• FishFace@piefed.social
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    4 months ago

    Meaning is use. “Woke” is used consistently, but differently, in different political circles, so it has more than one meaning.

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    4 months ago

    It means “politically correct”, but users don’t want to admit they’re incorrect so they made up bad grammar instead.

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      4 months ago

      But doesn’t “politically correct” means not saying nasty truths? Like saying that Trump just “abused kids” instead “raped kids”.

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        4 months ago

        I see it as a scale from extremely polite to extremely offensive, where you just try to stay polite while being honest. I think the federal and provincial PMs, and the mayors aI know, have been good at this. Listen to the Canadian or UK Parliements, they even have strict rules to keep things in order.

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          4 months ago

          Personally I have mixed feelings.

          On one side - I consider being polite to be basic decency.

          On the other side - I feel like this “do not call it murder, call it unaliving” and such are just lies by omission of a word.

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            4 months ago

            In my view, “unalive” is just as useless a word as “woke”. Pre-MAGA federal politics could be politically correct without either of these new “words”. We don’t need federal politics to observe this. Anyone can visit their municipal debates and watch counselors and mayors being politically correct with each other. At least in my experience. The shock value language is mostly used by news-like outlets to make headlines and public attention.

  • canniest_tod@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    This is a fair point, but I’m still calling it “Woke Superman” because it’s funny.

    Sitting around:

    “Hey, wanna watch Woke Superman?”

    “That the one with the dog wearing a cape?”

    “Yes.”

    “Yeah, put it on.”

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    4 months ago

    They were never gonna like an adaptation of Superman that was true to the source material. Of course Superman is woke. That’s always been the point of Superman.

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          4 months ago

          Im sorry, darling, but he is first and foremost a fighter of crime… like any other super hero. And who fights crime? Cops. Superheroes are supercops.

          And lets not forget that he is a tool of american imperialism and american exceprionalism. Nothin’ woke 'bout that.

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            4 months ago

            The police use fighting crime as a pretext for the protection of capital and the oppression of minorities, their actual functions.

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              4 months ago

              I agree with that, but this pretext is the reality in superhero stories. Cops are portrayed as the good guys, and superheroes collaborate with them if anything.

              Cops and superheroes share this; They fight crime. And so if we imagine a child reading superhero comics, they will most likely think; I also want to fight crime! And who in our society fights crime? It’s the cops.

              Superheroes are a constructed reality to turn children into cops.

  • KickDownCH@feddit.org
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    4 months ago

    Tweet von @CasioWiser:Anonymous got that woke mind virus @elonmusk Antwort von @YourAnonNews: You fools throw around the word “woke” like it’s some kind of slur, it’s actually quite funny. You probably don’t know the meaning of the word, so let us school your tiny little mind. The word means that we’re alert to social injustices - such as racism and discrimination, that we’re cool with LGBTQ+ rights, we’re aware of economic disparities between the super-rich and working class, and that we’re cool with equal rights for all people. So - when you use it as a slur, we understand that you are against these things - that you are pro racism and discrimination, that you are not ok with LGBTQ+ people and you’re cool with the super-rich raping the working class - and that you’re not ok with equal rights. Don’t hide, just come out and say it - tell everyone you’re a Nazi.

  • Stern@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Superman is an illegal immigrant1, who has stolen American jobs and fought the president2. Clearly woke.

    1. Kryptonian by birth though one can argue him being found and adopted by the Kents might make it moot.
    2. Lex Luthor was president for a while and that was a whole thing.
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      4 months ago

      There’s no argument, Clark Kent is an illegal immigrant just like the kids who arrived here before they had memories and trump and ice are deporting them

  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Yeah. Being woke requires you to be aware of what is happening.

    Superman just shows up, and says “TIME TO SAVE PEOPLE!!!”. But he in general doesn’t know anything.

    To be woke, he’d need knowledge of WHY the orphanage is on fire. He just happened to be flying around, saw a fire, and saved the orphans.

    He’d be much angrier if he knew the orphanage was on fire because state legislatures cut funding to support the orphanage all so some dipship govenor can buy a 6th yacht.

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      4 months ago

      I mean… he is also a reporter and a genius. Chances are he’s well aware of inequalities.

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        4 months ago

        Superman got his start beating up slum lords. That’s not a joke. Superman started out as the sort of guy who rooted out corruption. The “aw, shucks” version of Superman is both a bit of a later development (and also kind of the persona that he takes on as Clark Kent)

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        He’s all too aware. As powerful as he is, he doesn’t have the ability to solve everyone’s problems everywhere all the time. This is a source of tremendous grief for him. That’s the whole reason he’s a compelling character and not just wish fulfillment.

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      4 months ago

      The latest one smashed a few planes and tanks, and dropped a dictator on a cactus. I don’t think he was just stopping by for a rescue.

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      4 months ago

      I always enjoy seeing old school examples of “wokeness”, and while I’m the farthest thing from patriotic I like seeing the fighting of prejudice framed as a patriotic duty as well

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        4 months ago

        you know, that shit felt so good when we were young and being patriotic didn’t mean we were self serving everyone hating bastards :)

  • HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    It kinda is a targeted political agenda, but not all targeted political agendas are evil.

    “Hey can you stop being a piece of shit and instead choose to be kind?” is the targeted political agenda, which is highly offensive to pieces of shit.

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    4 months ago

    On the one hand, his arch nemesis is an extremely wealthy CEO, so was ahead of its time in that regard. On the other, Superman refuses to do harm, even to him, when the truly woke would eat such a person in a heartbeat.

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      4 months ago

      This is now the bar for me accepting Superman as woke. He is gonna have to guillotine Lex Luther. If he just Karate chops his head off, I will let that count as well.