I grew up in a rural environment in the 90s and early 2000s where it was perfectly normal to use “gay” with a negative connotation. The kind of environment where homosexuality was weird and every guy 13+ had to constantly prove he wasn’t gay or get angry getting called so.
I was fortunate enough to move away from there and meet new people and ideas.
I remember one turning point specifically. I was chatting with some people and used “gay” to describe some product I didn’t like, without thinking about it all, no ill intent. Later one of the guys took me aside and asked me if I realised I said that while a gay friend was standing right by. It couldn’t give a good answer in that moment but it gave me something to think about and I apologized later. He took it like a champ and I’m much more conscious about language since.
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The one that had the biggest effect on me was getting past the gay=bad nonsense that I was raised with. Which allowed me to come out to my wife as bisexual a while back.
Sex equals bad.
Grew up believing I’m a horrible sex/porn addict, tried a lot of things to go “cold turkey” on it. This all while being “hornier” than the average person, although not to a “chronic hypersexual” degree (do have a 4 hour “marathon” a few times a year, especially during summer for some reason).
Nowadays I don’t have the dreaded “post nut clarity”. Even managed to accept my bisexuality over time.
The most obvious one that comes to mind is “never questioning Capitalism”
Same but religion.
I started questioning it at maybe 10 or so and was confused why people 6 times my age believed in obvious bullshit used to control women and poor people.
But surely the market would never favor the most antisocial actors??? How could it ever prefer short term gains over long term stability?
Hating people by default for being different than me.
I don’t shave my armpits anymore. After a year or so, I even started liking my armpit hairs.
Who would have thought being an honest natural human being would be good!?
Car culture. The idea that driving is enjoyable and physical exertion is the curse of the devil, that parking should always be free, that most people have to drive because everything is far away and there’s no way it could ever be different, and that it would all work out if we just had one more lane.
Only recently crossed that bridge. Now I dread driving, having to deal with rush hour traffic, finding parking spots, and all the associated stress.
Public transportation also has issues, but you can use the time to listen to some music, podcasts, audiobooks, online courses, books…
What’s cultural programming? 👀
Is that like societal norms?
Yeah, default assumptions of your culture/upbringing.
Like how Americans think everyone should be smiling all the time by default. Vs say, Germans who think smiling all the time is weird and they typically only smile at people they know. Those are very two different cultural programming things that often result in cultural misunderstanding and stereotyping.
You know blind patriotism and acceptance that our way is the best way.
USA! USA! USA! We’re #1!
That sort of shlock.
That I’m allowed to have whatever opinion I want. Others disliking or disagreeing basically doesn’t matter in the slightest.
You overcame that?
I genuinely do not care. Took awhile, lots of therapy, lots of self reflection, years of just being alive and lots of confidence building.
Oh ok. The way you phrased it, it sounded like you learned to love rigid conformity.
Damn near all of it. I don’t fit in anywhere.
Bigotry in general
I hear that bigotry is bad. Good job
I was raised in a religious cult and now I’m some flavor of atheist. I was raised in a vapid culture fully of celebrity worship, anti-intellectualism, consumerism, and greed and I like to think I don’t contribute much to that stuff.
I grew up in a very religious, rural part of the country (US) and in a time when sexism and racism were the norm. I’m now an atheist and now recognize how damaging all of that is to the individuals it harms and to society as a whole.
Lots of people who are atheistic and urban are just as sexist and racist. They just don’t talk about it quite the same way.
I live in the northeast. Racism here isn’t slurs or loud talking about how bad people are. Racism here is calling the cops because there is a single black guy minding his business smoking in the park and it makes you scared. It’s passive aggressive bullshit.
I’d agree that racism and sexism are separate from religion and I didn’t intend to suggest that religion is the source of racism or sexism. It runs much deeper than that with sexism and racism being expressed in different ways by both religious and non-religious alike. That said, where and when I grew up they were all intertwined with and reinforced by religion. So when I threw off the yoke of religion it was easier, for me at least, to recognize the many small and large injustices being committed by me those around me because that was our “culture”.
In 2020 I thought there was going to be a revolutionary change. It ended up getting worse. It feels like the the later 90- early 00s.
At some point I realized that when I look at the life of an average person, it’s not something I want for myself. So I probably shouldn’t model my life after theirs and then expect different results.
Define average?
300k mortage, car payment, two kids, a dog, job that they hate, week long vacation abroad once a year etc.
in America you’d have to be in the top 20% of the income bracket to afford that lifestyle, and in high cost areas, the top 10%.



