Just to clarify, I don’t think it’s a problem that hatred is minimal here, and I don’t just mean politics.
I feel like I very rarely see alternative opinions about anything, whether it be software, ai, news about companies, etc. it just seems like everyone universally agrees about anything with only a tiny handful of exceptions.
It makes me hesitant to believe I’m on the “correct side” and I never see any arguments from opposition. This makes me worried that I’m in some sort of echo chamber. In real life, I do see much more diverse opinions and, if I only used the fediverse for social media, would likely be weaker in defending my own since their arguments would be “new” to me.
I understand the reasons for which the fediverse has pretty collective opinion, but it does still worry me. I want to be able to see all the other people with their own thoughts (given it’s respectful) on the Internet, which should be the most capable tool to do so.
there are absolutely conservative lemmy instances, but again I’m not sure what the value is of this - conservative ideology is broadly reality denying (even by their own admission), and it’s just poor reasoning that different opinions are always valuable to be acquainted with and take seriously.
For example, I do not think that medical students should be taking classes in astrology, alchemy, homeopathy, and chiropractic as well as their classes on biology, chemistry, anatomy & physiology, etc.
We can evaluate different viewpoints on the merits of how well they are based on reason or evidence, and dismiss poorly reasoned or poorly evidenced views (or better, views that are proven wrong through reasoning or evidence).
The value is learning about how they view the world.
If I understand them, I understand the world better not because they have a deeper understanding, but because they have reality denying viewpoints that 23-45% of my fellow countrymen share.
Why is that valuable? These people hold onto their viewpoints not from reason or logic, but emotional media manipulation.
Us being aware of whatever topic they are frothing at the mouth over this week does not help in any meaningful way. It’s not like we can debate them into coming sround.
That’s what psychology classes are for. Psychology of Learning and Abnormal Psychology are good places to start.
But its not abnormal. Last election, it was basically half the country.
Also it is dynamic. Right now their worldview is completely in flux because they shape their opinions around whatever Trump is doing that week. But its getting legitimately hard for them keep up and Trump is loosing support online and in polls (55 to 23-33%) because of that.
No, it was a third of the country. Regardless, we’re not talking normality in the sense of what’s average or prevalent, but rather deviation from the normal, healthy operation of the human mind. That whole third of the US population seems to be suffering the psychological symptoms of lead poisoning, for instance, and that’s abnormal.
Wrong again. They shape their opinions around whatever helps them maintain control, impose rationality, and avoid consequences. They follow Trump because they see in him a fast track to a society that caters to this mindset.
Because he is seeming less and less to them like the guy who will be their fast track to a society that caters to their mindset. The personal cost to them for pursuing this course is growing beyond the point where their perceived reward is worthwhile.
“They shape their opinions around whatever helps them maintain control, impose rationality, and avoid consequences.”
Perfect. You can’t argue with them because they don’t actually believe anything. Fucking brainless pod people
yes, that’s admittedly valuable, this is why I’ve spent so much time studying Christianity and talking to Christians about their beliefs; but the OP put me in the mindset of thinking about diversity of viewpoints to ensure an accurate or correct viewpoint, which is a separate goal or concern - so I thought it was being implied that reading /r/conservative views is a valuable exercise because it helps us develop more accurate or better views (which I don’t think is likely)
This is the best post I’ve read all year, rofl 😁 ! (The middle part)
wow, that’s nice of you to say 😅 I feel like this is even better than getting “reddit gold” 😄