Here’s the process as I understand it (please correct my errors):
- USA likes Israel, a lot for some reason
- “Israel” attacks Iran. This whole thing is being done with the USA’s airplanes though.
- Why does the USA love Israel so much?
- What’s the logic here? Not just the conspiracy. But why now? Why at all? Is Israel gaining something that I’m not seeing? Destabilization the main goal? What’s the USA gaining here?
To distract from the Epstein files and make Trump’s handlers money on oil.
It s not a lie, but its a very unhelpful answer. I don’t know why you’re being upvoted.
It answers the title, says why now, and refers to the POTUS and his “tendency” to act on personal rather than national interest. I don’t think it was that unhelpful, though of course it’s a simplification.
Not really, based on what trump has said before, it’s very clear the only reason he’d start a war is to distract from domestic troubles.
This is a great question and one that is worth diving into a bit, but not necessarily by me. There are a plethora of answers here with some insightful and some less so backgrounds. I suggest that you dig into some outside sources and potentially you can work through the complexity of the answer as history often is.
I’m sure others have some great references as well, but given this crowd I’d suggest some youtube videos. I also suggest some recently written long form articles in foreign affairs which is always good for understanding context, as well as a few books.
RealLifeLore:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8kSGH4I8Ps Why Iran Regime is Failing (Water, economics, and more.)
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3l5bCGjqLE Why It’s So Hard to Defeat Iran Militarily
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmvB7KW7WJA How The US & Iran Became Arch-Enemies
Related:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oytfhLUy0Fg How Israel Checkmated Iran
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuFGyFLehNw Why Russia’s New Axis is Way Dumber Than You Think
Also Foreign Affairs has some good long form pieces:
- https://www.foreignaffairs.com/middle-east/why-iran-will-escalate
- https://www.foreignaffairs.com/iran/trump-iran-gamble-vaez
- https://www.foreignaffairs.com/iran/what-it-will-take-change-regime-iran
- https://www.foreignaffairs.com/iran/americas-best-chance-transform-iran-trump
Book wise I recommend:
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Worlds Apart: A Documentary History of US-Iranian Relations, 1978–2018 by Malcolm Byrne and Kian Byrne offers a meticulously curated collection of declassified documents tracing pivotal moments in bilateral tensions, including the Iranian Revolution and nuclear negotiations
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Axis of Empire: A History of Iran-US Relations by Afshin Matin-Asgari examines America’s Cold War hegemony, the shah’s regime, the 1979 Revolution, and Trump-era escalations, including the 2025 US-Israel attempt at regime change in Tehran
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Iran’s Perilous Pursuit of Nuclear Weapons by David Albright uses Mossad-seized Iranian documents to detail clandestine weapons efforts, assassinations of scientists, and cyberwarfare like Stuxnet
Pedophilia
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Republicans since the 60s have only ever had two ideas: invade countries and lower taxes on the rich.
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Trump is surrounded by republicans and is a 90 yr old narcissist. He either has dementia or doesn’t give a fuck what happens
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he has reached new levels of unpopularity due to his status as an epstein style sex predator of kids, his killing of americans in an attempt to punish ‘santuary cities’ by violating the constitution using ICE as a political tool, as well as tariff bullshit.
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trump when in a pinch tries to do a new “newsworthy event” to reset the news cycles. Often it will be some advisor of his that has the idea. Its clear that being surrounded by republicans “invade iran” is probably a regular mantra.
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he needed a new diversion and “invade iran” was one of the few ideas left.
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Gives them a pretense to give money to the weapons industry -> weapons industry has higher profit -> stock goes up -> Dow Jones is over 50k, which makes their other crimes legal.
“Why is the USA attacking Iran?”
Trump’s insecurity:
By associating with “biblical” Netanyahu’s “Israel”, he gains “validity”.
By bombing someone, he gains “authority”.
By pretending that his-regime’s actions benefit the protestors in Iran, he gains “humanitarian credibility”, while warring against the people living in the US’s own Democrat states.
By doing all this NOW, he deflects from his being an Epstein-associate who’s on evidence for crimes against women, & girls.
See the PATTERN, not just some single-aspect of it, & then it makes more sense.
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Because Trump is a compromat, and he is scared of Putin, and Putin wanted higher oil prices.
Trump probably now hopes that a war will help his popularity. And at the same time he scores points with Israel, that is a major political influence in USA.Iran is one of the main supports and weapon suppliers for Russia … Putin is not happy about this.
Iran asked Russia for help,using the Russian S400 systems they have stationed in Syria, to help defend against Israeli missiles.
The response from Russia, was to shut down the S400 systems, to prevent them from being a target.So very clearly no aid is coming from Russia, and I think part of the reason is that this is what Putin want.
It’s because Russia is not in a position to provide aid as they are tied up in Ukraine. They need those S400 themselves (they even asked Turkey to give back some of the ones they sold to them).
This is the 4th time a Russian strategic partner was hit by the US (Syria, Venezuela and now Iran for the 2nd time) and Russia couldn’t do jack shit about it. It makes them look very bad and unreliable as a strategic partner, so I highly doubt Putin wants that.
So did he call Trump out? Because I haven’t heard that.
Also the Iranian designed drones are produced locally in Russia now. And Iran has so many problems themselves already, that their help is probably limited. Also Russia is running out of money fast to buy weapons from Iran.Yeah, he did. Ironically he called the assassination a "cynical violation of all norms of human morality and international law”.
Sorry, that was a bad example,because Putin has criticized Trump before, it’s the other way around,Trump never criticizes Putin.
But remember Putin is KGB, and he constantly plays a game of deceit. Also to his own population.Yes the famous motto being, “by deception you shall do war.” Oh wait, that’s Mossad.
You’d be amazed at what a cabal of pedophiles will do to protect their secrets.
The word is horrified, but yes.
- Why does the USA love Israel so much?
U.S. politicians love Israel for their campaign contributions.
US sees China as it’s main rival, Russia as Europes headache. Iran, Venezuela, Nkorea, cuba as minor annoyances that support China.
Worst case Denies China cheap oil imports for a while when both Iran and Russia are too weak to do anything. Also denies Russia some war materials. Best case scenario the protests reignite and replaces the regime with something less US hostile.
US sees Israel as the most reliable ally in the region, because all their neighbours hate them and they must stick with the US. A strong Israel lets US dictate much of what goes on in the middle east.
Let’s not all forget that Israel is not finished eradicating Palestine, but now everyone is looking at Iran. Violence in Gaza will again escalate but now with no coverage because a bigger war has started.
To answer why, I have a theory. (I apologize beforehand for any ignorance, I only know a very minimal history of US - Iran)
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Government. The US has wanted to control Iran from a long time, and succeded once in 1953. When the revolution of 1979 happened, they lost their hold in Iran’s goverment. They have constantly been trying to topple Khamenei’s regime since then. Khamenei was getting old, and if he names a successor and they come to power, the current regime system will be cemented and more difficult to overthrow from outside. And I think the release of Epstein files has accelerated the whole process, since the connections between politicians/influential people of various countries and the US/Israel are getting revealed to the world.
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Oil. After the Russio-Ukraine war started, America has been trying to stop countries from buying Russian oil and make them buy crude oil from American companies. The US needs to get hold of two things now - Oil wells (Venezuela, Arabia, Iran, I think Palestine too, I’m not sure) and trade routes. Iran has control over the Strait of Hormuz , which transports about 1/4th of world crude oil trade.
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Dollar. Both Maduro and Khamenei were trying to change the currency of oil trade, that is the American dollar.(This goes back to some agreement made between USA and Saudi Arabia)
This seems like a very logical and reasonable assessment, but I always wonder, somebody HAS to know this.
As in, the bomber pilots don’t know what their mission is really about, the generals just follow orders, but who decides on this?
Trump is too old/stupid to come up with such plans, so who is pulling the strings? His cabinet? The heads of the oil companies? How deep does this go? Also, it seems to permeate different administrations at this point.
I realise there’s probably no clear answer here, just wondering.
but who decides on this?
The US government? There is no one person behind this. This has been their foreign policy for decades. The US administration, as an imperialist entity, is acting like this.
This is the answer.
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The US government owns Israel, because the US themselves (politicians, military, etc.) are owned and operated by the Jesuit Order (ruled from the Vatican by the Jesuit Superior General). In fact, Napoleon (way back, I know) talked about the Jesuits being a military order, not a religious one.
Israel (the Jesuit-run 1948 version, not Messiah’s ekklesia) was a part of the 6th vial of Revelation (after WWII, the second spirit unto frogs). I talked about that in another post.
The Christian Zionist love for this fake Israel is actually because they’re Catholic (even if they don’t admit it through different denominations). Zionism is, in fact, a Jesuit-backed system (even we seem to be blaming Ashkenazim, who are also operated by the Jesuit Superior General).
For money. Every other explanation is BS.
To distract from Epstein prosecutions. Also, war is a great cover for unpopular domestic policy.
Plus the most obvious…Cha-ching!
Distract who?
The public from revolting
🤣 the public has the gestapo following them around and isn’t doing shit. The US is cooked they can do whatever. They’re not even bothering with a proper pretext to this war. “Uhhh what do we say why we bomb them?” “I dont fucking care ask slopgpt if you need slop for the public”
“We’ve been at war with them for 47 years!!!”
and the soldiers just do “their duty” and go get themselves blown up
