Just to clarify, I don’t think it’s a problem that hatred is minimal here, and I don’t just mean politics.
I feel like I very rarely see alternative opinions about anything, whether it be software, ai, news about companies, etc. it just seems like everyone universally agrees about anything with only a tiny handful of exceptions.
It makes me hesitant to believe I’m on the “correct side” and I never see any arguments from opposition. This makes me worried that I’m in some sort of echo chamber. In real life, I do see much more diverse opinions and, if I only used the fediverse for social media, would likely be weaker in defending my own since their arguments would be “new” to me.
I understand the reasons for which the fediverse has pretty collective opinion, but it does still worry me. I want to be able to see all the other people with their own thoughts (given it’s respectful) on the Internet, which should be the most capable tool to do so.
There are facts and there are opinions. There are plenty of different opinions here in a lot of topics. But people largely agree on some basic facts, like, you know, vaccines work, the earth is a globe and the Trump administration is incompetent and corrupt. Pretty much all of “conservative” thought these days consists of denying basic, easily verifiable facts and replacing them with phantasms. We get some of that here too but luckily it’s not very prevalent.
I could argue that one of your facts is subjective: the Trump administration is only incompetent based on your reference frame. Now, it is a morally bankrupt reference frame where they are competent (they’re very competent at normalizing the corruption), but still, they’ve proven quite competent in reaching their set goal so far.
Yeah it absolutely would benefit from a wider range of opinions. That’s why a large portion of my comments are “against the grain”, I don’t see the value of reinforcing prevailing opinions in an echo chamber. I hope that as Lemmy grows we will see more diverse opinions, but what I think is more likely is that the hard-core leftist part of Lemmy will sort of secede and defederate so they can preserve their echo chamber while the rest of lemmy gets taken over by “normies”
You are not a normie, you are the problem.
Don’t bother, humans don’t deserve any intervention.
You reap what you sew.
It’s “sow”; reaping is harvesting grain, sowing is planting it
Username checks out.
Great point, I agree with you!
Exactly! That’s what I was thinking!
I also think what you are thinking.
Express yourself. Fuck everyone else’s opinions and correctness, value yours until it’s defeated. It’s not rare that what is generally perceived as correct, is still wrong. Turn off the voting system and express yourself without worrying about numbers, focus in the arguments.
This makes me worried that I’m in some sort of echo chamber
You are. Just consider how small the amount of people knowing about lemmy is, now take the ones who are interested in it (over using something like reddit) and now pick the ones who are technically capable to register an account. Those are us, those who have gone through this selection process.
It’s not that hard to make an account, is it?
I’ve never figured it out
What levels of diversity are you expecting? I am here exactly to avoid the extreme polar opposite diversity many mainstream platforms offer. I see people agreeing and disagreeing but they are still having some common ground which enables the disagreement to look civil. Considering the mainstream social media this can look like a lack of diversity, but it’s actually how it is supposed to be in a civilized world…
And also, there’s the platform bias. The fact that you are on Lemmy here and not on Reddit asking this, also gives a lot of information what your opinions are, and by that you already share a lot in common with most people here. Sharing a lot in common also means less things to argue about.
Until the last man, people will find reasons to disagree and kill each other.
A brief disagreement by Steve Cuts.
Maybe we don’t even need a reason.
While not directly related hapiness is also good.
Yep, it’s pretty cringe.
This isn’t a fucking poll. It’s a website with a bunch of jackasses on it. You want better sampling start poking for your opinions instead of shitting them out on whatever social media site.
Yes, these are very valid concerns. Maybe start first with some controversial opinion?
Prolly not a good idea. I’ve heard mods here are supposed to be as badly power tripping as on Reddit.
Power tripping on what little bit of power they might hold is a human thing. Not that it isn’t despicable, it’s just been around longer than the internet has existed, longer than society has existed even, I’d wager. It just used to involve physical power but now it involves social power or just bits on a server that say their account can control what other accounts do.
The only advantage of Lemmy is that you can get away from an admin abusing their power without leaving the platform entirely, so mods and admins teaming up doesn’t mean you can be silenced entirely on the platform like you can on the centralized ones like reddit or twitter.
No. I’m perfectly secure in my absolute hatred and rejection of bigotry and violence.
But, to be fair and balanced, have you considered the many pros of bigotry?
It’s important for the discourse that you respect my position, no matter how dogshit it is or how poorly I defend it.
/s
hatred is minimal here
I’ve started encountering a decent amount of transphobia in the global feed lately, so hearing that “hatred is minimal here” is pretty fucking rich
One reason you’re noticing a homogeneity of opinions on here is the fact that Lemmy isn’t botted like larger social networks. Larger networks have bots farms pushing all sorts of narratives for various reasons, and the one thing they accel at is finding people to argue with.
You are also certainly in a bubble on Lemmy. You have to know it exists and care enough to use it over other platforms. Most people choose the path of least resistance.
its botted plenty. i was just in a china circkejerk thread where there was immediate defense of china and massive attavk of anything that didnt promote china
The China vs US one ?
Brigades are out in full force in those trenches
yes. it was bad. no platform is immune
I get argued with on here fairly often. The fact that the people arguing with me are usually morons reinforces my belief that I’m on the right side of things.
But how do you judge them to be morons (and to be on the “right” side)?
Their arguments aren’t based in any kind of logic or facts. If all they have is their opinion and name calling I can feel pretty good about my stance.
I live in south currently and it feels like IRL is the echo chamber.
I genuinely did not know there are americans actually opposed to Israel until I came to lemmy. And I especially did not know it was a big group.
When the mango came to KY the whole crowd stayed quiet even during times when people usually cheer (usually his middle school nicknames). The only time they cheered was when he said the words “epic fury” 🤦♂️
Then a man threw a beer can at him and called him a Pedo
Do you not watch the news IRL? Pro-Palestinian protests have been in the headlines practically since the Hamas terrorist attacks on 10/7/23. I’m not sure how you’ve missed them.
It’s true, but as long as you’re aware of it I guess it’s fine since it’s definitely the minority echo chamber.
What worries me is that even here among the “civilized” it’s very rare to see people with different views actually have a proper conversation about it. Most are just shallow and reactionary, they only downvote and resort to name calling.
