Here, and in most leftist spaces, why does Islam always get a pass?

is it because when people picture “muslim” they picture a POC but when they picture “Christian” they picture a straight white man?

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            I (regrettably) went through your profile and I see no evidence of what you’re claiming in the OP. What I do see, though, is plenty of evidence that you like to make claims without evidence and then annoy people until they start cursing at you. It’s simultaneously very Christian (religion is not based on verifiable evidence) and not very Christian (which preaches tolerance and respect) of you. My advice: lay off on the proselytising and you’ll be better accepted by people who have differing opinions on religion.

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              I respect, tolerate and love every single human being.

              But not their sin, or specific sinful/heretical ideogies

              and “religion is not based on verifiable evidence” is false

              Christianity has a lot of evidence and people just like to ignore ALL of it because they would have to stop living a sinful lifestyle and tend to their Spirit and not constantly their flesh

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                I respect, tolerate and love every single human being.

                This is why the saying “There is no hate as strong as a Christians love.” exists.

                If your “love” is causing people to curse you, maybe you should ask for consent before spewing “love” on people.

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        I don’t curse out people who simply believe in something and act like decent human beings regardless of their spiritual alignment.

        I curse out people proselytizing, i curse out people who say others are worth less because of what they believe. If you are in the latter group, feel cursed out by me.

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          if you try to say ANYTHING related to the Church on Lemmy, youre gonna get 5 types of Comments

          • Pedophiles (???)
          • slur
          • slur
          • I HATE YOU AND DKOEIRJR RUI3O3JOJK
          • Reddit Atheist that crumbles up and calls you a slur when presented with proof
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                For proving Christianity is real.

                That’s like the holy grail. You will become rich and famous.

                What are you waiting for? Go provide your proof to the Nobel Committee.

                Or are you afraid?

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                  Nobel Prize in what?

                  Chemistry? Physics? Theres no Nobel Prize in theology

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                    Oh wow you’ve totally dismantled the point I was making by questioning the governing body I chose to name while making it.

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            Reddit Atheist that crumbles up and calls you a slur when presented with proof

            Please show me the proof. I promise not to call you slurs.

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                So if I understand, this letter only repeats the claim which was told to the doctor who wrote this letter… Which part proves the claim?

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                  the doctor who wrote this letter was the one who studied the host

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                    Which part of the letter exactly provides the proof that the slide studied by the doctor was grown on “the host” ? The doctor never claims to believe that. He only says he was told by someone that the material on the slide was kept in water for 3 months. All the doctor says about it is that this would be impossible. That’s the opposite of proof.

                    Think of it this way. I send a burnt rag to a Forensic Fire Investigator. The investigator agrees it was burnt by fire. If the investigator also reports that they were told the rag came from the cage of a fire breathing dragon and the dragon keeper swears there is no other source of fire in the cage, would that be proof that there exists a fire breathing dragon in a cage?

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                When I was later told that the heart tissue was kept in tap water for about a month and transferred to sterile, distilled water for three year

                Doo they have proof of this? Or just two dudes word and pinky promise they are telling the truth?

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                  cardiac tissue cannot grow from contamination via fingertips or tap water unless it is a miracle

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                    Yes i understand that, but do they have proof this is what happened? I could make a side with heart tissue and concoct a story about its origins, that does not make it a miracle.

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                  even if it was mishandled, you cannot keep human cardiac tissue ALIVE for YEARS just via contamination and a water container

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                Hearsay, hearsay and more hearsay. There is no proof that the tissue has been in water, but the inspecting physician has been very adamant that tissue being stored in water for YEARS, regardless of distilled or not, cannot show the blood cells in the sample, because they would have been washed out ages ago. This leaves 4 possibilities:

                • The people bringing in the sample were telling bullshit tales. This is by far the most probable reason.
                • Someone who has reason to make it appear like a miracle has messed with the samples, replacing them. This doesn’t mean the people bringing the samples in don’t think this is authentic, but without a 100% secured chain of custody it cannot be ruled out. There are people who would be able to make a lot of money out of something like this, so this is the second-most probable reason, and would give the people bringing the sample in additional authenticity because they really believe.
                • The physician made MULTIPLE errors while analyzing the sample. We can’t rule this out, but if he is somewhat competent, this is very improbable
                • We see a miracle. As long as the chain of custody over the samples isn’t 100% watertight, as it is in this case, this isn’t even improbable, it is borderline impossible.

                Bring us irrefutable proof (hint: you won’t be able to) that this sample hasn’t been messed with in the years before it landed on that physicians desk.

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                  how can you “mess with” a sample to make LIVING heart tissue appear on it when you are presumably two catholic clergymen with limited resources?

                  Are you suggesting that they performed a vivisection and took out LIVING heart tissue and preserved it for years and managed to keep the WBCs alive?

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                    By replacing the sample. Hearts aren’t really a rare thing, arent they? The amount of the sample wasn’t really defined, which means even a biopsy sample might suffice - no human sacrifice needed, and it’s an outpatient procedure.

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            If you push religious worldviews here on lemmy, you will get laughed out. This is not confined to a single religion, but rather to all of them outside of academic discussions regarding religions, which are often very interesting.

            If you proselytize, you deserve any shit you get thrown your way, because you started throwing shit into the community.

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            That’s not what I asked. Why do you think it’s OK to use slurs in this situation and not in others? Because of upvotes? Because you reported it and some comments were removed but others weren’t? Because of some written rules?

            Where do you see those discussions? I don’t think I have ever seen people discuss religion on lemmy. We probably follow different communities. What communities are you talking about?

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        A) lemmy is not real life

        B) most lemmy users are from the West where conservatives have been blatantly anti-Muslim for ages. From the perspective of Americans and Europeans, left-wing defense of Islam is about defending our neighbors from hate.

        C) lemmy is extremely atheist, you will find criticism of anything here. Block and move on

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          most people here have USbrain, they cant fathom anything outside the US

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          a) well this is, after all, asklemmy isnt it?

          b) yeah, I see that a lot, bunch of people from here think “Christians” and “Republicans” mean the same thing (which is absolutely incorrect and factually wrong)

          c) thanks

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            Look up the “No true Scotsman”-Fallacy, which absolutely hits the nail on the head when conflating Christian Evangelists and Republicans. Just saying they aren’t real christians doesn’t make them less christian.

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              They dont follow the Athanasian Creed They dont follow the Church

              how are they Christian?

              because they claim to be?

              if I claimed to be you, would I be you?

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                  If I claimed to be you, would I be you?

                  They are not Christian

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                    You claim to be Christian.

                    They claim to be Christian.

                    You claim they are not Christian.

                    They claim you are not Christian.

                    Sounds to me like you both have equal claims to the title. Can you help us understand why YOU are the only one who has the authority to define what a Christian is?

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                    Because they believe in God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and use the Bible as a basis. That defines pretty much all of Christianity, regardless of how they interpret the scripture.