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Some societies consider the welfare of others; other societies don’t.
Do people in Germany typically call for ambulances after their heart attack? Doesn’t sound like an ideal strategy
Also #fuckcars
Why not? Ambulance at your house in 10 mins is not unheard of (where I am)
That’s faster than I would be able to hail a cab or public transport. I sure as hell am not gonna cycle or drive if I am actively suffering from a cardiac arrest
I just imagine an old grey haired guy sitting on the kitchen floor taking his pulse
“Waaait for it not yet, still happening almost”
While his family is there clambering for him to just call for an ambulance
All the literature I’ve read states that getting help as fast as possible gets the best health outcome, not a doctor, just a dude who happens to have a heart
I’m not sure if you two are just joking or if there’s actual some confusion here. What the guy in the video means by “before” the heart attack is before there’s any indication you’re gonna have one.
Well that’s not what he said sooooo?
What? Do you think that people can predict when they will get a heart attack? When else would people call it if not after the person has it?
There are 100% signs of an impending heart attack? What the fuck are you talking about?
Chest pains and shortness of breath aren’t going to cause most people to preemptively call an ambulance. Also the signs aren’t 100% lots of people have heart attacks without knowing it, especially women.
Why be so rude to people online? It’s not a good look especially when you’re incorrect in your statements.
I don’t know where the fuck you got ‘cause most people’ to do anything, all I said was the last guy is wrong for saying there are no signs of an impending heart attack
I dunno why do loud mouths like you butt into conversations and make false accusations about shit that was never said?
Well at least I know I can block you. Get some help with anger management.
And how many seconds before the attack do those appear? Is that timeframe relevant in a fucking way to this discussion?
I really don’t get your point. If people are around to help the person, they will and then call the ambulance. Where do you take the waiting from? Isn’t a heart attack something that happens suddenly? Why would you wait before you call the ambulance if you know it will happen? Where do you take that from?
Thank you :) I’m happy you came around to my point of view
What ever…
You better. If you do not arrive at the ER via ambulance, they will assume your case is not an emergency.
That’s pretty fucked,
sorry your Nana died, she didn’t use der zugelassene Krankenwagen! So we left her in the lobby
Ja, well. Good luck finding someone to talk to.
In Germany, if you are seriously sick or injured, you need support from someone who can make demands of the hospital and the doctors, otherwise you get no info and probably not enough treatment and medication. If Mutti doesn’t have anyone actively engaging with doctors and staff, Mutti is pretty much f’ed in proverbial a. Why? Because everyone is overworked and disillusioned and very tired, and there is never enough time or money to treat people properly because of the way our health system has been restructured: to be profit oriented - even public hospitals.
Still beats what they have in 'murica: at least you can get affordable treatment even as a nobody.
Kinda misleading. This dude is a comedian and “influencer” (not really in the typical sense but he films a lotta stuff for online content). He cuts filming just as people are moving out of the way for the ambulance.
I ain’t saying NYC doesn’t have a problem with what he’s saying, but I am saying you can see how he’s not being entirely honest and he’s incentivized to be dishonest.
Even if they did eventually move out of the way, it would still be way slower than what happens in Germany (and many other European countries). Cars would begin to move out of the way as soon as they notice it approaching.
I am a german i never seen this guy. Maybe he is more famous in the USA.
Yeah he primarily posts English language content because his humor is mostly based off English speaking stereotypes instead of, well, jokes.
No amount of dishonesty can invalidate the fact that in a typical german city that ambulance would be going literally 10 times as fast without any issues. Its not just stupid drivers, but NYC is also just a complete failure in terms of road design.
NYC is thrice as dense as Berlin, the densest city in Germany. Probably accounts for something.
It really doesn’t, because in Germany cars always move out of the way. Even if the street is completely full of cars waiting at a red light for example.
tbf it’s because there is room for them or the ambulance to move to, like a bus lane, a bicycle path etc, but that’s not acceptable in many places
No, that’s my point. In the video there is much more room to move than what I mean, with two lanes it mostly suffices to just move the car to either edge of the road.
Berlin is the capital of Germany, but NOT the densest city of Germany
Well it wasn’t leveled 80 years ago.
Its not that deep. They just need to remove 2 of the three car lanes, replace em with a bike and a bus lane and the problems is solved.
I would love to hear someone propose that at a city council.
Im sure that has happened, but the car lobby has the money and money is literally the only deciding factor in US politics.
The idea of a car lobbyist sitting in on a fucking city council meeting.
You guys are like gnomes the way you talk about America.
No the car lobby doesn’t have to do anything, our own goddamn reactionaries will immediately squeal “They gonna make traffic WORSE!” despite the fact that I find our single lane freeways more efficient here because The option to choose what fucking lane they are in allows these people to make more mistakes and force more ‘brake waves’.
If you genuinely believe that there are no car and oil lobbyists in local politics, especially in a city as big and famous as NYC then you are completely out of touch with reality. Yes thats not the entire reason for why its like this but it definitely helps buying of politicians.
I mean, there are about a thousand people that can coroborate the fact that people block ambulances in NYC all the time.
Oh yeah absolutely I ain’t denying that, I just don’t like that this dude is doing this for content.
You mean filming?
He cuts filming just as people are moving out of the way for the ambulance.
You do realize you’ve proved his point? In Europe there’d be no “just as they are moving”, the cars would have already moved by the time the ambulance reached them.
Bro is the Uncle Roger of Germans
He’s a comedian.
Also, there’s no place for people to pull over.
He’s exactly what I’d expect of a German comedian.
I’ve seen some videos of his act. IMO he’s not very funny, his comedic style is mostly the one where it’s shitting on everything. So it’s not surprising to see him picking a situation like this and shitting on it.
Also, there’s no place for people to pull over.
Because USA is a shithole.
You’re looking at one incident, on one block, in the one city in America that is radically different than all of the others.
And that said, NYCs response times are around 10min, which is target that Germany also tries to hit. https://www.nyc.gov/assets/operations/downloads/pdf/mmr2025/2025_mmr.pdf
Huh? How is there not? At least on the video there is. People just are not using that place.
Exactly. He’s criticizing the country, not just those drivers. We keep voting for people who want our cities clogged with excessive cars.
The ambulance could have just passed right through his front teeth to get by.
What makes the bicycle kinky?
This dude is a comedian and calling things kinky is one of his catchphrases.
Another reason I don’t like this idea of this dude being used as any source of information, I find his comedy routine exhausting and overly laden with tired, old stereotypes instead of actual humor. A lot of his jokes are “Germans are fetishists”, “Germans used to be Nazis”, :Germans are rigid and rules following" and “my wife is Jewish, isn’t that bizarre?”
Oh, yeah, repeating old ‘"funny’" stereotypes isn’t really very masterful humor
She always wants you to ride her?
This guy is a fucking donkey.
Not just NYC. I see the same kinda shit in California too.
We have entirely too many entitled fuckfaces in this country and all of them drive.
All of them are forced to drive. Some people admit they are terrible drivers, but have no options if they still want to have a life not revolving around commuting.
Being a terrible driver and not making way for emergency vehicles aren’t necessarily mutual.
Like, using another example, a bad driver might park a little over the line. An entitled asshole will purposely take up 4 spots or use the handicap space when they are not handicapped.
US drivers do not understand the Rettungsgasse. +1 Deutschland!
Berlin is larger (892km^2 vs 783km^2) and less population dense (6 million vs 20 million in the matro areas). So… Kinda comparing apples to oranges.
The time to arrive at emergency should be the same. Death will not wait for you.
Must be nice living in a world where population dynamics and physics don’t exist.
Why would they not exist in USA?
Then take London or Paris and compare New York to them. The ambulances are able to get through in London. Here’s something: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Ez1K1W-uM
Apples to Döner Kebabs
NYC EMS story.
Cab driver gets in a fender bender with a 911 ambulance.
After arguing with the crew and supervisor he decides he has neck and back pain and he must go to the hospital.
A second ambulance is dispatched and, following protocol, fully immobilizes him and takes him to the hospital.
En route the cabbie complains about how slow the ambulance is going.
“Everyone else is like you, none of them get out of the way.”
I dunno, The last time we let Germany march places it didn’t go well.
Where do you expect them to go? They’re supposed to fly out of the way?
Rettungsgasse. It means that the cars on the leftmost lane pull over to the left and all other cars move over to the right. That always creates enough space for an emergency vehicle to pass through.
Have you ever driven in NYC? There are already cars to the left, right, front, and back of you. There’s nowhere to go except forward.
The transcription is almost correct all the way except for one part.
When he says, “Whoever needed it, they’re dead”.
The transcription reads, “Whoever needed it, they’re okay”.because social media platforms will delete your content and ban you if you continue to talk about the “bad stuff”.
- death
- murder
- suicide
- rape
- guns
- drugs
welcome to the dawn of the age of new speak. I heard a 13 year old kid last week say “unalive” instead of “kill”.
we’re so fucked.
It’s to be advertiser friendly. All kids use new words. We did the same
Kids invent new words for their current culture. They in no way organically invent words that are friendly to advertisers. You should be disgusted that corporations are now such an invasive species they are affecting the language our youth is inventing. This is poison. It is not at all normal.
Dude. Bro. Radical. Excellent. Tubular. Fleek. Ratchet.
Are not at all the same as:
Sewerslide. Unalive. Junocide.
Oligarchs are forcing kids to learn a new language that downplays the very suffering they are causing worldwide.
You should be furious, not apathetic. Or your kids will never learn the meaning of those words as they aren’t productive to the oligarchy.
Yeah I’ve got bigger hills to die on than language bro.
Seems pretty foundational to our species tbh.
Yeah, but your kids don’t which is my point.
language literally shapes your mind.
I can see your language took the shape of a walnut.
Nah just actually found people more cynical about the world than me for once.
It’s way worse. They don’t ban you and they don’t delete your content. TikTok ads don’t pay enough that demonetization is a concern either.
The algorithm just silently (!) deranks your content. They don’t have guidelines, they don’t have feedback, they will never communicate on what is and is not okay to post about. You’ll just say “Fuck ICE” in a video once and notice it is doing suspiciously worse than the rest, but then again, you’re never quite sure why some of your videos “make it” and some don’t. So maybe you’re being paranoid? You can’t tell.
So on top of the very real algorithmic censorship from these platforms, you’ve got very frequent bouts of mass psychosis where everyone self-censors for no other reason that other people are doing it and they don’t want to risk it. Is the word “dead” de-ranked? Quite likely not even, but who’s to say, and it doesn’t cost anything to farm a little engagement in the comments by self-censoring…
Isn’t the future bright?
His jokes about Germany and being German gets repetitive, but i can’t deny that he still makes me laugh everytime!
