For example, if a wealthy person only wants to socialize with and date other very wealthy people, how would they know? Like, for example, what if LeBron James or Tyler Perry only wanted to be friends with other wealthy people and wanted their kids to only date and marry people from other wealthy families? How would they know the people they meet also come from multi-millionaire families? I’m sure if a random billionaire met someone at a club or social event, they wouldn’t introduce themselves by saying, “I’m X, Y, and Z, and I’m worth this much money.” What if a son of a multi-millionaire wanted to date a woman who came from a wealthy family? Also, if he meets a woman, how would he know if she comes from money or not? Like I said, she wouldn’t say, “I come from generation wealth” right off the bat.
I don’t know wealthy people like that, they just don’t meet non-wealthy people, and not because they don’t want to, it’s just their bubble
I mean honestly it depends on the wealthy person. I know several multi-millionaires I know several people that are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. A lot of these people are quite social which enables them to have quite a big influence on quite a few things overall. Admittedly I’ve never met any of the billionaire class or anybody that is that close to being that rich. But you do have to admit that since that class is so small guaranteed they have people around them and people they know and people that hang out with that are nowhere near that level of influence.
My point was that I don’t know wealthy people who don’t want to hang out with less-wealthy people (not homelesses, just middle-class or maybe a bit lower) because of their financials.
They go hang out in incredibly expensive country clubs and on their yachts and at elite universities and prep schools, polo camps and air conditioned safaris.
I mean, this is what my cousins did. It was creepy, till my I got in one little fight and my mom got scared, and said you’re movin with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air.
I had rich grandparents and great grandparents and they didn’t do any of that. The only “rich” thing I remember them doing is going hunting.
Most of the stuff in this thread is based on fiction and certain types of nouveau riche assholes.
Most of the stuff in this thread
We probably need to talk about what one’s definition of “rich” is. I suspect the commenters in this thread are all over the place.
When I was growing up, my idea of rich was private schools and McMansions and overseas vacations and new BMWs for 16th birthdays, basically the kind of lifestyle accessible to only the top 5%.
But now, 20+ years later, I’ve been around 0.1%ers, desensitized to upper middle class stuff that the things I used to believe were signifiers of wealth barely register for me anymore. I’ve also been around descendants of former 0.1%ers who carry some cultural baggage from their families despite having “only” ordinary upper middle class income.
I read this thread and wonder where each commenter sits in how they evaluate richness.
I mean, what’s mentioned in this thread is what rich people I know do. Plus saw a lot of it in Palm Beach.
My grandparents never lived rich… my grandfather’s father did build a fortune in Long Island but most of it was lost during the 1929 crash and subsequent Depression. However, what they did do was save and invest and land values were inexpensive in the late 30s so they bought a house for $3K a few blocks from the bay. They always lived really modestly and volunteered, worked civil service type jobs, required all their kids to work after school and really just socked away and invested every dime they could. When my grandmother retired, they bought a condo in Florida and became snowbirds. Our family still has that condo. After my uncle died (he was left the house for his lifetime), his brother sold it for over $600K. The rest of the Trust after my grandparents died was divided among the brothers and survivors of the ones that were already gone. They were never Hamptons rich though.
only wanted to be friends with other wealthy people
Never go out to public places. Never go alone anywhere. Meet people mostly at private places with invitations, or maybe for example at charity events where you pay 5 figures just to get inside.
and wanted their kids to only date and marry people from other wealthy families?
Have your kids at private schools and the most expensive universities.
They meet up on Epstien’s island.
usually at expensive events which are privates, like price per plate stuff.
People generally hang out with other people of their general socioeconomic class, so it doesn’t take much guesswork. Usually, they just have nothing in common with poorer people (not the literal poors, upper middle class is poor to them), don’t go to the same places that poorer people go to, and unfortunately, poorer people generally tend to be less attractive than rich people due to lack of access to cosmetic care. The cosmetic care includes skincare, dental work, and I’ve even seen growth hormones as soon as elementary school.
One last point, multimillionaire and billionaire circles are extremely small because, as you can imagine, there’s not that many of them! They tend to know way too much about each other, so if you do happen to be poorer and run in their circles, they’ll either know and/or you’re smart enough to be playing their game.
poorer people generally tend to be less attractive than rich people due to lack of access to cosmetic care.
Sorry, but why is every single rich old person I see on TV literally looks like goul. .
Maybe old people just look like that? I went to a rich kid college and they were certainly more attractive on average. Everyone’s teeth were white and straight, people’s skin and hair were beautifully maintained, clothing (including sweats) were well fitting and flattering. Glasses were flattering. No one was making due with anything, they just had whatever they needed.
Wealthy people don’t mingle with the rest of us. They literally live in a totally different world, and you ain’t invited unless you can clean their toilets for cheap, or give them massages on their private Caribbean islands and shut your trap.
There is a flipside here as well which is that when you’re wealthy everyone constantly asks you for money. You start doubting that any social interaction is genuine. Is this person hanging out with you because they like you or because they want your money?
Then don’t be ostentatious with your wealth. Don’t advertise it. And if you can’t do that, then maybe don’t get so wealthy.
Its probably a hot take but I do think everyone deserves empathy.
You don’t have to be. If anyone finds out it spreads.
On internet nobody knows you’re a billionaire
codewords like “skiing”
Where I live in Germany, skiing is a middle class activity.
That makes sense. For Europeans. For british and americans it’s the hallmark of upper class, as are pursuing sports like mountain biking or horse riding. When 2 or more people like that want you gone from a conversation, they’ll start talking about mountain biking or skiing together.
Depends on where you live. Mountain biking and skiing are very middle class in Colorado and Utah.
Finland, and same. Skiing during winter is about as normal as hiking during summer.
I’ve been seeing this year that the cost of a flight from the US to France, mountain ticket for a week in the Alps, and lodging there is cheaper than staying domestic and skiing/lodging in the Rockies for the same time. The majority of US residents would still have to fly to the Rockies anyway. I didn’t verify which exact mountains or level of lodging as I don’t know how, but, presumably, whatever is in the Alps is nicer than the Rockies offerings for the price.
To clarify, skiing is accessible to middle class, but when it’s a personality, it’s a signal of being very comfortably middle class at the least.
Living in a ski town in the US is fucking wild. Either you work at the ski resort, work at the actually essential functions of the town like water and power, or you’re leaving for Cali or Dubai once the snow melts.
For the online side of things, there are actually social platforms designed specifically for wealthy people. For instance, there’s Raya, which is an invite-only dating app that only allows celebrities as members. The platform was kept “secret” by making it accessible only through an iPhone app, whose description in the App Store was intentionally vague and boring, to discourage any plebs from bothering to install it. Raya is just one of many secret “elite” social platforms that most of us have never even heard of. The wealthy live in a completely different reality from us.
Honestly, I don’t see much issue with that, the amount of people with some unhealthy parasocial attachment to celebrities kind of makes it a good idea to limit the userbase
They sniff each other’s butts
There’s an app called ‘Rich Kids’
It requires $1,000.00/month fee. People use it just so they can communicate with other rich folks.
I thought you were joking. Fuck, man. Why didn’t I think of that?
I know people where even that would be considered cheap and for the poors.
The subscription for the HOA app where I work is 25k a week.
The sub… For the app. Not even the HOA fees. JUST the app. Monthly these people are spending thousands a month for just the privilege to live where they do.
Probably because you don’t know anyone who would pay for something like that.
You have to spend time around rich people to come up with an idea like that.
Epstein got a job at an exclusive private school. He was ‘only’ a teacher’ but it gave him access to the ultra wealthy.
Ronald Reagan did the same. He was a mid-level actor who got a gig as a spokesman for a giant corporation. He made sure he was always the poorest guy in the room. People began to offer him stock tips and cut him in for a tiny percentage of multi-million dollar deals.
If we’re not talking about the super rich, because there is only a few dozen of them, and they have their own parallel universe… it’s usually mannerisms, language clues (in articulation and content), but of course also signals like expensive clothing and accessories. Also the places where they meet. This opens the door for all kinds of grifters who emulate behaviour and style to get into those circles. Jeffrey Epstein is an (in)famous example for this.
My grandma was very wealthy. She wore tweeds to death. If she’d still been alive she’d have looked down on people showing off their wealth with clothing and accessories.
There are about 2700 billionaires in the world. There are probably about 10,000 centimillionaires in the U.S. alone.
Especially if you include family members, it’s not just a few dozen.
If there is a speck of avocado toast on your shirt they know that you are part of the club.
They don’t. they are people jus like anyone else. They hang out with people who are genuine and figure out who isn’t fast. They have limited numbers of people they want as friends just like the rest of us (you run out of time to spend with them if there are too many).
The genuine is why they hang out with only rich. A few are not and they seek out the rich and famious, so as protection the rich hide. too many people make real death (rape, kidnapping…) threats to risk being easy to find.
but in the end they are humans just like the rest of us seeking genuine friendship.
You know very different rich people than I do.
A lot of rich people actually try to live a normal looking life. Stealth wealth, and you might never find them until you get invited to their house.
Their house will be nicer than average, probably not crazy, but just a lot more than a typical person would have. They will have things like fancy light fixtures and switches that don’t look totally normal, the furniture will look normal but if you look closer you’ll only find high quality wood construction, tongue and groove, etc. You should also notice things are probably cleaner than a typical house (because regular house cleaner), everything works, and major appliances are newer generally. They are rich so they don’t have to make any budget trade offs.
These people might have insane net worth and they are trying to down play it because they know how bad it is for them when they are obviously wealthy for so many reasons.
Ostentatious wealth signals are usually sign of a HENRY or a striver, those people typically aren’t actually wealthy they have a lot of debt.
Their house will be nicer than average, probably not crazy, but just a lot more than a typical person would have.
I hear Michael Bublé lives in a modest house he inherited, and he’s a great neighbour. But he seems as un-Hollywood as people can be, so he may be a bad example.
HENRY?
High something Not Rich Yet — people who have a shit-ton of income but blow it all on whatever instead of hoarding it properly
High Earning Not Rich Yet
I don’t think this answer truly internalizes how some of the ultra rich live. Yes, many are living a normal looking life, going to their jobs and doing a lot of the same activities that the upper middle class do. They generally eat at the same restaurants, have the same hobbies, and enjoy the same television shows that the rest of the middle class does. Often they go to the same live events (sports, concerts, plays, stand up comedy) that middle class people do, and often don’t bother with luxury boxes or things like that. They’re members at the same gyms, and might plot out the same run trails as normal people.
It’s just that they tend to fly private instead of commercial, stay at very nice luxury hotels unique to that particular location rather than the chains you’ve heard of. They have multiple homes. They’re members of clubs that require a lot more money to keep up in. They have lots of paid staff, both seen and unseen, smoothing over their day to day lives, washing dishes and laundry, maintaining houses and cars and landscaping, making reservations and doing paperwork on their behalf, etc.
The form of stealth wealth isn’t that they’re all among us doing normal things, with no obvious indicators of wealth. It’s that they often aren’t even around us to begin with. So the sheer amount of time that they’re around non-rich people, and actively interacting with non-rich people, may be a tiny portion of their time. Even if they do a lot of the same stuff we do, and go to a lot of the same places we do. They do it in ways that don’t necessarily interact with us directly.
That’s a fair take, vacations are for sure a place where the rich splurge, but at those status type hotels you will also find a lot of not rich but affluent folks as well so it’s harder to be sure just because you’re there that you’re interacting with a truly wealthy person.
Kinda depends on the price of the place, right? A $500/night hotel might have a few upper middle class folks on a splurge (a honeymoon, some kind of points-based play on their credit card, etc.). A $2000/night place filters out the merely rich and leaves only the ultra rich. And a $10,000/night place isn’t even accessible as a bucket list item for even the 1% but not 0.1% types.
If you’re hanging out at the pool or some kind of lounge reserved for hotel guests at a place like that, you’re gonna have a pretty high probability of running into money.
I have stayed at my share of 2k+ hotels and I can promise you not everyone at these is rich. It filters yes, but there are definitely aspiring people who aren’t good with their money there too.
I’ll defer to your personal experience, but when I walk into a place like that (usually as a guest of someone who is actually staying there) I’m always like “ok I don’t belong here.”
I make good money but also don’t think I’d physically be able to swing some of the spending required at places like that. Like, I just wouldn’t have the funds in my bank account.
