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Easy to notice if it has been purposefully planted recently though. Might delay it for a little bit, maybe
More than likely they do a survey to determine if the beetle is present. There is a whole thing about core and matrix habitat for species at risk, with matrix being less protected.
I knew someone who briefly worked in this field and quit due to the corruption.
One day he does find endangered shit. He tells his boss, “hey you know they have so and so on this land, actually you gotta call this one.”
The boss sighs and is like, “let me explain how this works. We can do this and call it out, but next time this guy has a big project, he’s not contracting out to us. And the other guys will definitely let it slide. Either way, they’re building, and we end up going out of business eventually. You might win this one time, but eventually it won’t matter.”
I think at the end of the day, he quit and they built over it.
That dude was just corrupt. My wife has to deal stuff this exact stuff and they literally reroute, build in a different area, or have to take extreme precautions like not building at that time of year that will most affect the endangered species.
I am an environmental consultant, too. You’re correct that they often re-route or change their designs based on habitat, though this isn’t always the case. They can determine if the impact is major, or if it can be reversed or off-set. An example would be a mine that goes through woodland caribou habitat. They’ll still mine the fuck out of it, but then they’ll be required to reclaim it back to what it was. The rub is that people think reclamation is a fast or sure thing, but it’s neither. Some ecosystems, like those that support caribou are really hard to re-establish, but operators can get on with a commitment to restore, and a couple of contingencies in case the reclamation doesn’t work.
@terranoid@lemmy.cafe yes, this is a thing in consulting, but often with the smaller, more cowboy firms. Bigger firms can push back a bit, and say ‘hey, look. we really don’t recommend this, here’s the risks’ or flat refuse service if they can take the hit.
@owsei@programming.dev yes, generally, consultants are hired to do things like rare plant surveys or wildlife sweeps. It’s not the EPA or other regulators doing this and the operators don’t have the capacity or expertise to do it themselves usually.
What makes their story unbelievable is that they said “one day they find endangered shit”. Environmental companies find endangered species every time they leave the office. It’s not an unusual occurrence. I’m not sure if my wife has had a project without at least one reroute in the past decade much less her whole career.
Wait the reporting of the endangered species is done by private companies???
There’s probably some grossly underfunded and under staffed auditing organization that has no teeth but makes everyone who’s not really paying attention feel better.
Elderberry is also a wonderful edible medicinal plant. Their berries are delicious and immune boosting
Makes a great liqueur too
All (most?) liqueurs we’re medicinal products at some point. We just stopped drinking them for health and now just for flavor. They also changed some formulas to make them cheaper / sweeter
Radithor, for that healthy glow!
Beer is my social anxiety medicine.
It’s a great one
In case anyone thinks they can grab a berry off the bush, they need to be cooked first
So one’s father smelling of elder berries is actually a good thing?
Not if you’re French apparently
Your father is a drunk and your mother the town hore is the literal translation.
Wait… translating from English… to English???
Didn’t expect that, did ya!?
Now I want elderberry jam on my toast.
Kudzu
We want more native plants, not invasive plants
True, but it will fuck their shit up and won’t cause our government to remove environmental protections
The law means nothing when lobbies of big corps can change it to their like, paying politicans as their spokespersons.
They will simply cut whatever protections exist stopping it. Still do it, just don’t expect it to be a forever solution.
i guess this gesture is even safe enough for weak americans
Please regale us with all your tales of arson and sabotage. Surely you have just one or two to share with the group?
I was once working on a building site of some kind and was told that was known to have some kind of native endangered lizard, we were told “if you think you see one, you didn’t”.
Lmao they don’t even care about humans. You think they’d care about beetles and berries??
Yeah I’m sure the guys on the ground would “accidentally” start the diggers before they were “aware” of the Beatles and berries.
Except it’s only native to the central valley in California so if you’re anywhere else this is not going to have any effect.
I guess this person just didn’t look up its range or something? The species pictured there isn’t even native to CA.
Most endangered species have restricted ranges, which is part of what makes them endangered. So you’ll have to do the work to find out what might be present in your local area.
That said I did just hear they’re trying to build one in Roseville, CA which IS in the range of this species so guerrilla gardeners, if you happen to be in Roseville, go nuts.
So the proper name for the blue elderberry is Sambucus cerulea? Asking for a friend, who wants to be sure they get the right type of seeds.
Just plant some American chestnut. Ignore why such a wide ranged tree is endangered
For everyone who wants to know why it’s endangered (like i did): Because of a fungus that originally grew on the japanese chestnut variant (starting in the early 1900s), to which the american chestnut has no resistance - it is estimated that in in first half of that century, three to four billion tree died to that fungus. In the original geographic range of the American chestnut, only 4 mature trees remain. There are still some root systems that sprout saplings, but they get killed off by the fungus quickly. There are some enclaves in other areas that still have a few hundred, like in northern Michigan
Besides which, of you could just propagate and pla t this stuff wherever, it wouldnt be rare and protected.
RIP to the Endangered Species Act
No chance the US government will forego money for their broligarchs because of environmental laws.
But if you really want to overwhelm someone’s property with an unkillable native plant, I’d have to put Virginia creeper forward as a candidate.
Get a few people. On one corner: bamboo. On another, kudzu. On a third, blackberries and mint. On a fourth, your creepers. Let the games begin.
that bamboo is gonna be a clintcher
Maybe, but kudzu is no joke, either. Ask the entire eastern coast of the U.S.
When I was in Alabama, my whole life felt like it revolved around 1 rule:
“Don’t turn your back on the Kudzu.”
Should add sunchokes/Jerusalem artichoke in there somewhere, as they are food. I don’t think kudzu is? Lets replace that one.
Sunchokes spread like crazy as long as they have full sun, and are super difficult to eradicate, but are thwarted by being planted in sunny clearings in densely wooded areas. They can’t spread into the shade.
Make the land difficult for development, but useful for the community!
Kudzu is actually edible. It can also be used to make clothing and baskets. It improves soil by fixing nitrogen (it’s a legume) and prevents erosion. It’s so prevalent in the US because of its usefulness in preventing erosion. It can be used for animal feed. Issue is that it out competes native species, not that it isn’t useful
Oh no! Here comes Wisteria with the metal chain from the top rope!
But it looks so pretty!
Some can smell so lovely, too!
It does, and it draws so many bumblebees. I skipped trimming ours for one season and in the fall I noticed it poking out the top of the 2nd story chimney, it had grown under the siding, ~40 feet (12.2m) in one spring/summer.
Horseradish.
Oh god, keep the bamboo and kudzu in their native environments. The ecosystem has been through enough!
Eh, ecosystems adapt. Most “invasive” species made their way to new lands on their own. The problem is when humans consciously introduce a new species with a purpose, knowing that it dominates against something the idiot human doesn’t like.
There are only really a few big rules to keep things going. Don’t get rid of the sole predator for a populous prey animal. Don’t introduce prey animals to an environment that reproduce faster than they can be eaten. Don’t plant clones, diversify genetics within a species(looking at you, orchards and tree farms).
Seems like we should add kudzu bugs and giant pandas to North America, and all will be well 😄
And also - most critically. When introducting a predator to hunt a specific populous prey, ensure that one of them isn’t diurnal while the other is nocturnal.
Oof, yes!
The bamboo is for the ruling class https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bamboo_torture
We’re doing this to save the ecosystem from the data centers, silly! Let’s goooo!
In order to save the ecosystem, you must be willing to kill the ecosystem!
My asshole of a neighbor planted a line of bamboo right on our fence line, so now once a week I have to go to my side yard and dig up roots or they’ll choke out my ac unit within months.
If you dig down about 2 foot (or several inches lower than the lowest root you find) and install a rubber barrier that goes from the bottom of the trench to up above the soil, it wont be able to spread to you anymore :)
You could use brick, stone, or cement, but if any cracks exist or form it’ll eventually find the way through, where that’s significantly less likely with a solid sheet of rubber.
Watch them care, they’ll just bulldoze right over these
I’m sure the pedo in charge, that’s just ordered the removal of a deep-ocean observation system, is certainly going to baulk at the thought of removing some plants.
The kind of ecological terrorism I approve
Endangered species act being removed in 3 2 1.
