To me everyone should be. Think it’s kind of selfish to let viable organs go to waste when people are in need for them.
I’m a donor (woe betide whoever gets anything from me) but I totally understand not being OK with it. This guy says we won’t need them, but that’s unknowable. Maybe there’s a bunch of donors at the gate not being let in until the rest of them gets there. But if ever you have a right to claim ownership over anything, it’s your body. Your organs aren’t collective property others have a right to. You fuck off, these are my organs is a totally reasonable position.
I think few people would object to it if they were told it was an option, but the default is “no” in most countries and many people just don’t think to opt in.
In some US states, it’s opt out when you get ID or drivers license. I think that’s a better way to go about it
Opt out is fair at a minimum. Driving is the most dangerous thing we do, and if you’re going to do it, there’s an argument to be made that throwing your organ donor chip into the pot is the least you could do, because you could very well cause an accident someday that costs someone their life.
I agree with you, but as someone who does not drive, I still get a state ID with my organ donor status. If the law is opt-out, it would apply for anyone getting an ID, not just drivers.
If driving is the reason to make it opt out, I don’t see why that couldn’t be changed for state ID.
Though really I don’t see a problem with it being opt out for all. Many places do it that way.
I very much agree. Also, in a lot of places, that indicator on your license is not legally binding, the decision still comes down to your next of kin.
A system where everyone is a donor by default, but can opt out in a low-effort manner such as sending off a signed declaration, would still allow those with a genuine desire not to be donors the ability to do so, but would greatly increase the donor pool by capturing the majority of indifferent people who simply have not made the effort to opt in.
Primitive tribes and increasingly many modern Sky Daddy children think they will need the organs after they die
In my experience, some of the people that I have met that aren’t organ donors are afraid that the hospitals and doctors will do less to save you if you’re in an accident so that they can use all of your organs to “save” many more people. It’s dumb, but I’ve met a scary amount of folks who believe that.
I don’t want to provide any profit incentive for my death. Same reason life insurance makes me uncomfortable as well. It’s not rational.
It’s not entirely unjustified.
A Push for More Organ Transplants Is Putting Donors at Risk
People across the United States have endured rushed or premature attempts to remove their organs. Some were gasping, crying or showing other signs of life …
A surgeon made an incision in her chest and sawed through her breastbone.
That’s when the doctors discovered her heart was beating. She appeared to be breathing. They were slicing into Ms. Hawkins while she was alive.
On the other hand, they would have let her die if she was not a donor.
There’s also the chance you’ll get sold to be blown up
Why do they paywall all the fun stuff behind being dead
That part doesn’t matter one single shit to me. So what? I’d be dead. It doesn’t matter what happens to my body when I’m dead.
For that matter, why should anyone give a shit? Society has this really illogical view on corpses. We place way too much reverence on empty husks of meat. They are dead. Dead. The person who was there is gone. Their body is not them.
And if the person had some dying wish to be buried or cremated or anything like that, you don’t have to honor it. That’s the thing about respecting the wishes of dead people; they are dead, their opinion matters as much as the opinion of a brick. You don’t honor their memory by spending thousands of dollars to put an empty husk of meat pumped full of chemicals into a gaudy box and bury it in the ground next to hundreds of other boxes filled with empty meat husks. You honor their memory by remembering them. That’s it.
Have a funeral. Have a remembrance party. Mourn them with stories, with tears, and with an abundance of drink and unhealthy comfort food. The body does not need to be a part of it.
I consent to this
It’s crazy to see validated conspiracy right there out the NYT. As it reads, seems these procurement companies need to stop influencing doctors.
I mean…some organs you do not want. Like my colon. You do NOT want my colon.
Logic says my liver SHOULD be dead by now, but somehow I’ve had no issues. Sooooooo, maybe give it to an alcoholic? Apperently booze has no impact on my liver. How it survived my 20s, I’ll never know.
And my brain??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh, sorry. I was just imagining what it would be like if a silverback gorilla decided it wanted to tickle you. Because what are you gonna do? Get tickled by a gorilla, that’s what! Oh, also, my brain is weird. Probably don’t want anyone being given that.
I don’t even have an organ. Hell I don’t even know how to play one!
Some people such as myself can neither be blood nor organ donors because their bodies are undesirable.
Examples: Cancer, Leukemia, HIV, TB, Leiden V Factor, etc.
People with such issues are often incompatible donors.
That’s definitely not true. When I was waiting for lungs I originally said I only wanted a high quality organ but I got so sick I signed a waiver saying I would take whatever, some things will disqualify you sure but even things like HIV are fine because it’s considered something that can be managed with meds.
That’s definitely not true. some things will disqualify you sure but even things like HIV are fine because it’s considered something that can be managed with meds.
Then you must not live in the USA and have country requirements that are different than the USA:
quote: ‘Very few medical conditions permanently disqualify someone from donating. The short list includes active, spreading cancer and certain infectious diseases: HIV/AIDS (with an important exception discussed below), active hepatitis B or C, active tuberculosis, MRSA infections, and prion diseases like Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. These conditions pose a direct transmission risk to the recipient that can’t be managed.’
The exception:
‘Since 1988, donating organs while HIV-positive was banned in the United States. That changed with the HIV Organ Policy Equity (HOPE) Act, which lifted the federal ban in 2015. HIV-positive individuals can now donate organs to HIV-positive recipients. These transplants currently take place under research protocols with oversight from the National Institutes of Health, and transplant centers must receive specific approval to participate. This shift has opened a new source of organs for HIV-positive patients who previously faced longer waits.’
So generally not acceptable, but sometimes acceptable depending on the organ and the NIH oversight committee.
source:
https://scienceinsights.org/who-can-be-an-organ-donor-eligibility-explained/
No I do, I had to agree to it. Granted that was in 2014, absolutely possible they’re trying to ratchet down on it though since keeping organ recipients alive is expensive and often falls on the government I’m sure legislation to make it harder for us to get organs would be cost effective, especially if they weren’t top notch.
Also severe allergies. I’ve been told I couldn’t be an organ donor due to anaphylaxis. You can donate blood with heterozygous Leiden V factor though.
Religion
Are the recipients or hospital going to pay for my funeral? If no, they can get bent. As someone who works in the admin side of healthcare, it’s just Take, take, take from all sides.
If there is something valuable to extract from you, you best be sure that somebody is going to try to make business out of it.
I had hep c. Can’t be a donar.
Freedom of choice, also so people don’t murder others for an organ match
I live in a opt-out system. That means we are all donors unless we explicitly said the contrary.
I have never heard of a murder for an organ match.
Also I think we are the top one or two in the world on organ transplants.
They switched from opt-in to opt-out a while back here in the UK. They figured that most people don’t care either way, but that most people couldn’t be bothered to sign up for a Donor Card.
I’m kind of in the opposite boat. I have enough self-loathing and lack of desire to continue living on this planet any longer than I have to that I’m not sure I want any part of me to continue existing after brain death.
I didn’t opt-in before, and I feel bad about forcibly opting out, which is, I suppose, what the organ harvesters are counting on, so I haven’t.
Yet.
I am registered as an organ donor. Recent events and body/organ mismanaging lead me to like to be removed from that pool.
Examples : Someone mom was shoot over in a catapult style to test the strength of a military device, no body was able to be recovered for burial. Not only organs as one think can be used will be harvested, skin and other parts will too. Is all comoditized and the main winners are hospitals and body brokers.yes that’s a thing, look it up. I want my family to have closure when that happens not vein part of weird experiments, if I find a way to just hace like the basic organs removed then do the other ceremonies would be much easier to agree.
You can donate your body so they can sell it for what would be life changing money for your family. And on top they’ll disrespect your corpse for free.
If they were honest and we got paid I wouldn’t even be mad.
