Doesn’t Kraft donate enormous sums of money to Israel?
Yes.
That’s cute and all but I seriously doubt the monies are going to go where it’s supposed to go. He would have been better off donating to homeless shelters.
Same statement can be made about homeless shelters
MS rachel already is matching his donation by giving 1mil of her own to palestine. and she called out celebrities to do the same, although she said “white celebs”
TIL Ms Rachel is racist.
(/s, obviously…hopefully)
A lot more to give for macklemore versus billionaire kraft. He’ll likely say he’s going to match or exceed for optics. At least challenge kraft back at that point to tell him to share receipts publicly. He likely doesn’t donate shit, or donates to a sham fund.
dont you mean billionaire sex trafficker, esptein associate.
Hey a reminder to check his music and get his numbers up
he also has 3 songs specifically about shit like that:
(so make sure they get more popular)
Hi, I’m wondering how many people would agree with this statement:
“I am not antisemitic, I am anti-genocide, and these are two different things.”
Just trying to understand general sentiments.
general sentiment: Gazans are currently paying the price for 80+ years of making the wrong political decisions and supporting terrorism.
genocide claims are specious at best. Just like at the end of WW2, where a lot of German civilians had to die as a consequence of bad political decisions made back in the 1930’s. Even if they didn’t vote for Hitler, all had to pay the price collectively. In this world, sometimes, that’s just the way it goes. Time to pay the piper. Chickens come home to roost and all of that.
general sentiment: shout less slogans you heard on social media, and read a history book now and then.
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What constitutes a genocide? What is your personal definition of a genocide, and what makes you consider the actions that Israel is undertaking in Gaza not satisfy that definition?
By the way, it’s very nice to speak to someone who has read the history books, because I have, like, a bunch of questions.
What poor political decision lead to the deir yassin massacre? Is there any particular political decision that caused settlers to burn entire cillages to the ground in the 40s? Who made that decision?
And what poor political decision on the part of the Palestinians lead to the ethnic cleansing of 400k arabs in 1967?
And what decision lead to the murder of 3000 palestinian refugees over the span of two nights in the refugee camps sabra and shatila?
What poor political decision lead to
Both sides walking away in 1947…
Although time has demonstrated that it was a bigger mistake for the Palestinians than it was for the Jews.
Ok, I didn’t expect much, but this is very little. When you said we should read the history books, which books did you mean? Did you read them? Have you read any Pappé? Have you read Morris’ early work?
And when you completely ignored my question about what your personal definition of genocide is, and how it leads you to deny the genocide in Gaza, was that because you don’t have or know one? I feel like this is the more important of the questions I asked. Just like with your intellectual siblings, holocaust deniers, I expect you to either put up or shut up.
It’s looks like as long as you voice out against what Israel is doing in Gaza, you are branded an antisemite… That term has since lost its meaning.
“Your boos mean nothing, I’ve seen what makes you cheer”
Yup, Israel is actively harming fighting antisemitism by diluting its meaning to “doesn’t support the government of Israel.”
I mean. Those are two different things. I don’t know how someone could disagree with it.
That’s my first thought but I know some people are very touchy on this topic. The challenge is to say something most people will agree with. It seems like some people pick a side between violence and non-violence, others pick a side between the people groups, some seem to make the two inseparable, and others make it separable.
Well, now you’re getting into people parroting talking points back so they don’t have to think about what you’re saying. I wish you luck with that battle. I’ve had it many times. Using things people feel strongly about might help; like the Afghanistan “conflict”. If someone is informed about the atrocities american’s commited and are against it, that can be likened to Israel’s treatment of Palestinians and might get them to think.
The issue is more the bad faith actors who will ignore what you say and just call you antisemetic anyway.
It would be more awesome if he went to live in Palesrine and shared his views on LGBTQ+
This is such a dumb fucking argument. I’ll never live in Palestine or most everywhere on planet earth. If some country decided to blow up entire cities in Indonesia I would be equally opposed.
Yeah so it turns out that people that are constantly being bombed back to the stone age don’t really have the bandwidth to develop progressive viewpoints. Queer Palestians die to Israeli bombs just the same as any other.
queer Palestinians die to Palestinian machetes more though.
That’s some bullshit.
Current estimates are at about 76,000 dead from Isreal’s genocide, a third of which are children. There is not 76,000 dead queer Palestinians who’ve died at the hands of other Palestinians in the last 3 years.
This is a braindead take that a 5 second Google search could solve.
today class we’re learning about population density and per capita.
Apparently not, because the population of Palestinians will always equal the population of Palestinians no matter what. You didn’t think through this.
I’m 100% positive that there are far less Palestinians right now then there were nine months ago.
Still went over your head.
The amount of Palestinians that exist right now is the number of Palestinians that exists right now. The amount of Palestinians 9 months ago is equal to the number of Palestinians 9 months ago. You’re failing to understand that the comparison here is death type not population capitas.
There is no amount of homophobia on the part of any percentage of any population that could possibly justify genocide, this specific hasbara talking point is exceptionally spineless morally bankrupt bullshit
how dare you try to apply logic to a complex political issue!
whats the logic
This guy is about to tie his hands behind his back and then shoot himself in the back of the head.
The Epstein files are not being released only because Israeli officials told Epstein secret shit.
America is controlled by Israel, Israel is a terrorist state that kills innocent civilians. Fuck you Israel!
I’ve been suicidal since I was 11. Thankfully this isn’t Reddit…
kraft is in the files, as is one of shareens managers i believe. ed has a vested interest in not upsetting KRAFT.
Kraft said in a statement shortly thereafter that Sheeran contacted him before Macklemore put out his statement to ask for a $2 million match to aid in the region.
Yes. sure he did. What a coincidence that must’ve been, and it was for double the amount.
“Ed now plans to reach out to other venue owners and our goal is to continue to work together to build bridges,” Kraft wrote.
Yes, because that will fix it… /s
ed ignoring the actual problem, he just want people to forget his association with kraft.
That “the region” wording felt very vague to me. Like, the govt. of Israel is also in the region.
glad you caught that. that’s exactly what he plans on doing it’s giving money to the people doing the killing to ‘help people in the region’
I’d wager Kraft has already surpassed that amount, just not to Palestine.
When this whole drama broke like 1 or 2 days ago, reading the headlines, I was afraid I’d have to stop listening and supporting Macklemore. The headlines were vague. I’m so happy and artist I love is not a Zionist asshole
I’m an old man who had no idea who Macklemore was until this week. This guy is fucking cool.
Yes he is. I’m from Seattle so I have a little bit of a headstart on you. But his music is not only catchy but a love letter to the city and state that birthed him. Washington state is beautiful and he really captures that.
I find it funny that on all these Ed and Macklemore posts there’s exactly 1 downvote on all the comments.
Somebody’s salty. I can almost see their expression as they go through every comment downvoting with full on “I’ll show them all” Nerd Rage coursing through their body.
I get one downvote on every single thing I comment on. someone loves me.
That one downvoter (I bet I know who it is but I don’t want to prejudice at that racist fuck):
You can look it up elsewhere, but then the downvoter wins.
From further down in the article:
Pink wrote that she was not trying to get any artist fired or silence anyone but that she took issue with Macklemore’s putting “violent images” of Israel’s military campaign in Gaza up in a stadium filled with families, then telling Jews in the audience that “it wasn’t about them.”
She’s mad that Macklemore put up pictures of the shit that the Israeli military did? But she takes no issue with what the military itself did?
But she takes no issue with what the military itself did?
That’s not what she said?
What did she say about Israel’s military actions?
Well, technically, she said that showing families the violence in Gaza is about Jewish people, not that she endorses that violence.
But also, had she just said “I don’t think children should be exposed to graphic violence”, she would’ve had a defensible point (which I don’t fully agree with, but can understand where it’s coming from, so we could at least have a conversation).
Instead she also chose to make criticism of Israel’s military actions out to be “about Jews”. So while she didn’t directly say anything about Israel’s military actions, she’s evidently concerned that showing them to children might make them think badly of Jewish people.
Which she certainly isn’t helping by propagating this “Israel = Jewish people” narrative, throwing all under the bus that don’t support the Zionist doctrine.
Maybe nothing, maybe something, but doesn’t mean she has no issue. Finding A in bad taste doesn’t mean you support B.
You can condemn the genocide committed by Israel and also not want pictures of dead people in a family event.
She easily could have said, " while the atrocities israel are committing are terrible, I find the use of graphic images at a family event wrong"
She felt it necessary for her to speak out publicly against Macklemore showing the genocide that Israel is comitting. She did not feel necessary to speak out publicly againts the genocide itself. Priorities…
Yeah, fucked up priorities, but not proof of support…
you know how often the literal Nazi leaders publicly said they were doing a genocide, and were in support of genocide? while they were doing it? this is some flawed logic bud.
Is pink now doing the holocaust?
If you are not supporting a genocide then why would you attack people who are trying to fight against said genocide?
Thousands of reasons, greed, stupidity, narcissism, …
Whataboutism.
Idiotism
Seems like a nice chap that I can align with, definitely shouldn’t be kicked off Zionist sympathisers tours for being level headed
