i think that’s quite different from Disney and Paramount, on a production level, trying very hard to overproduce both franchises and try very hard to pander to everyone all at once. Which we know is a surefire way to crash them.
I guess at least we got Andor though. It’s not all terrible, but it’s mostly pretty bad because they really aren’t like letting creative people do creative things with the franchises and tell compelling stories.
Let’s go all the way back to TMP with people indignant about how the Klingons looked. And somehow that got around before there was an internet to go crying to.
Star Trek vs Star Wars. I like both.
yeah but how do you feel about their bastardization in the past decade?
It’s worth pointing out that this comment could have been and was made in the 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, and today.
so TNG and DS9 were awful and terrible or something?
There were people at the time who certainly thought so.
true. there always are.
i think that’s quite different from Disney and Paramount, on a production level, trying very hard to overproduce both franchises and try very hard to pander to everyone all at once. Which we know is a surefire way to crash them.
I guess at least we got Andor though. It’s not all terrible, but it’s mostly pretty bad because they really aren’t like letting creative people do creative things with the franchises and tell compelling stories.
What, you weren’t there for the incessant “Kirk is better than Picard” bickering that basically formed the backbone of the early Internet circa 1990?
No, what are you, like 70?
You’ll never wring it out of me, sonny boy.
Let’s go all the way back to TMP with people indignant about how the Klingons looked. And somehow that got around before there was an internet to go crying to.
“That is not discussed with outsiders.”
The thing about that is, regardless of how we feel about the new stuff, we’ll always have the old stuff we loved.
As with everything else, the franchises have both undergone a shift of quantity over quality, so I haven’t bothered keeping up to date with either.
More like less quantity at a lower quality.
DS9 had 26 episode seasons.
Blasphemy!
Sincerely, someone who does not watch either.
This is the way.
Wait. They are two different things?
Let me blow your mind: Stargate is a third.
Stiens;Gate is fourth