The ones who come out of the woodwork when you agree with the Nuremburg Trial execution verdicts will write novels.
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Don’t call everyone you disagree with Hitler, simply because they are named Adolf Hitler and were the leader of the German “Third Reich”, committed genocide and started a world war. So quick with the name calling, really /s (calling things by their true name, that is)
Just because someone subscribes to a fascist ideology and chooses to put you and your family into a concentration camp doesn’t make them a nazi. And before you raise your voice; I’d like to remind you that calling other people names is hurtful, unless you’re speaking truth to power like me. So shut up, I know what’s best for your kind.
If we want a brighter future, then we all have to make sacrifices. For me that means that I have to sacrifice my ability to think critically and reflect on my own actions, and for you it means that you have to sacrifice your life. Now please stop crying and get into the mass grave. Thank you, now apologize for calling me a nazi.
Thank you, I accept your apology.
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Just because someone subscribes to a fascist ideology and chooses to put you and your family into a concentration camp doesn’t make them a nazi.
They’re here and they’re there and they’re everywhere We’re taught that after the war the Nazis vanished without a trace
But battalions of fascists still dream of a master race
The history books they tell of their defeat in forty-five
But they all come out of the woodwork on the day the Nazi died
They say the prisoner of Spandau was a symbol of defeat
Whilst Hess remained imprisoned and the fascists they were beat
So the promise of an aryan world would never materialise
So why did they all come out of the woodwork on the day the Nazi died
They’re here and they’re there and they’re everywhere
The world is riddled with maggots–the maggots are getting fat
They’re making a tasty meal of all the bosses and bureacrats
They’re taking over the board rooms and they’re fat and full of pride
And they all came out of the woodwork on the day the Nazi died
So if you meet with these historians I’ll tell you what to say
Tell them that the Nazis never really went away
They’re out there burning houses down and peddling racist lies
And we’ll never rest again until every Nazi dies\Chumbawamba rocks
What a banger. Also just shows how long this shit has been brewing and everyone just kinda overlooked it until now it’s too late.
It was not overlooked, it was weaponized. Just like in Germany in the 1930’s.
The turning point was 2001. The liberals thought they could use that enemy from within and they thought they could handle the fascists, until they became the fascists. Now they are just like the fascists, but people hate them more than ever, so they directly side with them in order to not be left over when the vanilla fascists takes the power.
There’s a logic flaw in this post and that makes me feel uncertain if this is just ragebaiting or what… It certainly feels like it, and it is kinda worrisome and sad if we let this kinda shit content drive the platform usage into senseless insult throwing (I’m kinda expecting that I’ll be called a Nazi for not agreeing on what this post represents, precisely my point).
You can say “fuck Nazis” and I’d agree. Fuck them, hard with a cactus. If someone disagrees with “fuck Nazis” sure, you found the Nazi. I agree with that. If in a conversation someone is defending a Nazi ideology or some clear Nazi shit, yeah call them Nazis and anyone defending them are clearly aligned on that shit.
But then step two of the image makes no sense.
Watch for the “don’t call people who disagree with you Nazis” comments.
Saying fuck Nazis is not the same as calling someone who disagrees with you a Nazi. If someone would call someone a Nazi for disagreeing on some random topic, and someone says don’t call them Nazis just because they don’t agree with you, that doesn’t make them a Nazi. There is nuance here, what was it they disagreed with? It feels like the post is just trying to give way to the fact that if you call anyone a Nazi and they disagree that makes them even more Nazi. It the same shit as accusing someone of stealing and when they deny it you answer with “that’s what a thief would say”. Well yeah, but it is also what a non-thief would say. So it proofs nothing.
Can’t we just agree on hating Nazis and calling a Nazi to anyone making a Nazi salute or saying Nazi shit or defending Nazi shit? Can we agree that saying “don’t call people who disagree with you a nazi” doesn’t immediately imply they are Nazis? It doesn’t make any fucking sense, and I’d wish to see better content in Lemmy than this baity shit. Instead of this shit, post a nice image that says “fuck Nazis” with a middle finger as decoratiin, and I’m sure you will see less crap than in this post.
To me it’s really very simple. No, not everyone we dislike or disagree with is a Nazi. However, anyone who takes offense to “Fuck Nazis” is either a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer, which for all intents and purposes is the same thing really.
It’s not a flaw it’s the point.
It’s meant to help show those saying be nice to nazis. That’s it.
I may be over thinking it, but that’s not what it reads like to me. Like at all.
The post doesn’t say “anyone defending a Nazi” is a Nazi. Which sure, makes sense. I agree.
The post says “anyone saying that you shouldn’t call a Nazi to those who disagree with you means they are by extension Nazis”. That assumes that calling someone a Nazi can never be wrong if they disagree with you and you are not a Nazi. Someone that is not a Nazi can disagree with someone that is not a Nazi. The post seems to try and create discord by saying that a witch hunt against Nazis is perfectly fine because Nazis are shit. And anyone against a witch hunt of Nazis means they are a Nazi. Well, I’m against all kind of witch-hunts because they are based on accusing whoever just out of hatred with very little way of fighting against it fairly.
Or to explain my meaning in a different way. I’m against the death penalty. That means that I don’t want any form of legal death penalty, even if someone is a Nazi. Does that mean now that I treat Nazis too nicely? I can see and understand that someone disagrees with me and I would disagree with someone proposing the death penalty for nazis. They can call me a Nazi then I guess? Just because I’m against the death penalty? I’m not against the death penalty to defend Nazis, I’m just against the death penalty. This post is in my opinion just shit trying to ragebait. I don’t see who could benefit from it, but surely there are possible reasons for it.
The post doesn’t say “anyone defending a Nazi” is a Nazi. Which sure, makes sense. I agree.
It does, that’s the person out of nowhere saying
don’t call those you don’t like nazi
None of this is specific to anything or anyone unless that person is disagreeing with fuck nazis.
You are 100% overthinking this.
The post says “anyone saying that you shouldn’t call a Nazi to those who disagree with you means they are by extension Nazis”
No it doesn’t say that. Maybe you’re not overthinking it enough. I’ll walk through the proof referring to the numbering in the post. The post is saying: "anyone is probably a Nazi(3), who’s saying that you shouldn’t call everyone you disagree with a Nazi(2), if they are saying it in the following special context: they are saying it, even though you didn’t do that at all! Not even remotely. You simply made an obvious statement about real genuine actual Nazis in general being bad(1), but they somehow took offence to what should be the most uncontroversial statement ever(1) and came out and created a strawman to attack you for something you didn’t do(2). Simply because they don’t like the one thing they know about you: that you don’t like Nazis(1). Now why might that be? Well probably because they are a Nazi(3). qed
say what you want about the tenants of national socialism, atleast it’s an ethos
Do not fuck nazis
They can do it themselves
“Yikes”
“You found the Nazis”. Now what? Have a nice day.
Now what? Depends
CW: Death, Hypocrisy
Only a Sith thinks in absolutes.
Only a liberal quotes an absolute statement to claim that absolutes are bad, proving once again that their entire worldview is based on screenwriting and vibes with critical thinking nowhere to be found.
Ok, cool.
Its a movie franchise about swordfighting space wizards, and that’s honestly enough to discredit the top-level comment without diving deeper
The real question is… is the poster trying to drive engagement, or division.
Division against…genocidal fucks? Uh yeah, I sure hope it does
See that would be great. But it actually causes division between people who agree that the genocidal fucks should be dragged out int the street and … but don’t agree to jumping to conclusions or over generalizations.
The actual supporters of genecidal fucks aren’t here to be divisive against.There are plenty of liberals and reactionaries here, actually
I see that over at fascist.world, it’s considered divisive to say fuck nazis
I’m not saying it’s divisive to say fuck nazis. But calling someone you know almost nothing about a nazi seems a bit extreme. Mostly because the level of willing misinterpretation on here is stupid high. I could say fuck trump, and somehow there will be people who will call me a trump supporter. It boggles the mind.
But calling someone you know almost nothing about a nazi seems a bit extreme.
Unless that’s the one thing you know for sure about them.
Ok reactionary
Lmao dude this was a post against unspecified hypothetical nazis, anyone who decided to get offended by it put their name to it themselves. A hit dog hollers.
Sure, except no one got offended. Though I guess I didn’t read the most recent responses. So maybe someone did, but I kinda doubt it.
not helping your case there
Actually, the votes prove my point.
Dont call the people who say “dont call people you disagree with nazi’s” nazi’s.
Checkmate.
So the people who don’t like this are Nazi’s?
Who else would be upset with those people being depicted in nazi uniforms?
Nazi punks, fuck off!
Null set. No Nazi can actually be punk.
Where do I get my membership card then?
found the nazi
There was only one!?
Strep right over here and wait for the flash. We need to get your photo for the card or somethingI refuse to be executed by anything less than an entire squad
Fuck off, dweeb. Go get bullied for being an unlovable subhuman
That’s what I’m trying to do here!
