Last time this happened? You aren’t talking about the revolution right? Because that certainly wasn’t the last time it’s happened.
I don’t think people understand that the French Revolution largely failed because it led to Napoleon, which led France to become an Empire again…
Also, the legal system set up by the revolutiaries led to Capitalism thriving in France and other parts of Europe.
The French Revolution was sparked by a failing if the Monarchies creditors and a state bankruptcy. The revolutiaries wanted the poor to have similar opportunities of investment and land ownership that the royals had.
It’s typical that many American and European leftist can’t even read a few history books on what the Revolution was actually about and how it was a failure for modern socialism.
They just see poor people killing royalty and insert themselves as the poor revolutionary and some boomer as the monarch, it was much more complicated than that.
Bro, if you think France is going to get an emperor again you’re gunna wanna take a breather before making comments. They are protesting a government that needs to be reminded to serve its people, but until they start murdering politicians and replacing them with their own people we’re just not going to see their democracy completely wiped out.
History rhymes, absolutely, and I would be a fool to ignore possible parallels, but this just is not the same thing.
The French Revolution did not fail. It was a bourgeois revolution that overthrew the feudal government and established a capitalist system. Socialists in the modern sense were not a significant power bloc at that time; the leaders of the third estate were mostly petty bourgeoisie.
There were some successes, some failures some setbacks. It got where it was going eventually
How is that worse than what we have now? It’s only one data point. Maybe the experiment needs to be rerun.
Paris has been redesigned in the XIXth century to contain revolts: the wide avenues are hard to block with barricades , and in straight line, so it’s always visible from the main police barracks that are located on the big squares at each end. Also, since 1930, almost all strikes have to use the same route between 3 places: Republique, Bastille and Nation.
So basically, we’ve been storming the Bastille weekly for 2 centuries.
Its not impossible tho, the '68 protests had De Gaulle flee to Germany.
That was a habit with him though
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I see thanks
I love riots. Riots are good for Society. They remind the High Command Shitheads who’s really the BOSS.
Riots? It could always get a LOT worse than mere riots.
Well, yes, but first it went very badly for the students.
The Irish revolutionary, Gilles O’Teen will be there again this time around as well. And all other future times in this seemingly endless cycle! /s
Coo coo, so iust like the retirement shit a few years ago, it wont make a difference?
All protests involving Parisians happen at Place de la Bastille. It’s a large open space and traffic circle holding all kinds of public events.
It certainly is a traffic circle. I can’t imagine what must have been going through those people’s heads when they decided to just make a giant open loop that people can enter with no clear plan to exit. It’s like a highway with no lanes with houses built directly on it.
The area was cleared from the Bastille fortress-prison decades before cars appeared. It became a huge intersection for very slow pedestrian and horse traffic, surrounded by downtown style businesses.
Ok so they can make like 2 lanes for cars. Not 10.
I have know doubt you know better than elected Parisian officials! You go girl!
Take notice America
Are you saying we don’t protest? Because I’ve been to 4 protests this year and was suppressed by police at 2 of them. What am I taking note of? The fact that so many people on here get a hate boner for Americans just as much as they do for Trump?
God I’m so fucking sick of this attitude. Americans are trying to fix this. How about you go get maced and shot at by the police and then tell me how much you want to do it again? I have a sneaking suspicion that the vast majority of people with your attitude would turn tail or stay home in our exact situation.
Americans protest when it’s convenient (for the most part). The biggest evidence of that is the no kings protests. Doesn’t interfere with work or business. A true protest would do actual damage because of the lack of work being performed for the owner class.
A quarter of the working age population is functionally unemployed. They can’t afford to protest the way you want or they won’t eat, will lose their housing because there’s no social safety nets. Of the few that existed those were some of the first things to go.
Americans could petition their government representation to fix that but that representation either doesn’t care or has no power in the current system.
What you’re talking about would be, essentially, a siege with each side trying to wait out the other; and that’s assuming you could enough people together.
Let’s compare France, a country known for protest, with the US:
France population ~70 million US population ~340 million
France size ~551,000km squared US size ~9,900,000km squared
With just those two numbers we can see that France’s population is ~1/5th of the US in a country roughly 1/18th the size of the US. That’s without getting into the transportation options that are available in France that aren’t available in the US to get people to the seat of power.
There has been an ongoing campaign to weaken the power of the citizens of the US for decades and that’s not the only place. Fascism is on the rise globally.
Yep excuses. And why they win.
Thank goodness you’re not running for political office in America I guess. They already have enough people in power who like to shit on others and try to demoralize them while doing nothing to support or help.
You might fit right in quite well in Alberta though.
Yah on the weekend once every three months.
People have literately been killed by “police” in the USA while trying to protest and do something.
I’m with you, it’s not a fucking competition, we’ve got to fight to unite. And I say this a someone who’s French.
Bastille Day 2: Electric Boogaloo
Let them vape cake
Time to play some Rush
Meanwhile Americans are just fine with a pedophile rapist spending their taxes on god knows what as he removes their rights.
I don’t know that most Americans are fine with it but are kept in near dire and paralyzing financial positions. More have some of the most violent, militarized cops on the planet that will kill your dog then you for threatening the system.
Thread about France…drags the US into it. 👍
Yawn….
Oh boy. Here come the angry Americans.
‘Akshully we voted and wrote some letters so we tried. You know how hard it is to actually do something? Its, like, really hard. I havent been personally shot yet so its really not that bad anyway.’
Yawn…. Not angry kiddo. Just providing contrast to how France is doing it right in comparison… I wouldn’t expect you to understand. So… move along. The comment wasn’t meant for your consumption.
Go be angry somewhere else.
Doesn’t he agree with you?
Im agreeing with you you donkey. Can you not read?
Read the first line and predicted the rest, my bad. Apologies.
France is denser and makes it easier to organize. America is frickin massive
It also helps that you can go protest for a few days and not get fired.
Ah so locally we see the same, like in the massive, dense cities?
I almost lost count whenever france decide enough is enough, bringing their ol reliable to detach someone body part, figure it doesn’t work in long term huh.
Either I don’t understand what you’re trying to say, or you don’t understand how politics and organising works.
I’m not trying to explain about how politic works, i just make another form of word and sentence about straw that broke camel backs using topic of this thread as inspiration.
Beautiful.
