I’m not pet owner and I don’t spend much time around animals in general. (Don’t get me wrong, I love them, It’s just I know I would be a terrible pet owner.)

How common it is for people to see, let’s say, a dog and immediately just know whether it’s “she” or “him”? If two dog owners meet in a park, would it be awkward for one of them to misgender the other’s dog?

Of course, I mean without looking at the “obvious” traits.

Are there behaviors that are typical for male/female pets outside the one directly related to mating?

I recognize that within the animal kingdom, the traits are not always clear, and I guess gender is quite more flexible than sex. I would be interested in both aspects.

What about cats or other animals?

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    would it be awkward for one of them to misgender the other’s dog?

    Story time!

    I was on my way into PetSmart to pick up my dogs from a routine vet appointment when I saw a man standing on the sidewalk right in front of where I parked. He had a dog with him of a breed I’d never seen before (probably a mix of many). This dog looked super neat with a mostly white head with a cool black stripe over one eye.

    “She’s a pretty dog!”

    Him, looking actually angry: “He’s a male.” (Or something like that)

    I then looked up at him and noticed he was wearing a MAGA cap. I didn’t notice before because his dog was so striking.

    Without skipping a beat, I replied…

    “It sucks being misgendered, don’t it?”

    I don’t know if he was a bigoted, anti-trans asshole but he was wearing the uniform.

    The look on his face was… Dumbfounded. Honestly, I was hoping for shock and horror but it was good enough 👍

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    The breeds I’ve owned i can tell from shape and size. Other breeds I’d have to see what gear they are packing.

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    Would it be awkward for one of them to misgender the other’s dog

    Personally, I don’t care. But some people take it really, really personally when you misgender their dog, and they tend to be exactly who you think they are.

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    I’m only ever sure if I see the twig and/or berries. Not seeing those, doesn’t mean the dog is female, however, because they can be easy to miss on some breeds.

    So, I just guess, and don’t worry at all if I’m wrong. The dog doesn’t care.

    Cats are even harder to distinguish. I can’t tell the difference between a fixed male cat and a female cat, even when they’re sitting on me.

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      Nope unless you see them pee.

      nonsense

      People are wrong about the sex of dogs all the time. they don’t care

      people can be wrong about what is 8+7, that doesn’t mean it is impossible to tell what the result is.

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        I don’t really get your comment. the dog and generally owner usually around me do not care if you call a girl dog a boy or a boy dog a girl. that is all I meant. it had nothing to do with accuracy on the don’t care part.

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          point of my comment is: “you are wrong. it is possible to tell sex of a dog. whether some people around you are wrong all the time is no proof one way or the other.”

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            youu know the thing is I took the op’s comments to be like in general. I did not mean to suggest its impossible just that most people don’t from a distance without something that would make it more obvious.

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      One of my female dogs squats, sometimes she squats while lifting a leg, the other lifts her leg, and very rarely squats.

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      unless you see them pee

      You mean see/not see the “pebbles”?

      Or do they tend to pee differently? I know dogs typically pee by raising one leg, but sometimes they just crouch by both back legs and just release. Is this what you mean?

      I vaguely recall when I was a teen we had a dog (he/him, and a mutt) and he would usually do the “this lamp post is mine now” pee but when he really needed to go he would just crouch and leave a big puddle.

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        Generally speaking, male dogs tend to lift a leg to pee while the females tend to squat. It’s nowhere near foolproof, of course, but you can usually say for sure that a dog is male if it’s lifting a leg. That said, I know plenty of male dogs that squat, or do the “lazy lift” where you can’t quite tell. So y’know…

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        if you own a female dog you can tell the difference between the pee and poop by the arch of the back. A male dog doing a puppy pee also looks different. Its possible female dog owners can tell easier.

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          i … i don’t know how i left you with the impression that i can’t tell poo from pee. … i must have done something horribly wrong. 🤣

          Actually I think for pretty much all mammals it’s as easy as telling liquid the difference between liquid and solid.

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    Usually the males are bigger and heavier, and the females are smaller and more slender. It’s relative to the breed. If you see a husky, but it’s a bit small and thin, you can safely guess it’s a girl. But if the dog is totally average and well behaved, you can’t tell.

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      Depending on the breed, males are often fluffier too.

      The famous Lassie is actually played by a male dog due to the thicker coat