• BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com
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    25 days ago

    Please, pretty please, be the spark that will stop OSS projects from hosting their “support forums” on Discord.

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      25 days ago

      I wish it was only limited to support forums. I’ve even seen a Linux kernel driver where the Issues sections was closed and you should go to Discord instead. No thanks.

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        25 days ago

        It’s horrible. We already had that stuff figured out. Wiki pages and forums to make information accessible even after 20 minutes have passed. Fuck that development and everyone that was/is pushing for that.

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      25 days ago

      It’s too bad the open source community couldn’t find some programmers to help them make an alternative.

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        24 days ago

        As long as the alternative is not another chat app that is not indexable by search engines. Forums fill the role pretty well, I don’t understand why devs would use Discord in the first place.

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            24 days ago

            As someone who has spent the last 2+ years testing revolt/stoat, matrix with element, and teamspeak, desperately searching for any viable discord alternative, I’m very interested in this. Where did you come across it? I tried to create an account but stuck pulsing on a loading screen.

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    24 days ago

    Americans- If you’re thinking “this isn’t so bad” please consider that all it takes is a teeny tiny, insignificant api added to the back end with absolutely no notice to users and suddenly the DHS has a database of dissenters, with cross-referenced IDs, photos of faces, chat history, link share history, raw uploaded photos, and approximate locations.

    Say no to this. If you need a temporary alternative that’s quick to get going, create a signal group chat with your friends.

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      24 days ago

      ☝️🤓 Discord said they’re going to delete the data!

      Buster from Arthur saying "You really think someone would do that, just go on the Internet and tell lies?

      note

      The “someone” is referring to Discord, not you.

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        24 days ago

        I dig your Netscape avatar

        Discord said they’re going to delete the data!

        Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining

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          24 days ago

          That joke is NSFW, please present facial verification and ID now or you will be banned and reported to the authorities!

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    The EU has apparently decided that this has to be done for most public platforms by July 2026, so Discord may not have much of a choice and other platforms will likely follow: (Edit: I forgot, the EU strict age verification stuff seems to be limited to EU DSA’s definition of “platforms” so as a text messenger I’m not sure Discord is part of it. But this’ll still likely be coming to more services near you and perhaps Discord is just voluntarily joining the chaos…)

    I could be wrong I’m not a lawyer, assume everything I write from here is bullshit, but see here:

    https://www.mlex.com/mlex/articles/2368265/online-services-get-up-to-12-months-to-apply-age-verification-eu-guidelines-say “Online services get up to 12 months to apply age verification, EU guidelines say” This was in July 2025.

    EU guidelines in question seem to be:

    1. https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/library/commission-publishes-guidelines-protection-minors and

    2. https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/dae/redirection/document/118226

    Quotes:

    “[…] the Union legislature enacted Article 28 of Regulation (EU) 2022/2065 of the European Parliament and the Council (6). Paragraph 1 of this provision obliges providers of online platforms […] to ensure a high level of privacy, safety, and security of minors, […]”

    “Self-declaration is not considered to be an appropriate age-assurance measure as further explained below.”

    “In the following circumstances, […] the Commission considers the use of access restrictions supported by age verification methods an appropriate and proportionate measure to ensure a high level of privacy, safety, and security of minors: […] an online platform accessible to minors has identified risks to minors’ privacy, safety, or security, including content, conduct and consumer risks as well as contact risks (e.g., arising from features such as live chat, image/video sharing, anonymous messaging)”

    “Age estimation methods can complement age verification technologies and can be used in addition to the former,” (AKA the alternative to a literal gov ID check seems to be big data AI sucking up all user data to estimate user age.)

    The in my opinion horrible solution the EU seems to have found to avoid sharing the physical ID for services that don’t want to request one, is apparently this app: https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui Which from what I can tell

    1. The EU app seems to require Google device attestation so all custom ROMs are out and to be a citizen you can apparently no longer own your device,

    2. Unless you use iOS or Android you’re apparently not a citizen,

    3. Once everyone is used to using some citizen app like that, I feel like a fascist government could easily tie it to a social score or other authoritarian measures bewyond the age verification.

    4. There is a privacy friendly alternative approach anyway, that most governments seem to conveniently be ignoring:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/13/california-law-online-age-checks-00606115 (I think Germany may already ask something like this of the more popular preinstalled operating systems, but I could be wrong.)

    Anyway, I’m not a lawyer and this isn’t legal advice. But spread the word, somehow press seems to be ignoring this.

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      24 days ago

      Hi, it’s me your lawyer!

      Here’s some legal advice for you: delete Discord, hit the gym, lawyer up.

      This has been official legal advice from me, your official lawyer.

      Peace!

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    24 days ago

    Hear me out. Maybe, if you are a parent, its your duty to keep an eye on your child, and exert some control over the spaces and people they interact with?

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      24 days ago

      This is a free to use platform, just saying:

      Meet Pavel Durov, the tech billionaire who founded Telegram

      Pavel Durov was born in St. Petersburg in Soviet Russia.

      The tech entrepreneur cofounded the encrypted messaging service Telegram with his brother Nikolai in 2013. The brothers were born into a family of intellectuals, according to a biography on the Digital-Life-Design Conference website. Durov spoke at the conference in January 2012.

      Durov is now worth $17.1 billion, according to Forbes. Much of his fortune comes from Telegram, which he said hit 1 billion users in March 2025.

      https://www.businessinsider.com/pavel-durov-telegram-billionaire-russia-instagram-wealth-founder-dubai-lifestyle-2022-3?op=1

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          24 days ago

          So what if you get banned? There are all those others you can struggle with if that happens. None of the others listed match the security featureset and ease of use of Telegram.

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    25 days ago

    “I categorically cannot trust tech companies with that kind of personal data,” wrote one frustrated user, with many hoping they might be able to convince Discord to do a U-turn with enough public pressure. Others went further. “What a great way to kill your community,” added another longtime user, while some predicted “that’s game over for Discord” and remarked ruefully that “privacy on the internet is truly dead”.

    LOL. Just like Netflix price increases, or reddit third party apps thing, the protest will barely register in usage metrics and discord will carry on.

    These companies have effectively infinite resources with which to test changes with user reference groups, model potential outcomes, and mitigate risks. It’s pure hubris to suggest that you have a better understanding of Discord’s user base than they do.

    The vaaast majority of users will just do the video age test and never think about it again.

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      Man 100%. Every now and then you hear that Facebook is “hemorrhaging users” or “it’s all over” but most normal people just don’t give a fuck and use it because they’re already there and their friends are too. This’ll be no different.

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        24 days ago

        hmm idk, i only know like 2 people in my life that still use Facebook heavily. i know it’s different in India though.

        Facebook has seen stagnation or user drops in most mature markets, it’s still growing in growing markets. India especially represents like half of all Facebook now.

        no idea where you might be from, but this is not a globally universal issue. this will likely play out differently in different markets.

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          24 days ago

          That’s a real good point. Here in the UK I’m the only one out of my friends group who doesn’t use it. Here’s me also jumping to conclusions that it’s the same everywhere !

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    24 days ago

    Good.

    Discord is overused for help forums and wikis, which makes them extremely difficult to search and dependent upon third party software to be maintained. I hope this will force people away from that behaviour and back to good old fashioned messageboards that have been working just fine since at least the 80s

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      24 days ago

      Wait 6 months, this will have changed nothing for Discord and they’ll carry on. Most likely in 2-3 years they’ll deploy the age verify for all users, not just users trying to access “adult” stuff.