• Babalugats@feddit.uk
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    2 months ago

    Stop using Google as a verb. “Search” company name.

    • If you stay in/get into the habit of searching for products using google, inflation will just keep happening and amazon will give them a kickback. (Google charge for the higher search results).
    • They save and use your data, you are effectively an unpaid employee of google (it is how google ‘work’ - they also are the reason you are often paying more. The best way to do it is
    1. Find a cool product (if it happens to be on amazon, so be it).
    2. Search the name of that company on Duckduckgo, or qwant or many other non data collecting engines that don’t have a kickback agreement with seller, or just a lower rate.
    3. 10% (or any) code is the reason they are selling product higher. Some people buy at the higher price (presumably most) so why would they care if people find the 10% discount code (advertisement on search engines) to get the product for the normal price?
    4. Company avoids paying both amazon and google, - it’s not really “losing a 25% margin” unless you believe that they don’t pass the fees on to the customer (YOU).
    5. You avoid giving money to all the c**ts but more importantly, you pay the proper item value, or you help competition grow.

    The old way (2007ish - 2026) is the shit way.

  • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I have tried this a few times recently, and pretty much only find their stuff on Amazon. Keeping a storefront is a cost some companies don’t want to do.

    • Séimhe (sé / é)@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Came here to say this. Let Amazon provide the search and reviews. We can use that but spend our money elsewhere.

      At the most basic level could get the store name via the current Amazon page and then open a new tab with a search.

      But ideally it would actually provide a like to their own web store. Not sure how that part would work technically.

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        2 months ago

        and reviews.

        Not really any more. Unless you mean 3 reviews and totally-for-realsies-trustworthy AI slop summary.

  • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    I havent touched amazon in 10 years and I cringe at how much friends and family still use it. Fueling our fascist billionaire fire ever more because they’re too ignorant to use their brains and not buy from a psychopath. Other people are the downfall of the world 🙃

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    2 months ago

    Yeah, but having to do that for a dozen stores and than having to cancel a dozen mailing lists is a pain in the ass. Entering in card information each time so it’s not stored…

    Convenience is worth the cost sometimes.

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        2 months ago

        You understand that those dozen companies are going to be far less efficient and cause more harm to the environment… yeah…? They are also probably using amazons servers for the service, and adding onto it.

        So… you’re barking up the completely wrong tree here mate. Using those dozen companies would actually cause more harm than a singular more efficient identity.

        A dozen payment transactions is far worse than one as well. So yeah, I’m actually thinking about the potential harm, are you?

      • BCsven@lemmy.ca
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        2 months ago

        Nah, its been good lately. Some stuff I ordered shows up before the Amazon stuff…like Amazon said a week but then shipping delays and nonsense and seller excuses. And Ali has been 1 to 1.5 weeks for things I ordered.

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    2 months ago

    I thought i was ordering a product directly from a company and avoiding Amazon. The thing was delivered in an Amazon package

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      2 months ago

      Yep. That’s “FBA”, Fulfillment by Amazon.

      There’s no way for a consumer to avoid that if the seller opts in. But do tell the seller why you won’t buy from them again when this happens!

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        2 months ago

        Here in a week fba will be much much much much much much much much much cheaper for small sellers.

        I’m at the point I wish yall would understand how bad shipping has gotten. Like, it’s bad and it’s about to double in how bad it is.

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      2 months ago

      This is the worst. Return it and email them that you like supporting small businesses and avoid Amazon. They may tell you to pound sand, but if they hear it from more of us it may (probably not) change things.

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      2 months ago

      Or you go to their site and they just direct you to Amazon – and not because they’re lazy, to sell on Amazon you need to agree that you won’t offer the product cheaper than Amazon anywhere else, including on your own site.

      And, that’s even assuming you can go to the manufacturer’s site. Often instead you’ll just get a facebook page, or maybe not even that.

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        2 months ago

        I hate when I go to a manufacturers site and navigate to “products,” filter the list and find what I want, and on the product page it gives a description, no “add to cart” button but a “buy on amazon” button.

        Like. FFUUUUCCCKKKKKKK.

        [image of a computer leaving a broken window of a high-rise building]

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          2 months ago

          Yeah. Especially if it’s a very specific version of a product you want, and they just link to their “amazon store”, which has terrible search filters, or doesn’t have that model available.

          It’s not just that they give a big cut of their sales to Amazon, it’s that often the manufacturer puts a lot of effort into having different versions of their product with different features. But, then it’s dumped on Amazon. Amazon’s search is “helpful” and gives you similar products and then uses their “recommended” ranking to put products they make more money from at the top.

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        2 months ago

        Yall don’t even try. Make up all the excuses you want. I see how little the majority give a fuck about giving money to bezos or whoever if a product of consumption is right there within your grasp.

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          2 months ago

          What the hell you talking about? The person you’re responding to is correctly pointing out that Amazon has some awfully anti-competition rules and a lot of their sellers can not legally sell for less than they do on Amazon, even though Amazon gets a cut. No one is “making excuses,” and no one is happy about it, it’s just a reality.

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            2 months ago

            Or that even if you order directly from their site, the order is still fulfilled by Amazon. My partner actually don’t try any more because we’ve recently given up after trying for too long, paying more, and still ending up giving money to Amazon.

            Don’t fucking blame us for billionaires rigging the system.

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        2 months ago

        Pro tip for manufacturers: sell a slightly different model number with more features on your own site if possible…

        Or bundle one of them with something extra, so it’s not technically the same product and not subject to the price restrictions…

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          2 months ago

          Yes, I’m sure you’ve outsmarted the multi-billion dollar Amazon with these hacks.

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            2 months ago

            Not so much outsmarting as avoiding their wrath: like avoiding the eye of saurons gaze

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              2 months ago

              What makes you believe these tricks, which took you 2-3 seconds to come up with, aren’t well known and already not permitted by Amazon?

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                  2 months ago

                  Because Amazon is known for not allowing that kind of thing, and has probably invested more than 2-3 seconds thinking of possible work-arounds.

  • Alatarius@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    To be fair, I have found some really cool products on Amazon, but then there is no website for the company and it’s all through Amazon exclusively. I tend to avoid those “shops” no matter how cool it is. Thankfully there aren’t many like that. I think I ran across only 3 so far.

  • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    Honestly I’ve mostly been finding items cheaper on Amazon either because you’d have to pay for shipping on it, or because they just entirely neglect their website since nobody uses it.

    Also that only really applies to “real” brands, not the gibberish named brands. Those companies only exist to use Amazons brand registry for better SEO and probably don’t even have a website. AINOPE is not a “real” company, they just slap their name on whitelabel products. Of course the first random one I picked does have one, but it is more expensive than amazon.

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      2 months ago

      At least with AINOPE or GJHUIRAJ or MBHJOILJRE you can go to Ali Express and get it more directly from China, often for half the price.

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        2 months ago

        I tried Aliexpress before, and they blocked my account for no reason and their support wanted a ton of my banking information then never resolved the problem

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          2 months ago

          That sucks. I’ve never had any issues. Are you sure you weren’t scammed? Being asked for banking information seems very odd.

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        2 months ago

        Yeah but you’re almost definitely not getting that within the 2-8 days the OP quotes, compare that to being able to get shit within hours in some cases through Amazon and it’s curtains

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          2 months ago

          Unless you don’t need your curtains right away and wouldn’t mind waiting a few extra days/weeks to get them much cheaper.

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    2 months ago

    Yes and no. Some are actually not reachable outside Amazon. Some tell you they only work over Amazon. Some offer only Paypal as payment method, which I don’t use. Some only offer some Chinese payment methods that I’m not going to use, either. Or their non-Amazon shop is only available in Chinese. And some have suspicious online presences where i think it is good to have Amazon in between, in case they do something fishy.

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      2 months ago

      I’ve done shipping for a company that sold direct and through partners, and a lot of times they actually make a better margin with Amazon just because of shipping costs. Amazon makes it so much cheaper to ship that even though they take a bigger margin it still saves the company money. Free shipping is a lie, it just means the company eats it and averages it into the price.

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      2 months ago

      I’m the opposite. If they don’t offer PayPal or another common payment option I’ll usually not use it. So many sites have terrible security and I don’t feel like having my cc info stolen because it wasn’t properly handled.

      Especially for a one time purchase not something I’d get monthly

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      2 months ago

      Me too! Why is that?

      Is Amazon’s shipping/ distribution system that much better?

      Does Amazon require sellers, as a condition of listing on Amazon, to always have their cheapest price listed on Amazon?

      I do note that, especially lately, I find a lot of stuff significantly cheaper on Ebay that Amazon.

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        2 months ago

        Does Amazon require sellers, as a condition of listing on Amazon, to always have their cheapest price listed on Amazon?

        I think, that is true… and should be forbidden.

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    2 months ago

    They usually offer free shipping if you buy past a certain minimum as well, with a handful offering free shipping on everything.

    Amazon already exploits it at a lower floor of $35 so they can price everything at 34.99 to get you to buy more stuff.

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    2 months ago

    Been doing this for a couple of years now. Sometimes I end up paying a bit more or have to pay for shipping but that’s better than using Amazon for me. If I can’t find it I do without.