I actively avoid using coffee shops to take calls, but sometimes it’s the only place with wifi and power. I do try my best to keep my conversation at a level that is equal to others at the coffee shop. It’s really unavoidable sometimes.
Sorry, couple of times it’s just been unavoidable. I do avoid it as much as possible, but I have a bus transfer that sometimes takes 45 minutes and there’s a coffee shop. The last one my boss’ boss wanted a sudden meeting, and well, it happened.
That’s when you hold the phone to your face - like a phone - so you can talk at a normal volume and hear people really well.
phones were designed to be used, well, like phones. People holding them like a slice of pizza and shouting into them like some narcissist ‘reality’ TV contestant are carefully defeating all the optimisation and annoying everyone on the same city block as them.
Is that what op was talking about? No I use headphones.
A video call with headphones isn’t any louder. But people can still hear one side
you have shit boundaries then. you dont answer work outside of work hours and make that everyone elses problem too
ITT people with jobs where they have to be available vs those who do not.
People who can’t imagine anybody else having a situation different from theirs.
Yeah, didn’t expect quite this much pushback but here we are. Apparently everyone else has jobs where they can tell their boss to pound sand regularly and not have to worry about ending up in the unemployment line in a few months, so I guess hey good on them.
I mean, it was 2pm, but kk.
Only a long list of very particular choices would leave you in a situation where it’s “unavoidable.” I don’t accept this excuse. Get your shit together.
Starting with choosing to not starve in this economy.
Sorry my dude. Sometimes there ain’t no option. If internet cafes were still a thing I’d do them there.
Coworking spaces exist and a lot of libraries have study/conference rooms you can use for cheap if not free
You’re assuming (incorrectly) that people that do these things live there or that every country has libraries with those spaces. News flash, they don’t. If you’re travelling and working and your hotel/whatever has shitty internet or no desk, sometimes you just don’t have a choice. After all, it’s literally just a person talking. Is it really that annoying just because the person they’re talking to isn’t physically there? Maybe it’s you who is being annyoing for complaining about this.
Brother are you ok? I genuinely mean that and not in the smart ass way. Shit going on has gotten me salty a good bit too at times and we have to try to keep ourselves from being just adding to the hatred. I havent made any complaints I just mentioned things that do exist that might help in at least some situations because a lot of people are saying theres no option in the comments.
Anecdotally, I moved from the US to a less developed country and these sorta spaces are everywhere some of the coffee shops have even adapted to having better noise control and more private seating which I think is a great answer for this situation.
I’m perfectly fine. It’s just kinda annoying when people assume that the guy taking a zoom call in a coffee shop does so becuse he chooses to. A lot of times the people doing that didn’t have a choice. And, after all, it’s just a person talking to another person. If they’re being loud, just tell them.
I think its definitely valid to be annoyed. I do think a lot of people assume (me included, im not faultless lol) that people dont even consider the other options when they are there they just go to the first place in mind.
I don’t. I hate working in coffee shops, but I’ve been forced to do so several times for different reasons. Maybe put your best foot forward next time and consider that the other person didn’t have a choice. Funny how you asked me if I was ok, but you’re the one scoffing at strangers for no good reason.
I havent scoffed at anyone here. I think you should get some help though you definitely arent ok.
They do, and neither work in most cases.
I have used libraries before and they are great for this when they are close by. I’ve never used a co-working space - do they have drop in desks where I can just slip in to one in a strange city and give them $10 to sit for 30 minutes?
My need typically comes when I’m travelling and something comes up. Coffee shops are quick and convenient and they have always been used for this kind of thing. Right back to their historical origin as trading houses.
Fair enough about the libraries. Coworking spaces though yes at least where im from. There was a place in my medium/small town right off main street that used to be a pharmacy. It had a lil cafe inside and was pretty cheap.
The ones I’ve always seen seem to be targeted to remote workers and solo practitioners - people who need some support space on a regular basis so there are service tiers and payment plans. I just need someplace to sit when the bat phone goes off. And yes I use headphones.
I’ve looking into coworkinf spaces and even a single space on a shared table costs an arm and a leg. Much more expensive than a simple cafe. Ive worked in a library before and I quite enjoy them.
I can’t imagine working at either place if I have a meeting though. That could be a serious breach of information.
Was in a Trader Joe’s and this woman was practically shouting into her phone. Even worse she had it on speaker and the woman on the other end was shouting back. Bad enough in the same isle, but then she walked up within 2 feet of me and they continued shouting into my ear. Two can play that game…
I looked at her and began hacking as loud as could which is really loud. When I paused the shouting resumed so I started hacking again. The look on her face when she shouted “ewwww!” and backed away was priceless.
Perhaps not one of my finest moments, but one I will always treasure anyway.
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English not first language by chance?
they pulled out their cyberdeck (a commodore 64 with an armstrap and a small CRT display affixed) and started typing furiously
Crap, here I was thinking they used a Nintendo Powerglove and a Virtual Boy
It’s soooo bad.
hacking
a cough - harsh, dry, and spasmodic
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They chopped (hacked) her to death with an axe
my rule is if strangers can figure out your job title from your coffee shop call, you’re doing too much
May, they’re just an inconsiderate ass.
Crank up some fart sounds on your phone.
I don’t need no phone for that.
Even better!
walk behind them and start making faces
Gimme a better option. I will be insufferable in order to make ends meet.
A coworking space
A library with a meeting room/quiet study room
At your home
At your company’s satellite branch if they have one
In the shade under a tree at a park away from people
–I just listed better options. You’re welcome.
Sorry. I meant, your welcome
A coworking space
A lot of them don’t have day/week passes.
A library with a meeting room/quiet study room
You’d be surprised by how many cities don’t have one of these.
At your home
What if I’m travelling?
At your company’s satellite branch if they have one
They don’t.
In the shade under a tree at a park away from people
No wifi + might be unsafe depending on the city.
Thanks for nothing brub.
You’re kind of assuming a certain level of wealth and type of town here. You’re really telling me a ton about where you live and your economic situation and not really considering anything else. It might be a big solution where you are but when my tiny library WiFi isn’t good enough for zoom meetings I need an actual alternative I guess I could try skipping town to go to my nearest co working space. But I’ll respond go your “you’re welcome” with a cordial thanks for the attitude and a bunch of options that are not necessarily applicable. But I wouldn’t really expect less from an entitled “don’t take your job interview in my coffee space.” Type person. Sometimes it’s the best option for people trying to get by. Sometimes people live near the coffee shop and don’t have a car. Sometimes a million things and situations that make it the best option in this hellscape. I’m sure your personal situation is different and all those evil meeting takers at your favorite coffee shop could just cross the street and go to the free super fast and private co-working space but that’s considering your situation a whole lot more than you’re doing mine.
Well yeah most of the time people are complaining online about things they see in their community spaces, they are referring to their own towns/settings
-5 feet further away
-not in my ear
-not beside my stall on the bathroom.
-with a headset
not really unreasonable nor difficult options. world is your oyster.
Who cares? Do you also find people who have in-person conversations in coffee shops insufferable? Or people who take phone calls?
I don’t visit coffee shops, but out and about, people on zoom calls, or regular calls are much louder.
Who cares?
The OP and a bunch of others in this thread.
Do you also find people who have in-person conversations in coffee shops insufferable? Or people who take phone calls?
ahh … rhetorical,
Yes.
Then stay in your house. Problem solved.
People usually yell (also during phone calls).
We were at a restaurant just tonight next to a table where a man had a FaceTime on speakerphone for like a half-hour.
Remember when that was impolite?
It still is, he’s just an idiot
A rude idiot!
Why? What difference does it make if they’re talking to someone face to face compared to it being via video call?
volume. the difference is volume.
So you’re just complaining about loud people, not people taking calls.
You can make a quiet call if you have headphones or earphones but I find that people (myself included) tend to talk louder on a call than they do in person. I’m sure that it’s not necessary but it happens anyway.
That doesn’t make it better. Do you see how your explanation doesn’t make it better?
Why do you think that I was trying to make it better?
Oh everywhere. People yapping at full volume holding their phone as far away as possible while the replies are nothing but highly distorted buzzing high volume screeches. On public transit. I was wishing for the whole bus to sink in the ocean.
I picture the moron wouldn’t even notice and continue yelling at the phone with bubbles going up.
Oh no, coffee just slipped… Oops
Ah, and also the politician who loudly discussed his strategy on the phone (tell them, but not them, etc.), so the whole train wagon could hear it. I guess some people just lack situational awareness sometimes. Or are so used to people listening to them.
its main character syndrome. aka developed narcissism.
Didn’t Trump’s lawyers discuss some extremely sensitive details about their response to the Mueller investigation’s requests RIGHT NEXT TO A REPORTER FOR THE NYT. Like a table over.
Omg yes, that stuff blows my mind.
