I could have sworn I read something similar a few weeks ago …
anything out of science daily should be taken with a healthy dose of skepticism. Missing way too many details for y’all to get excited about some new type of trip.
named after the miniature inhabitants of “Gulliver’s Travels,” who stand just 6 inches tall
Ok, suuuuuper awkward thing to say here but… my penis is precisely one Lilliputian tall, which I understand to be just about average
Also, in Romanian, “puța” means penis
Are there other languages with a similar word for penis? Did Jonathan Swift know this? Was this deliberate? Are the Lilliputians really just “Lil’ dicks” ?
EDIT: Has John Oliver already done this? I feel like John Oliver has already done this
Is it hallucination or ability?
The trip to Lilliput sounds fun. The return trip through the ER, not so much.
Ive done enough drugs in my life to kill a rhino and in all my trips ive never hallucinated more than visual trails and lights. This has me intrigued.
I was at a party ~25 years ago and there were kittens running around. At some point, it became unclear to me which of the kittens were real. Some definitely were, but I was sometimes unsure if what was running around me was actual kitten or hallucinated kitten. That’s probably the furthest gone I’d been and I still was able to understand that this was the situation. I also did a lot of stuff back then (and don’t touch anything these days).
The most intense hallucination I’ve ever experienced by a wide margin was from salvia, which is legal for some fucking reason. Literally everything I could see and hear wasn’t real. I guess I’m glad I did it but I think I’m not going to do it again. Thankfully is only lasts a few minutes.
Before reading this, I was going to share something about salvia as well. Its the only drug where I had actual real life hallucinations. Once after smoking it, my living room was filled with friends in a party/birthday setting (I was actually alone at that moment).
Man I just thought I can’t imagine doing salvia alone. Then came to the realization you’re basically doing salvia alone every single time. With other halucinagynics you often have shared hallucinations or at least thoughts and experiences with the people you’re partaking with but with salvia the minute you hit it you’re on your own on a very personal journey.
I made an edit describing my trip
Man it’s always layers of reality peeling away or something like that with Salvia, I’ve heard that same sort of trip story many times. It’s wild that so many have similar experiences with a hallucinogen.
I was an apple sliding along a tray in a cafeteria.
Well lemon Tek 4.5g if mushrooms and start playing “the wall” album in the dark once you really start to trip and you’ll experience a lot of visuals and feelings. Like, holy hell. I was wore out from the emotional rollercoaster. It also felt like 5 hours went by, even though the album is only like an hour twenty.
benadryl causes solid hallucinations at high doses, but it’s also miserable, so maybe don’t
Have you ever smoked salvia extract? That will alter reality
I have not and I’m planning to keep it that way
How could a chemical agent control the hallucination so specifically? I mean, distorting perception of size makes sense, but tiny colorful people?
A lot of drugs have common shared experiences. It’s why you know it’s nothing but turtles all the way down.
Really very few of them when you consider how many drugs there are. Shared experiences can be similar, but rarely duplicate details like lots of tiny, brightly colorful people. I mean, two friends who just saw a monster movie together could both hallucinate the monster, but this isn’t going to happen to diverse groups living far apart.
is there like local stories about those tiny humans that could influence people mind?
Or again, it doesn’t give hallucinations but just the ability to see the tiny people, that’s the most logical conclusion!
Are they blue?
The visuals I get from good ol’ fashioned cubes come in the context of a severe and obvious intoxication. I know my jeans aren’t actually turning into circuitry because it’s quite clear to me that I’m on drugs. I don’t think I would react very favorably to seeing hundreds of tiny humans while expecting to be sober.
That’s the scary difference between psychedelics and hallucinogens: in the former you’re aware of your experience, but in the latter you may think that you’re actually speaking to your dead grandmother (I’m looking at you, datura).
what an odd name your grandmother had
I have so many questions, the article focuses on the mushroom builogy and moves past the hallucinations pretty quick. What are these tiny people doing, do they see you, are they people or something else, do you get egfects as other hallucinations or just the tiny people? The effects of LSD and mushrooms are similar enough you recognize the sensation, is this something wholly different? I need answers!
The animated TV show Common Side Effects has a similar underlying plot with people who take a specific shroom. They haven’t exposed what they do, but everyone who takes it sees them.
Season 2 in late January
Also, if two people in the same room eat the undercooked mushrooms do they see the same population of little people or different populations of little people. If it’s a shared experience this raises some serious existential questions, otherwise I’d chalk it up to brains are crazy.
I want it so hard to be that everyone is seeing the same thing and those little fools are really there!!!
It’s BS. There are no trip reports. I know the connesuierr drug community would buy this just to attempt seeing the little people. Can’t find a single person who says “I did this and it was….”
Right? It says it’s a common food that has a warning to cook it for a specific amount of time to avoid the hallucinations. It must be a horrible experience where you get crazy sick and hallucinate, otherwise lots of people would be doing if recreationally.
Apparently the hallucinations appear whether your eyes are open or closed and last for up to a week, sometimes more depending on dosage. And those are from people who ate some that were undercooked, so presumably most of the psychoactive material had been neutralized.
It doesn’t sound like a pleasant experience.
I mean, that never stopped the good folx on https://www.erowid.org/
Yeah it really seems unlikely that a chemical agent could make different people hallucinate the same thing. This really sounds like stealth marketing.
buy a shroom, report back with results
I’ve heard DMT described as seeing little cities or a village of workers working away.
I wonder if it’s similar.
I’ll stop short of saying that everyone who describes DMT that way is a fool (drugs can affect people differently, and I’ve never taken it orally so maybe I’m missing something), but the “machine elf” stuff is just nonsense. It’s just your brain making insane fractal patterns that fold in on themselves and shit. It’s pretty cool, but there are no “entities” waiting for you.
Common Side Effects
Can the tiny people see us too?
The difference with them is that they can see us all the time.
Uhh… All the time? Even when I’m…?
Garak: Especially when you’re…
Oooh yes they can…
The second season of Common Side Effects is only three months away! I’m not normally that interested in animated shows, but I’m very excited for this one.
If you’ve not seen it, the first (and only, sadly) season of Scavengers Reign is also excellent.
Scavengers Reign is also excellent.
It is! Really a must watch for anyone who likes old European style animated science fiction (Mœbius and the like), I’d say.
Reminded me of The Masters of Time, which I think might have traumatized me a bit after catching it on TV as a (probably too young) kid, and only recently rediscovered, from a YouTube video of all places, after having forgotten about it for decades.
MildlyExtremely InterestingI find this sketchy. There would be reports on erowid or bluelight and there are none. I think this is bs
It’s sketchy because there is no way to force a given sort of hallucination.
It hasn’t been widely available in the west and needs to be rather fresh. Heat destroys this particular effect of the mushroom,for example.
Heat destroys all the other trippy mushrooms, too.
What exactly is destroyed by heat? Is there a compound in the mushroom that has been identified?
In the article they mention so specific substance has been isolated. Though, there are now 2 (or 3) varieties of mushroom each from a different location that provide similar hallucinations, so it might be easier to find the substance if it is shared by all the varieties and if there aren’t a lot of other chemicals in common.
They do know it’s not psilocybin or LSD (in these mushrooms).
Well lsd isn’t found in nature, but it is synthesized from ergot, a grain fungus.
Yes, even further than that, there is no known hallucinogen in these mushrooms. Identifying the mechanism could open up some interesting possibilities.
Side note, the onset of the effects is 12-24 hours after the ingestion of the raw or undercooked mushrooms. This delayed onset has resulted in the hypothesis that the active compound is actually a prodrug that gets converted into something else that’s psychoactive as we metabolize it.
I’ve been following this story for a while and find it fascinating. Can’t wait for Hamilton Morris to do a video on it.
Psychedelics are about set and setting. Tell people what they expect to see and they will see that.
Yeah, uh, not so much. I’ve heard of plenty of mushroom and acid trips that I’ve never experienced. Would be nice though, I’d love to know what the color Purple sounds like.
I think it hits people differently. I had a acid trip once where it was an out of body experience. I had like daredevil vision at a pink floyd tribute concert. I could see the entire venue from any perspective from where i was standing. Sounds crazy but that was my experience.
IIRC, this one in particular causes the exact same effect no matter the cultural background of the subject, even when the subject is going in blind to the exact effects.
