Fallout New Vegas. People act like it’s the best open world game of all time. I just found it boring running around the desert. There are both much prettier open world games, and much more immersive open world games.
And so many people say its so much like 1 & 2.
I love Fallout 1 & 2. I cannot get behind New Vegas. I’ve played through the whole thing, and I’ve tried revisiting it a few times and I just don’t get the praise its given.
Fallout 3 and New Vegas both aren’t 1 & 2, but I prefer 3 over New Vegas.
It’s an RPG with an open world, not a looter shooter with RPG elements.
According to this thread overrated means either “games I didn’t like” or “games that didn’t work for me”.
Yes? I don’t understand this comment I don’t think. Isn’t that exactly what it means, the majority of people like this thing, and I don’t? Making it over rated? It’s not like there’s the “game rater” on earth like you might find a “name rater” in pokemon. Not like you can say “oh this guy objectively got this one wrong”.
No clue what name rater in pokemon is, but you do have OpenCritic, MetaCritic and the various awards some games get. I don’t think liking a game and thinking it’s overrated are mutually exclusive.
Okay. So what’s overrated to you then? You seem to have a different view than I do.
Is it AAA games that don’t deserve all the reviews and attention, so by definition, they’re overrated?
I’m genuinely curious too, maybe I should think of “over” or “under” rated, as more than just another way of saying “hot take” and expressing a generally contrarian opinion.
No, I don’t think it’s just AAA games that don’t deserve all the hype, I think indie games can be overrated too. To give an example of both categories:
For AAA, it has to be The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild for me. And, I suppose, by extension Tears of the Kingdom. Good games, great characters and I really like the guardian enemy designs. Additionally, the game is a great showcase of what the hardware in the Nintendo Switch is capable of. The game is also highly rated on review sites and has received so many awards, wikipedia actually has to list them in a spreadsheet.
However, I genuinely think previous Zelda games are more fun. I think the vast, open world actually hurts the game, as it gradually becomes less about exploring and more about checking off tasks like finishing shrines and finding korok seeds. Previous Zelda games had smaller, more focused worlds and I think they were better for it. And even one would choose to ignore that, there’s the fact that weapons break every two seconds and you constantly have to replace them, which I feel most reviewers just glossed over. Combat is pretty frequent, after all, so it does get grating. In previous Zelda games you get the weapon and you keep it.
For indie, I have to point at Don’t Starve. And I want to focus on the original, not Don’t Starve Together, which has a slightly different approach. Very pretty, with great animations, involved game mechanics and great replayability. It is also well reviewed and was nominated for several awards (I think it only won one, but being nominated is impressive enough, I think).
I liked it well enough, but ultimately bounced off it. Reason being, I found the game kind of stingy with telling you how some of its mechanics work, so I played it with a wiki open in my browser. I also couldn’t bring myself to make additional playthroughs because of its glacial progression.
Sorry for the wall of text, but I hope this explains my position a little bit.
Thanks for the reply! So, you’re basically saying, in both examples, trying not to be reductionist here, but, “these are great games, and you don’t like them as much as everyone else seems to”. Very few people are going to have no complaints at all. I don’t see how my original point is invalid or how this is a different definition of overrated. Or how you stating your opinion is any different or more nuanced than anything else in this thread. Like, I could also just say your take on Zelda is just “a mechanic I don’t like”. So…
The Last of Us part II demolished the prestige of The Last of Us. Its storytelling devastated the technical prowess of the company’s workers. To date, Naughty Dog hasn’t been able to produce any relevant game after circa The Last of Us. They produced part II which sold fine thanks to its predecessor, and they have made remasters and derivatives of the first game which is their milking cow.
Yet, part II has a following cult like flatearthers.
Final Fantasy VII
It’s not even the best Final Fantasy
Agree. I never cared much for the original FF VII. To be fair I am old enough where I started with the first one on NES, so VII was not my introduction to the series like it was for so many others.
I do really like remake though. I thought they did an excellent job with it.
And not even the final one
I always preferred 8 and 9 over 7. For some reason, the characters in 7 never held my interest as much as in other games, and the gameplay was pretty basic for an RPG of that age.
Unfortunately, when I played 7 for the first time, I played it right after 5 which still has the best class system and 6 which has the best story. So both story and gameplay felt like a disgrace for me.
8 and 9 were definitely improvements over 7
9 was thier love letter to all the og games. It might be the best one. But i have a big soft spot for 4 and 5
8 has always been my favourite. As long as I resist the urge to draw spam. It can get repetively easy if you just draw and cast magic from your enemy, never having to use your own resources.
Skyrim
Tried it many times just so boring with clunky combat.
Oh yes bought it on release because of all the hype. Then stopped playing after two hours because it was so boring and generic.
Skyrim, until the mods came
Skyrim was extremely interesting when it was new because there wasn’t anything quite like it, but now there’s a lot of games that are like it and it’s not that great and it’s just kind of aged with mods or whatever
I hear you got an opinion
no I’ve never played it
I remember playing Skyrim at launch. The very first mod I downloaded was to restore Esbern’s voice lines; an npc critical to the main quest early on.
Bethesda forgot to reference his voice lines in the script, which broke the game.
Undertale - It took a lot of pages off from Earthbound and just basically served as an example of what happens when you are nothing but fan-service.
Doom - There will be no arguments against the fact that Doom did set the FPS world on fire when it arrived. But, you can make an argument that overtime, there have been lots of very enjoyable FPS games that will give Doom a run for its money. I’m also a fan of Quake and I think Quake helped progress FPS in its own way. I really hate that Doom: The Dark Ages was pissed away when that could’ve been the Quake remake or continuation we’d all like to see. Instead, Quake died at Quake Champions, a very forgettable hero-shooter.
Pattern here: both of them had sick music.
Ghostbusters on the C64, it sucked.
Manic Miner, a ruined rip-off of Miner 2049er.
C’mon, weren’t you blown away by the (at the time) novel digitized voice? “He slimed me!”
Of course, escape from Castle Wolfenstein did it even earlier (“was ist los, was ist los” and “ach, mein leben!”).
See but ghostbusters always crashed on my c64. So it was like the forbidden fruit. I never got to lay more than 5 minutes of it, but in my head it was the best thing ever. Lol. Human brains just suck.
I checked out Miner 2049er, because I never had an Atari.
I see ladders, the ability to kill the creatures, no keys and no exit.And the whole fun of manic miner was finding out
whatever was going to try and kill you next,
penguins, ball-balancing seals, toilet seats, kangaroos, steaming balls, fluff balls,
bunnies, rotary phones, a flying eye, a credit card,
and then you end up in the intro screen as the last level.
Diablo 2
I had an extremely many hundreds of hours good time with this game during its era
Boo this man
Expedition 33.
It won practically every single award even tho didn’t really deserve it.
Not an indie game either.
It was very pretty, and the soundtrack deserved the praise it received. Nothing too innovative about the gameplay though, and the story was good but typical for this genre.
That being said, I did enjoy it a lot. But that gameplay style is one of my favorites, so the visuals and music were just perks.
Yeah I bought it on GOG based purely on the hype. Mistake. I played maybe 10h, got throught the introductory areas and started the main game. I just couldn’t. I am not sure why it gets so much praise.
Oh yeh that looked cool I was pretty pumped about that. Is it not so good after all?
Obviously tastes differ. I thoroughly enjoyed it and felt it deserved the praise.
- The setting is original.
- Turn based with Parry/Dodge isn’t original (super Mario RPG) but it’s pretty satisfying here
- The stat/build system is fairly original and gives a lot of depth
- I thought the story was a solid examination of grief
If you enjoy RPGs it’s very good. Great soundtrack, good story, and to me very fun combat loop. Most of my friends love it too. But some people seem to bounce off it. It won every award for a reason.
To me the game very much lived up to the hype and I’d highly recommend giving it a try
Half Life 3
Absolutely unplayable.
Minecraft
Goldeneye 007, N64.
The hype! The praise! The lack of mouse control!!
8 million kids using a twiddly joystick, and thinking it was good.
It’s an awful FPS experience.
* The facade of cool was actually a frog-mouthed monster.
And if this was your childhood fave, I’m jk.
And if this was your childhood fave, I’m jk.
Oh no, you are not getting off that easily!! I am still raging impotently at my phone with a frothing mouth!
Sounds like someone was butthurt because they didn’t get to play as Oddjob…
Fucking Oddjob.
I played this at a mates house for a total of 7 minutes. No OP Oddjob in sight.
I remember playing it at a friend’s house and thinking “quake is better”, but the four player local play on one game and TV was an overwhelming factor.
By FPS standards it’s not great, if you take it more as a “first person action game” ala Metroid Prime, its appeal makes sense. To me it’s mainly impressive that they recreated so many parts of the movie and retold the story so well. But yeah people love it for the multiplayer which only impressed kids who didn’t have PCs at the time.
The thing for me was this predated the PlayStation, so dual analog was not a thing yet. GoldenEye was, to my knowledge, the first to emulate this by using two controllers. We had a ton of fun with that. I still preferred LAN parties with mouse and keyboard. Lot of work, though.
Indie? Outer wilds Its competently put together but its the exact same as every game in that microgenre before and after it’s release.
Dota and LoL. I shamelessly judge anyone who regularly plays either of those games by choice. Way too many people seem to like them.
It was a neat Warcraft 3 custom map.
Then it got weird.
Why though?
