it’s the fantasizing about it. It’s not the boring staid work of a true historian who is looking at boring crap like cargo manifests to piece together the reality of history.

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    If lemmy counts as social media in the context of this question: In one direction it was meaningful, but all I got back was flaming and brigading. But I’m sure they are convinced I have it the wrong way around. I was calling out a tankie for being objectively wrong in their statements, and that their defense of stal8nism was stupid.

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        I think as many people as possible should be as well off as possible, with as much freedom as possible, at the expense of as few as possible. I dare you to challenge this standpoint. Sure, how we weigh and balance each of those is up for debate (A debate I am sure neither of us are interested in participating in), but as an outline, I find that only weirdos object to the premise as a whole.