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Number of times trans people knocked on my door to convincing me or my children into questioning my gender and changing it and my views on the topic, vs the number of religious people knock on my door to try to convince me that I’m living a life of sin, that my values are shit and that I’ll burn in hell unless I convert to their religion.
[feeling grateful for the gate at my housing complex.]
Too many people gloss over the fact how insane it is that some people genuinely believe non-believers burn forever in a magic post death torture world. Like how can someone think that while talking with someone, and be like, aw sucks for them, glad I submit to this ancient chain email creepypasta.
It still baffles me when I realize someone thinks like that.
I have been baffling over this very thing for many, many years. Always glad to see someone else put it into words as well.
Going to heaven is the ultimate nepo and gambler move. Either you are born with the right religion, or you guess and join the right one out of hundreds, or you burn forever.
Is it only US where religious people are like “vaccines are satan” or do other countries have them as much?
I’ve seen it around Africa. Usually related to where there’s a bunch of Jehovah’s Witnesses. It dovetails well with scattered cultural prohibitions on anything to do with messing with the blood. No blood donations, no transfusions. Likely related to decades of HIV/AIDS concerns.
Edit: it’s also why a lot of polio vaccines are oral in Africa. Less stigma.
People in Africa have every reason to be suspicious of white men coming in and injecting them with shit.
https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/medicine-empires-and-ethics-colonial-africa/2016-07
https://news.uoregon.edu/content/medical-researchers-africa-must-learn-past-prof-finds
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2020/4/8/medical-colonialism-in-africa-is-not-new
So yeah, it is frustrating to see when they push against things like vaccines, but it’s entirely understandable given the history of what has been done to these people again and again.
Oh, for sure. The way the British came in and told everyone to put their boobs away because it’s immodest, and use formula made with well water to give your baby diarrhea early and maybe kill it, just breathtakingly idiotic.
I’ve seen it around Africa. Usually related to where there’s a bunch of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
So it’s USA again. Usual bullshit colonialism.
Oh no, it’s locals that are JWs. But there’s plenty of non-JW cultural reasons that push the idea of no injections.
Did you really just ignore the entire second half of the comment? The JW folks just have a more coherent “it says no in this book” logic.
Ortodoxy is catching up, via fake podcast bro priests.
Idiots need prayer because they can’t comprehend science, simple as that.
EVERYONE can comprehend “science”
its not CTHULU
Science is too BROAD to be referred to like this
Some of the most prominent scientists were and still are religious
- Thought
- Empathy
- Compassion
- Humanity
- Caring
- Not abusing other people
- Not raping children
- Loving thy neighbor
- Not murdering people who believe something else
- Letting people be who they are unmolested
Social diseases.
couldn’t have said it better myself
Given the title of the blank list is “Diseases eradicated by prayer” this list gets a lot funnier.
Ethics exist independently of any deities even if they did exist.
If ethics didn’t exist separately, and God is actually the source of good, then we would have a lot of logical paradoxes to solve.
For instance, let’s assume God is who defines goodness and educates us on it, and goodness does not exist without God.
Thus, we recognize we don’t have inherent ability to define what’s good or bad. But that also means we can’t prove God is good, because we already recognized only God can define what’s good.
I might have butchered the logical fallacy a bit, logic is hard, but I remember it roughly being stated this way.
Is this supposed to be in the prayer category?
No this is the list of things religion has eradicated
Agreed, but sadly the religious people don’t see it that way (as I’m sure you know, I just hate how disillusioned they are).
Well #10 is kind of a gimme; molestation is sort of their whole thing.
You mean to say that the only thing keeping you from r*ping children is fear of God?
It’s the only thing stopping them, and it’s not even working.
Is prison the only thing keeping you from committing crimes?
I grew up in the church, they will tell you that since a human(s) eradicated a disease, it was clearly god that worked through them. They always have a workaround bullshit answer
exactly, that’s why arguments like the one in this meme doesn’t work
No rationale argument works on the irrational. The goal is to plant the seeds of rational thought. To appeal to people who aren’t completely gone, yet. The meme works perfectly fine.
see, the thing is, they are not irrational. their logic (god works through humans) is completely self-consistent, they are just basing their logic on a different set of fundamentals than us. you can say that they are not scientific, you then would be completely correct. but they are not irrational, and that’s the difficult part of changing people’s mind.
If that means those idiots at least get vaccinated then I will take that.
Given that that were true; their god also created the disease and is responsible for all the suffering. Their god is still at a net negative.
So existence is a net negative in your book? I’m fairly pessimistic but that seems somewhat extreme.
Fucking-eh, he made every calamity that has befallen man, yet the shits still think it’s a “good” plan.
And a lot of the scientists are atheists, so it clearly doesn’t matter if they believe in god.
I mean if we accept the hypothesis that God exists, and that he created humans, he created them with a reason.
Sure, but the logic reveals literally nothing. I can create an entire Sims world for the sole reason to see if the “turn pink clothing in to green clothing” mod works. Does the fact that their existence had a reason actually mean a damn thing?
That reason? Kill off every living thing god created.
But didn’t he create it all for us though? Which then becomes a good excuse for us to consume it all.
I mean, we’re supposed to be stewards according to the teachings, but all those dumbass children hear is, “hey this is yours …” and just kinda space off the rest of everything said…
If God exists, I reckon we are a high school simulation project that he forgot and accidentally left running.
This is also true when Epsteiner auctions off a 13 year old
Yeah the omnipotent God bullshit breaks when a rainstorm floods a girls camp and kills a bunch of them. But then they claim the devil did it, or even victim blame in a creepy and fucked up way wondering if they were really pure Christians or not, or if there’s some mysterious upside or lesson.
They can’t see a bad guy without trying to be them.
Now let us see diseases created by science in comparison to prayer …
What?
Wat ?
Now do which diseases were brought back by religious nut jobs
I prayed for god to eradicate or decimate those diseases, and he in his infinite wisdom created scientists to do so.
Checkmate atheists.
That’s what I don’t understand about creationists. If you believe god made everything, what’s wrong with believing God used evolution to do it? If the answer is “take the Bible literally”, well that doesn’t work because of all the shit in the Bible that they choose to ignore.
The premise of religion is designed to be bullet proof: god requires faith, don’t test god. It’s required that you have to believe it without proof. Why add things that are so far out there like “the devil/god made fossils as a trick to test your faith”?
That’s why I light this and pray to St. Carl of Ithaca every night.
Yes, but…what about bringing back eradicated diseases with anti-vaxxing? Ain’t that a miracle.
Leprosy?
Leprosy still exists, though it is curable. And that cure has absolutely nothing to do with prayer.
What about the woke mind virus?
Prayer has a hundred percent cure rate for that.
Came here to say exactly this.
But, according to Fox News, even God can’t eradicate the Woke Mind Virus. But that’s because Yahweh loves cruelty.
Covid19 didn’t make the cut?
It is very much not eradicated.
Neither is measles.
…and?
Well, tetanus is on the list too, and that is definitely still around.
Chicken pox still exists.
Plenty of plagues started by religion, though.
Jokes in you we prayed for societal collaboration and progress. Profit and capitalism seems like a major side effect though 😵💫
