Bold of you to think anyone will be listening after the first slide.
how it go
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No, you don’t. Shhhh.
Why would you … use windows?
Part of the time for money exchange program is using the computer that they give you…
Probably OP’s work computer. Most people don’t get to choose.
Do you have a few minutes to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds?
If I don’t find an anti-AI kernel fork I might be moving to NetBSD soon. That sucks, I hate moving to a new OS.
Linus has always prioritized results over ideological purity. Which is why Linux runs the world whereas BSD is still just a niche project.
Clearly he doesn’t care about results because he slop coded with antigravity rather than reading documentation for a python side-project. I imagine his younger self would be cussing his older self out for shipping things he literally doesn’t understand.
The reason for his actions are much simpler: he got paid. He gets paid from the linux foundation which receives a lump sum from AI companies. In 2024 Linus said AI was just Hype, but then the foundation received millions in funds from the AI companies.
If he cared about results he would have written the damn things himself.
I’m no vibecoder but between 2024 and now, LLMs also got much better. It might not have been the money that changed his mind.
LLMs either hit a wall or got worse, so no.
As much as I’d like that to be true, this is unfortunately not the case…
You’re going to argue that some new never before seen trove of uncontaminated training data was discovered? Perhaps you think the AI Scaling Laws don’t exist? Businesses that adopted AI dropped it or went out of business not long after, it’s as useless today as it was in the 1980s.
I’m not totally convinced that his behavior in the past is a reflection on what is to come. He is at this point still refusing to answer questions about licensing LLM generated code and such and has apparently been obfuscating LLM commits. That doesn’t sound like somebody who is committed to results so much as it sounds like somebody giving into AI brainrot.
He’s also human, for example he hypothetically could use AI to offset a disability like dementia - a totally reasonable emotional response, but also not who I want controlling global cyber security.
Last I heard though all AI commits were a separate branch, I wasn’t aware of any sneakiness.
That and BSD was almost BSD™ by AT&T™.
Lost all its momentum at probably its most valuable growth opportunity to a single dev.
A lot of people very recently are already jumping ship from Linux so it appears a new most valuable growth opportunity has arrived.
I’m not sure I’d call permissive licensing “ideological purity” compared to copyleft.
Frankly, I think BSD loses because corporations are legally allowed to take and never give back.
Just opened the thread to make sure someone was spreading the good word.
i can backup my home computer, reinstall the entire OS, all apps, restore all the data, faster than a single Windows Update takes on my work machine
Yeah but Linux isn’t viable for me because [very obscure bug that was fixed in 2014]
Would you look at the time! Tux o’clock already!
Didn’t he jump on the AI bandwagon?
No, he said AI may be used for assistance in kernel commits, but the same code quality and comprehensibility as before AI is required.
He cares about the output, not it you got some code snippet from ai or stackoverflow.
That’s a “yes, but”, not a “no”.
And AI code is intrinsically bad because is fundamentally impossible to understand (yeah, I mean literally). You just can understand what you actually put your effort to comprehend, reason and write by yourself. They’re just delegating their reasoning to a machine.
Also, Why not LLMs?
AI is just stolen code. It’s often similar quality to human output
I once tried to remake one of my projects using AI. When I gave it the requirements, it damn near recreated the project exactly how I made it. It was probably referencing my exact project, which would have been its training data, but it was a bit weird how well it did it
It was not, “fundamentally impossible to understand” either figuratively or literally
Their computer is installing updates, sure they have a few minutes.
Me with my media library laptop on 58 days of uptime, chugging along like nothing is wrong
Our Linus, who art from Finland, Hallowed be thy kernel.
He’s been in California for decades.
Iirc he’s in Oregon.
But he’s from Finland.
Linux users in their natural habitat, obscure online forums.
Observe how they nitpick minor technicalities between themselves, a hallmark sign of affection among their kind.
I haven’t used Windows in years, but it’s kind of funny to remember because my Linux machines take at most 5 minutes to update (even with a hundred packages to update), and only require a restart if something important happens, and even in that case I can postpone the reboot.
Good luck anyway!
Windows machines frequently do updates without a reboot nowadays and you can usually postpone an update to a more convenient time.
The problem is that when an update that requires a restart is waiting, it changes the standard restart button into one that does an update and restart. You can often fall into muscle memory and accidentally trigger an update.
When combined with the fact that you quite often get problems that go away with a reboot you can easily get yourself into OP’s position where they’re waiting for an update to finish at a really inconvenient time.
Nowadays, a lot of Linux distributions like Ubuntu, for example, will do an update and then tell you that you should reboot, even if a reboot isn’t strictly necessary. You can still ignore and postpone, but I think most users will see this as very similar to Windows.
Except for the fact that you can still use your computer while it’s updating. And it only takes one reboot (which takes the same amount of time as any other reboot) to apply the updates. And you have to actually tell your computer that you want to reboot. It’s really not like windows at all.
Not even doing an A/B partition kexec update scheme with VM live migration for all critical services??
Oh wait I’m a stereotype
Noice.
Remember this day when you purchase your next computer.
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OP is getting fucked alright.
I remember during the last big win11 update i defined active hours which was recommended by Microsoft to do so it only updates outside of work hours.
Only for it to get reset without notification so all workstations started updating in the middle of work when left idle
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It’s mad how many times I’ve seen people fail their tests in uni because of windows updates
And how many?
Mad.
In rooms of 70 students, at least one would lose half their test time to an update. There were 8 of these sessions per day
ease yourself into linux with ubuntu which has an install for most of the same software as windows uses and when youre ready you can go full FOSS on a deeper linux os.
no need to suffer like this.
I recently got a job which required I use a work computer, which uses Windows and every ms service, some of us do have to suffer like this…
Luckily i work-around that handicap by installing virtualbox and working inside linux vms all day (my project’s the only multi-os one). I still get forced host upgrades though.
