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Star wars is a children’s movie, like frozen or the little mermaid. It’s just for little boys instead of girls.
It’s definitely my favourite children’s series with a fairly graphic beheading, dismemberment and the slaughter of children. Fun for the little ones.
Just like the classics with witches eating children
Very true, actually you reminded me of my second favourite children’s film Schindler’s List. They did a fantastic job making sure the parents could appreciate it too.
The Boy in the Striped Pajamas is my third favorite children’s movie.
When Schindler finally used a lightsaber in the 5th movie it was epic, couldn’t wait to get home and play him in battlefront
5th movie? Schindler was in episode 1. He was literally the man who resued the boy from the nazi slavers. The queen he was helping hide is also a jew.
I dunno if you’re being purposely obtuse, but try reading some original Hans Christian Andersen “children’s stories” instead of the sanitized Disney versions.
Shit was so much darker and more twisted than anything Lucas has ever been involved in.
It’s like OP’s post is repeating itself. It’s like poetry. It rhymes.
Huh. That’s the first time I’ve ever actually seen that shot in such detail. Is it ai upscaled? I always remember the bodies as being so small on the screen that you could miss them if you didn’t know where to look.
Nope, not upscaled, there’s a fairly close-up shot when Luke goes back to the farmstead. It’s pretty quick, though I’ve always thought quite graphic - the skeletons aren’t just burnt black, there’s very clearly charred but bloody red flesh still on them. If anything this is a low-resolution still compared to watching it on Blu-ray.
I don’t think the original Star Wars is a children’s movie, but I do think the the series became a lot more kid-friendly over time, probably both consciously and unconsciously on George’s part.
Ages 5 and up, 1978
And? you realize that all the toy licensing was about making money and nothing else right?
Just because there are children’s toys for an IP does not mean that the IP is intended for children. That Venn diagram is not a circle.
So? It’s fun
Never said children’s movies aren’t fun. Wall-e is a banger
Oh yeah? Where are all the singalongs?
In the holiday special
Edit: Oh yeah, also the yub yub song, and famously the space version of jazz: jizz
Three movies: two songs.
Not a sing-along!
It really is… It’s hard to go back and enjoy the movies after growing up and watching like, actually good movies.
I remember when Star Wars wasn’t political. It was a time known as “the movie didn’t even exist back then”.
At least Star Trek remains unsullied by politics
A take unironically expoused on fox news at some point
Yeah. There’s no need for politics anymore when you already have an intergalactic socialist utopia.
Technically it’s intra-galactic. As the Star Trek universe doesn’t span multiple galaxies.
Ah, right you are. My mistake.
Sucks for all those other galaxies that are stuck with techno-feudal corpofascism…
Sucks for all those other galaxies that are stuck with techno-feudal corpofascism…
The Foundation has entered the chat…
I’m a completely apolitical trans socialist in a queerplatonic relationship with a robotic hivemind, and I am OUTRAGED that some people these days are trying to politicise the prime directive and use it to force us to accept genetically engineered people!
- Average Federation citizen
What fediverse are you on where anyone is anything like that?
I mean I know some people here have their problems, but I don’t think I’ve ever encountered anyone who checks all those boxes…
I’m talking about Star Trek.
Ah shit, I was tired when I read “Federation” as “Fediverse”, my bad…
“Ugh were those people not paying attention when history class went over the eugenics wars‽ Next they’re going to suggest using nuclear weapons on inhabited worlds!”
I love this gif and will always upvote it.
“Shorty was a cop??”
Oh boy
Clearly it was a Star Special Military Operation, the emperor wouldn’t just go around starting wars
Almost understands. Everything is “political” especially anything claiming to be beyond “politics”.
Star Wars is not exactly subtle or full of nuance. It’s pulp, and it wears that badge with unironic, cinematic pride.
It is the spiritual successor to the 1930s Saturday morning serials—a world of bold archetypes, primary-colored morality, and breakneck pacing where the stakes are always “the fate of the galaxy” and the villains wear literal black masks. It doesn’t ask you to deconstruct the socioeconomic subtext of a spice mine.
(as i wrote last time this was posted here)
he followed up to simultaneously say he was joking while also doubling down 🤦
https://xcancel.com/theronster/status/1538239717032042497
also… blurring his name was really not necessary; he’s so proud of this that a screenshot of his reddit comment about it is still his pinned tweet four years later.
and it's also his twitter bio now:
Fr? I always had the impression that the Empire was somewhat inspired by Nazi Germany and the rebels were the resistance. Some of the helmets imperials wear in SW are kinda sus.
HitlerPalpatine’s personal guard is literally called the Stormtroopers (in German Schutzstaffel, better known as S.S.)Palpatine’s personal guard is the Praetorian Guard (they wear red uniforms). Stormtroopers (mostly white uniforms) are named after the german Sturmtruppen (literal translation), that’s WW1 stuff, not WW2 and has nothing to do with the SS.
George L. really doesn’t seem to give an F about changing the names, as The Praetorian Guard was the imperial guard of the Imperial Roman army that served various roles for the Roman emperor.
George RR M. At least made York into Stark and Lancaster into Lannister.
Lucas isn’t great at naming stuff, though.
Yeah, clearly.
I mean both can be true, story inspired by Vietnam war, visuals inspired by Nazi Germany
Makes sense to draw inspiration from Vietnam. That war must have been a very bad period for Americans.
Not nearly as bad as it was for the Vietnamese.
And now America looks like Nazi Germany.
Ah yes. The classic “lolololol I was just kidding and you fell for it lolololol” excuse.
Also, ironically, he means “I was being sarcastic”, not “I was being ironic”.
What an insufferable cunt. It’s because people like him why people hate nerds
I think when it comes to text people need to just include something to denote sarcasm or irony. You can’t read tone properly in text. Books can add color in the form of adjectives but outside of silliness we don’t add something like “he/she quipped sarcastically” into our own comments.
I think full adoption of the /s would be prudent for online discussions and comments with people that don’t know you personally.
Although it would be hilarious to add “I said, dripping with sarcasm” to the end of statements.
You don’t need tone for sarcasm, because it can be inferred from context. Check out British (“dry”) sarcasm.
Announcing your sarcasm is like explaining your joke. If you need to do it, you’ve failed, and it falls flat. At that point, it’s better to just not be sarcastic in the first place.
I’m quite familiar. And in plain text it’s often lost on those that would benefit from understanding it. In some contexts it doesn’t matter. In others it does. Sometimes clarity is more important than whether or not it falls flat.
You don’t need tone for sarcasm, because it can be inferred from context. Check out British (“dry”) sarcasm.
you’re being sarcastic here, right? /s
There can be vast differences in reading comprehension and contextual tone recognition.
As an easy example think of the many degrees of neurodivergency.
Secondly, British sarcasm and indeed a lot of British communication in general comes from the intention to be deliberately vague, so as to bake plausible deniability in to the responses given.
It can be inferred, but it’s not a guarantee.
That being said this guy seems to just be a prick trying to walk back something that blew up in his face.
If you want to act like a dumbass even ironically, you don’t get to be mad at people treating you like a dumbass
Got to love how this douche nozzle completely forgets that Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon fucking existed and what they were responsible for. (that’s not even mentioning that fuckstick Henry Killmonger)
Oh yeah, there’s no chance that Lucas could have been thinking of America as the evil empire back in 1975… 🙄😒
What a twat
I think some of these commenters who want to stop media being political are bots. The elites want to suppress free thinking and freedom of expression.
Don’t make Star Wars political… Except the rebels want to restore a democracy in the Original Trilogy…
And in the prequels we have literal political scenes, as written and directed by Lucas himself.
Except the rebels want to restore a democracy in the Original Trilogy.
Technically, it’s never stated which form of government (if any) the rebellion wants to create after the empire is gone.
I’ve only seen Andor so I don’t know if the lore was stated or implied in the original trilogy, but aren’t the rebellion an alliance of multiple revolutionary groups with different ideas for what comes after, but more broadly want to restore the Republic?
Andor was more poliyical than anything before in Star Wars. And even there, they had anarchists. (But yeah, they lean towards the system that got them the empire)
Hmm… But we do know a princess and at least one ex senator leads the rebellion.
One ex-senator also leads the empire
The princess was also a senator.
I don’t think that there’s anything close to a positively defined political agenda in the original text. At least none that were there on purpose.
To be fair, even though the movies use words like “Empire” and “Rebels” the political world building in the first movie is paper thin. The focus is really on the boy becoming a hero, on having a big adventure. The empire is powerful and looks scary, but we never get into the actual system of government, and at no point do the rebels ever say they want to restore democracy. They just want to take down the empire.
It has always seemed to me like George Lucas painted himself into many corners with the first movie because he didn’t actually think about what these throw-away references meant. Like, people latched onto the term “The Clone Wars”, but I don’t think he ever thought about what that actually meant, other than some words that sounded cool together.
“The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I have just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.”
- Grand Moff Tarkin in A New Hope, moments before starting the board meeting.
So we do get some glimpse into the state of government and how it’s been degraded. And then it’s not too far a stretch to figure what the Rebels are fighting for.
then it’s not too far a stretch to figure what the Rebels are fighting for.
A theocracy under the Jedi religion?
No. A New Hope gave the impression Jedi were much older and mysterious than recent events.
Christianity is much older and more mysterious than recent events, but a lot of people want to make the USA a christian theocracy.
Even directly quoting Bush Jr at one point.
And the Andor series is literally a class on fascism. Things presented there are inspired by real world events. The second season in particular makes it REALLY clear. You literally have the Empire conspiring with media to produce propaganda to undermine the Ghorman people so the Empire can come in and steal the planet’s resources and kill the people. Then the Empire stages a massacre and uses it as further propaganda
In something like 45 years and countless movies, TV shows and various other forms of media, Andor is really the first one that actually takes on the politics of the Star Wars universe. As someone said, it makes all the other Star Wars shows seem like someone playing with their action figures.
Wow. I had to go verify this and sure enough, I found a video from 7 years ago where Lucas said this and much more including comparing the American Empire to the Galactic Empire. Wow. I missed that reference as a child.
I think George Lucas has a tendency to make shit up as time goes on and gets high on his own supply.
That said, the prequels started with a literal trade embargo and there are several genocides in the series.
Even if you missed that, you probably picked up that it is against war and imperialism.
That was the part that shocked me as it rings even more true at this present moment.
at this present moment.
The present moment is just continuing a very long trend.
Ewoks were definitely a nod to the Viet Cong
Kinda wild that their social media team is getting into arguments with randos
/r/selfAwareWolves or whatever the lemmy thing is
I just gave it its second upvote. I’m helping!
the upvotes didn’t federate to your instance due to some bug; there are 120 where it was posted and 118 on the instance i’m on
Wow, never seen that one before. Are there really only 7 posts in the community or is that another weird bug?
yes !selfawarewolves@lemmy.world does in fact have only 7 posts.
!selfawarewolves@lemmy.ml is another community which exists, and has 16 posts so far (six of which are from me…)
Star Wars: From the adventures of Luke Skywalker which came out before the first movie. Literally describes Emperor Palpatine as Richard Nixon.
Once secure in office he declared himself Emperor, shutting himself away from the populace. Soon he was controlled by the very assistants and boot-lickers he had appointed to high office, and the cries of the people for justice did not reach his ears.
sounds way too familiar 😭
Dude, war is “politics through other means”. So technically the franchise could be renamed “Star Politics Through Other Means”. It just wouldn’t fit on the promotional materials.
That’s why I was already shaking my head when I read “Please explain number 2.” Dude, war is political.
