Hindsight is 20/20 and I realize this probably wasn’t the best idea to begin with…
(Scott Kirkland, if you were wondering…)
Get a new phone case and keep this one sealed in a clear box
It’s on the phone itself, unfortunately. The case is off in this pic.
Get a new phone /s
Then get a transparent case.
I’ll see if I can find one that doesn’t actually contact the back of the phone, but the trial and error to find one of those may end up destroying the autograph.
If this is a seriously prized signature, here’s what you do: scan it, isolate the signature in GIMP (or Photoshop if you’re into that sort of thing), and send your phone to a laser engraver who can permanently fix the design in place. Then wash off the original. As a side bonus, you can get the same thing done on future phones in perpetuity.
He is kinda my heartthrob as I have seen dozens of his shows over the last 20+ years. It’s invaluable to me, and that is the important bit. :)
That is a sick idea, and not actually out-of-scope.
I’ll need to think on that as the “pristine” nature of it in its current state would literally get etched away. Alas, it is slowly fading now anyway, so the memory still could be preserved for a lifetime.
As they say: Think, but think fast.
The choice is yours! Is it the traces of sweat, skin particles, and smudges of ink you treasure, or is it the memory of meeting an idol while they were still hot and unproblematic?
Resin or hard coat prob. Make sure you cover up anything you don’t want coated in goo
I was thinking airbrush/clear coat, but pouring a coating on may be ideal and faster, provided I can source the materials fast enough.
I wonder if you’d have to consider what type of ink it is. It might bleed after you put anything on top. I remember spraying a munny doll with some primer or whatever after painstakingly drawing on it with sharpies only for the whole thing to melt off lol
It’s a sharpie, and I speculate it may have been specially for fabric (if there is such a thing), further adding to the preservation conundrum.
But anything alcohol based (or is a substance that has molecules around the same size) would melt a sharpie really quick.
You got me thinking about this differently now, specifically about different solvents that would have been in your spray primer. Acetone is common in epoxies and primers, and it will aggressively remove sharpies as well. (Water is also a solvent, and smaller than acetone or isopropyl, but something something polar/non-polar, or something. Sharpie ink is naturally hydrophobic anyway, but not completely.) Other, equally effective solvents exist to remove sharpie and also, well, act as a solvent for other uses.
So, point being, you just eliminated what is likely to be a fairly large range of possible coating options to choose from, which is a good thing. (I completely forgot solvents are a huge thing to consider, as did a few others here.)
I may end up just buying a new phone, TBH.
Encase it in a block of resin then!
Like so:
Practise with other things first though ofc
(I responded to your other comment already, but just inserting a disclaimer for the broader populus that encasing a lithium battery in resin, while possibly briefly entertaining, is no bueno and potentially extremely damaging to any squishy bits you hold dear on your body. Just covering all the bases, friend!)
Lol. Much cheaper to just replace the shell.
Could that be done in a “white glove” way? Cracking the original shell on a phone requires quite a bit of heat and leverage, both of which seem super risky.
Isn’t the back plastic? If so it shouldn’t be that hard to remove it without damaging it, but I would check repair videos or ifixit and see if they damage it.
The Pixel 10 has a glass back, and unfortunately it requires heat and a suction cup to remove it according to the iFixit guide.
Yeah atleast its posibble to remove it without destroying it (judging from ifixit images that is).
I wonder if it would be possible to remove that part of the case and find another?
In the interest of risk management, buying a new phone is likely the better option. Also, this is a brand new phone and haven’t even had time to properly leave a scratch on the glass yet.
That is an option though and one that’s going to be considered.
You’ve mentioned the battery being an issue for resin.
I would like to mention if you decide to get a new phone and use this one as art, you still need to remove the battery
Source: have had more than one phone with a busted casing due to a swollen battery
There probably isn’t a way around removing the battery, after more thought.
Eventually, unless the battery is properly managed, gas buildup may eventually win and turn it into a forbidden pillow. Controlled battery destruction/ventilation sounds like a fun, but lengthy science project for this problem, IMHO. Gasses need to escape the battery, but phone shouldn’t go boom in the process. Deep discharge + adding vent holes after may work in some way.
Lithium batteries mainly explode and cause fires mostly because of any stored energy and gas buildup that deformes the battery causing a short circuit and thus, fire, to my knowledge. The lithium isn’t as reactive with water because it isn’t pure lithium? My knowledge is extremely limited on keeping lithium from exploding. (I think I remember videos of lithium batteries being unrolled that still explode in water, charge or not.)
Satan?
Lulz! I mean, maybe though? It really depends on how you choose to enjoy your club nights, I suppose. ;)
Here is a random example of what we are working with, however:
Couldn’t you use a sheet of plastic they use for fingerprints in order to at least transfer it?
Probably not without damaging it further, but that is worth some additional research, for sure.
Probably clear coat it.
It sounds barbaric but probably nail polish could work also in a pinch.
Then put on a seethrough case.Likely a good option! The ink is proving to be super fragile, so a brush is out. I do have an airbrush, so I’ll experiment with that as well.
Go to an auto parts store and get some spray clear coat! Do a few layers
Not all clear coats react well with all markers.
Could easily dissolve the signatures and ruin it.
A spray fixative should do it. You can get it at an art supply store. I had a similar thing on glass and it worked great… but for display, not something going in and out of your pocket. Is that the actual phone or a case? Either way if the autograph is important to you its now a display piece.
The autograph is on the phone itself, and I have a durable Spiegan case for it. I head out to the art supply store tomorrow and see what options they have as far as spray fixatives go, for sure. (Thanks! Knowing the name of things is usually half the battle and “spray fixative” was not part of my regular vocabulary.)
The first idea is to seal it somehow, and then have the case protect it from daily wear. (When I get sad or something, I can just always have it with me to cheer me up in a pinch.)
But yes, I am also considering the option of this being a permanent display piece or simply even a moment I can simply keep etched in my memory.
I’d be concerned the case will rub on the fixative layer.
I don’t have an answer, just something to consider.
Maybe after the fixatine, a thin layer of plastic, similar to screen protector. Then the case.
META: It’s successful posts like these that show that Rule 5 of this community is misguided.
People want to ask and answer these types of “How do I…?” questions. There are no negative comments here. It adds value and activity to the community. They should be allowed.
Rule 5 should be changed.
There needs to be rules on what can and can’t be posted, otherwise, there’s no reason for communities, and we’d all need to just search a big bucket for whatever we were interested in, or just scroll forever.
That said, yeah, a question community should allow any type of question, and if over time, the “how do I…” questions take over, then so be it. This becomes help community, because that’s what the people want.
Upvoting and downvoting should be enough for the people to decide what they want for their community. It should not be so heavily guarded by mods. Moderation, not dictation.
Piefed’s new “block posts in a subscribed instance by tag” feature could be a really useful thing for this if it spreads to lemmy and mbin, so that posts like these can be tagged “help” or something and people who are happy with rule 5 can block them
only if the tag can also apply only to a community
I think it does, but the feature just came out and I haven’t interacted with it at all outside of seeing @rimu@piefed.social’s post yet so take that with a grain of salt
Yes, each community has it’s own separate tag/flairs.
https://piefed.social/c/piefed_meta@piefed.social/p/2216045/you-can-now-block-posts-based-on-their-flair
Thanks!
I think they could specify rule five to disallow questions that would be answered on the first page of any search engine or on the Q&A on a relevant site, but more complex questions like this should be allowed.
But I guess it’s easier to have a strict rule and look the other way/allow some posts to break it as long as no one complains, rather than to have loose/non-specific rules and constant arguments with OP+community about which side every post falls on and have to make a different judgement call for every complaint.
Scratch it.
A screen protection coating but on the back. Maybe first do a test on another phone
Hydrogel or glass back protector? I’m not sure what happens when you remove those though. But you might not need to
I was gunna say to encase it in resin, but I realized that’s the actual phone haha. Maybe practise pouring epoxy resin on surfaces, and see what it does to ink like that on surfaces like that… I think the heat might fuck with it, also you might want to use a torch on the resin to get rid of any bubbles (just ‘glancing’ passes with the torch, so it shouldn’t create that much more heat then the setting resin). Get the same brand of marker and a similar material; probably anything plastic would do. You’d then have to make some sort of mould that can attach to the phone in shape you like and sand it down afterwards.
Resin creates heat when setting, so it would be best if you take the phone back off… I doubt you can though so…
https://resinobsession.com/resin-frequently-asked-questions/how-to-layer-resin/
https://resinpassion.com/why-use-a-torch-to-get-rid-of-bubbles-on-epoxy-resin/
Encasing the phone would be a “solid” option if it weren’t for the lithium bomb that the phone contains. (I could probably just fully discharge it somehow, but bypassing the charge controller to make that happen would be problematic.)
A super thin coat of resin is still a good option and the heat may be manageable in that case. The phone body is designed to sink quite a bit of heat already, so likely not a serious issue.
Quite a bit to think on! Thanks! :)
