Sort of unrelated but what is Quebec like to live in? I ask because my wife and I may take refuge there in couple of months with the way things are going here in the states. I don’t speak French and the only language that I speak, besides English, is Spanish.
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Québec is very Nice to live in. We expect immigrants to learn french, and keep religions to themselves. All religions. Catholics have it easier because of our history, but still priests dont go proletyzing un school anymore. Se are largely socialist democrats. Way left of wathever is left un thé usa. The indépendant mouvement is currently gaining ground but i dont expect it to win indépendance while Trump ils un power.
Wild you type with an accent.
I like it
Quebec is notoriously difficult for immigrants to Canada. Highly recommend heading toward Toronto or Ottawa instead
It’s also difficult for other Canadians visiting from other providences.
Hell, it’s difficult for other Canadians when they visit us. One of my rudest interactions in the service industry was interacting with a Quebecker couple in Ontario. They were outraged that I didn’t understand French.
Try to learn French and don’t shove religious beliefs in our face. That’s about it.
Though our current government is trying to scapegoat immigrants for their own incompetence. I’ll give you that. We’re kicking them out next term however, we promise!
Yah, don’t get me wrong, I’m not talking about the people, I’m talking specifically about the Quebeçois govt being super strict with immigrants they allow in. I am Quebeçois through heritage so this is not coming from any place of judgment, just how things are to get in these days sadly
Ç makes an “s” sound, like in garçon. C before o makes a “k” sound.
What about Montréal?
Depends where. Most places around Montreal and Laval are pretty bilingual. The further you get away and eastward (3 rivières, Quebec City, etc. ) the more French it gets, even as close as 30 minutes out you might find there’s no English speaking folks at all, you will still be alright at most tourist destinations though. Not sure how it gets more westward towards Ontario.
Am i the only one that finds this terrifying as a pedestrian? All the people in the video had to stop when they arrived at the intersection and wait for a car to allow them to cross. If someone were crossing here unaware and started crossing immediately, this thing could hit them anywhere up to the face. And that is if it doesn’t have enough force to make one loose their balance or straight up catapult them. I refuse to believe this thing is actually just active and without supervision. I think they just deployed this thing for an afternoon to get the shots and coached the pedestrians. I find this anything but brilliant
It’s a controlled film set…Every single face you see is a unionized actor, any “candid” feelings are purely manufactured for effect.
Yeah obviously this is a film set. That’s what PSAs are, little government adverts. They didn’t deploy this on the street and they’re not suggesting this as a solution to a problem. It’s a fun little sort of advertisement that has been created to try and make a point.
It’s like the Swedish advert from the other day.
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The pedestrians also walk across the actual crosswalk area, over the mechanism, showing no concern that those magic stripes could come back down and smush them at any moment. There are a handful of things that take this out of the realm of realism but for me it was mainly that—especially the lady carrying her baby under them
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Put a stop sign up. No need for the ridiculously complex system. A simple stop sign would do.
But the crosswalk is a stop sign if a pedestrian is using it in most modern traffic codes, and even if you are only about to use it (visible intent to cross), 80 countries agree that is enough to give you right of way on a crosswalk. Visually a crosswalk is just completely unmistakable, so what would adding another stop sign do?
If those rules are unclear, maybe trafic education is lacking? Or maybe repercussions are not enough, maybe increase the fines or chance to get fined?
Interestingly Qatar, Macao and Singapore place the burden of safety on the pedestrians while crossing a crosswalk(very cool for pedestrians, famously lacking about 1 to 2 tons of steel cage to protect them during a collision with a car).
Because psychologically people are far less likely to run a stop than roll through a crosswalk with someone still in it, you know there’s a big fine for blowing a stop vs failing to yield which, plainly in this very video clip, nobody is likely to get ticketed for. And you completely sidestepped the maintenance and cost issues with this system. Guaranteed this thing is broken quickly and often.
Whatever. Y’all got some messed up logic.
I’m not advocating for this system anywhere, just that crosswalks should be more then enough in a lot of circumstances. Clearly, it’s not in Quebec.
Your statement that rolling a stop sign is less likely then a crosswalk seems crazy to me. They are both a stop sign. Both fines are very expensive here.
If they can ignore the crosswalk, they can ignore stop sign. Raised crosswalk is significantly better, it both work as a crosswalk and a road bump, which people will have to slow down to prevent damage to their vehicles. Also this is ad campaign if you haven’t notice, it isn’t real.
Because no one ever ignores stop signs, especially when they think they’re useless
There is no perfect system. This ridiculous and complex system is a maintenance nightmare, and following your logic, it’s just as possible someone will hit it.
This is not a “system,” it’s a PSA campaign. These aren’t installed anywhere, they were just put there to make the ads.
If there’s a stop sign you’d need to come to a stop even if there’s no pedestrians at the cross walk. If cars would stop when there’s a pedestrian then they only need to stop when there’s a pedestrian.
As someone who seldom drives, sure put up a stop sign. But it would be better for drivers if it didn’t have to come to that.
This ridiculous pop-up crosswalk is a rube goldberg stop sign. Overly complex and definitely is something that will take plenty of maintenance to keep clear and operating correctly. Imagine if all or part were to fail in the “up” position. The only benefit is operation on-demand vs a small inconvenience to drivers and a large increase in safety to pedestrians.
For the purposes of this discussion, a stop sign is easily the correct solution and a minor inconvenience. Either that, or station an officer there randomly and rake in the ticket fees for failing to yield to a pedestrian in the crosswalk.
They need proper bollards.
Some places know their drivers and have some serious barriers popping up.
There shouldn’t be any barriers at railway crossings. Let natural selection win. Do we really want a future full of people who don’t have the brains to give way to a train?
The barriers are to guard against the delays, traffic jams and paperwork a crash would cause.
And the trauma of the train driver hitting the car.
A car on the tracks can cause the train to derail, potentially killing many people.
I kind want to see what that does to a car that doesn’t stop. Probably rips their front wheels off
Just need a bigger car, then it’s fine
Holy shit how many idiots had to turn themselves into pancakes for this level of barriers to be justified? Insanity.
I can already hear the carbrainrotten screaming “But thats dangerous, what if i run into it” as if the danger wasnt their own fault for going too fast and not yielding.
They might get a few scratches from those flimsy flexible plastics but it’s not dangerous.
They’ll definitely compassion about the possibility for scratches screaming, “that could damage my property!” though.
Make them metal bars that rise up, like those that are placed at the entrance of some stores to deter vehicular raid. That will quickly make them re-evaluate.
Yeah make them reinforced barriers.
Bollards
Thank you! Learned a new word.
I’d be more worried about them coming back down on pedestrians.
Yeah ofc this specific implementation was just supposed to be an art piece i guess. In practice you just have to use those concrete pillars or ramps that come out of the ground.
These are just for the ad. They don’t exist in the wild.
Yes of course, these would never hold up to any regulatory standards.
Carry a brick.
I was expecting this to be the “carry a brick”-trick.
Only enforcement will help. And consequences.
There are plenty of structural changes that can help.
Raised crosswalks are a major one.I hate those, you have to know where they are. We need to develop some standard way for marking them, so drivers know ahead of time what’s coming. And we have to re-mark them before the paint or whatever fades. We want drivers to have reason to decide for themselves to slow down and be alert for other road users
This could be a lot more effective than a gimmick like this video, while lasting longer and requiring less maintenance
It’s pretty easy to tell where they are. They’re at intersections.
In NYC you’ll get a ticket if you stop for pedestrian crossings. I got a ticket for stoping and letting a pedestrian cross the road.
There is no pedestrian crossing in NYC that is not either signed or signalled, so there is zero ambiguity about when you are supposed to stop. I’m guessing you are leaving out part of the story and very curious what the actual citation was. Regardless, your first sentence is blatant misinformation, please be careful about how you phrase things.
Which law does that break?
“Gotta fill my quota”
In Illinois pedestrians ALWAYS have the right of way. So not stopping for a crosswalk is a good way to see if there’s a cop lurking nearby.
Good idea to have one fall guy do that before commending a drug deal.
Good idea, but cops here travel in groups of 2 or more cars.
The taxi drivers are dicks, they lay on the horn the second the light turns green, good luck driving a stick in that hellscape.
Imagine if all painted infrastructure did this haha.
Right at the end there it shows a side effect of this installation that by itself is useful in bringing the cars to a reasonable speed when approaching the crosswalk every time, not just when there’s a pedestrian: the crossing is raised.
Off the top of my head I can’t remember how common raised crossings are in Montréal, but they are effective. This demonstration is quite fun though, I was expecting a bunch of body guards to pop out and create a wall across the roadway and the instant fence caught me off guard.
Just For Laughs gags meets traffic engineering.
Raised crosswalks weren’t too common in most burroughs of Montréal when I left, but alternative road surfaces for slower zones we’re gaining popularity.
3-2-1, random quebec bashing.
Québec is awesome and I’m glad the québécois stuck up for their culture so hardcore otherwise the English would have turned it into Canada’s Louisiana, a pale shadow of the French culture that once was
Except that it will take much more than this to ‘motivate’ any car brain here to actually stop. Those stopping for pedestrian crossings here are the exception. So much so that some towns “don’t know what to do” about it and ask pedestrians to wave orange flags to cross busy streets.
We have those where I live. Crosswalk compliance is decent here, but these don’t get anyone to stop who wasn’t going to stop anyway, and they get stolen all the time.
Carry a closed umbrella and hold it out in front of you as you approach the crossing.
This triggers the car brain’s panic button, since it would scratch their paint if they hit it, which is much, much worse than endangering a human.I had to calm myself down when I realized how right you were and how fucked up that is.
I’m sorry if this uncalms you again, but I find it hilarious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ0HBd_u-Fs
Really shows that drivers do see you approaching a crosswalk but just decide to ignore you, unless you equalize the power imbalance.
Will be broken after a few winters. Frozen water is not friend.
They won’t last long enough to be damaged by ice before someone drives into them.
It’s only there to produce the video.
Everyone shown here, including the drivers, are acting.
No one suggests implementing this for real.
