I love this implication that they really can’t comprehend that those of us who oppose it largely don’t use it.
Like, who tf uses AI but is anti-ai?
I’m pretty anti AI. I don’t have a coding background but I would like to transition from sys admin. So I am learning but job has pushing to use AI to make faster results then I were to do it by hand :/ Still trying to learn out of work.
Don’t learn out of work, learn in work. But… I’m retired now, got out just in time.
Me. It’s so much slop but at the same time if I grab a bunch of text from a spec book or web, I can tell it to reformat the columns and strip out stuff in a single line.
I could do the same with grep, sed, sort, trim etc but it would take longer
I’m pretty anti-AI but my work is pushing it so hard on us that there are situations I have been forced to use it to show how incorrectly it is doing the work. Could def live without that.
That makes sense.
We hired this senior dev … when we asked what this PR (code change request) was, he didn’t know. He stammered and then regurgitated what AI told him. I had to tell him, he’s on thin ice if he thinks he can vibe his way through this job.
All his work is AI comments everywhere. I’m like, you didn’t read what you wrote. What fucking relevance is putting down all of this info? I said, if you don’t have the courtesy to read it, then why the fuck am I? There’s little respect for my time in dealing with those that use it so much.
So, yes, I can very much deal in a world without AI. It may be slower in some areas but yes I can. Especially if it means exposing all my shitty coworkers work habits.
Let me put it in tech bro speak: most of my AI usage has been suitability evaluation.
In layman terms: does this shit even do what it’s supposed to be doing.
It doesn’t. There are few limited tasks where LLMs can be genuinely used as a tool (my favourite example is image captioning) but it still needs hand holding and can’t work fully automatically. It’ll fuck up, and I’ll need my expertise to unfuck it.
They marketed AIs as “don’t worry, you can just use it as a tool”. It’s a tool that is sometimes useful. This is not a high endorsement.
Now: it’s my humble opinion one of the greatest tragedies of this AI boom is that it never should have been pushed to the mainstream. If LLMs had been left to the stage where they blatantly are now, they’d been left as marginal nerd toys. And all would have been well. But no, the Bros had to ruin it all and let us all discover myriad societal ills unfathomed by scifi authors. Thanks guys.
Claude was down yesterday.
The only reason I know was coworkers complaining about it in work chat.
I could even get through a workday without my smartphone, even tho those things have become a requirement in today’s society.
I can’t imagine how shit at your job you have to be that if AI disappeared you couldn’t get through a single day of work
I find these tech-bro dickheads hilarious
They look down on everyone else, genuinely believing themselves to be innately superior
I work with my hands.
I have an education, including a science degree, but I choose to do something that I enjoy and that I think contributes to this world
When the chips are down, guys like this are lost, useless, and little more than a hindrance
And of course, they’re utterly unable to see that they aren’t people of value
I’m an IT guy, I have worked in IT support since 2007. I have never ever ever needed AI for a single second in my job and seeing people use AI just annoys me.
Yes yes science and medicine people I know AI helps you.
that kind of mindset is why so many CEOs want to replace airheads like that guy with AI
The CEO is the airhead
Holy lack of self-awareness
I genuinely don’t understand how people get through their day WITH ai, I’ve experimented with integrating it, and it’s absolutely terrible. It sucks at everything beyond NLUI applications.
The most useful I’ve found it is saving me from looking up which tables data is stored in for certain security products and only because it is faster than using search engines now that they’re all useless.
I think I’ve used Google Lens at work once, to identify an electrical component. I want to see if it can read resistor values at some point.
But, I likely wouldn’t even notice if AI stopped working.
They had Google lens (machine learning) before chat gpt was released to the public (llm), so i don’t usually paint it by the same AI brush.
I’ve used it quite a few times and it works pretty well for identifying things.
I’ve had a similar problem using it though. Most of the time it’s bang on, but sometimes with really hard problems, it is confidently wrong, and returns a bunch of things that look similar but are significantly different from your picture. If you are used to it being correct and aren’t in the habit of thinking critically about its answer, it is easy to be mislead by its oracular answers.
Well, I regularly get the AI replies from Google searches, but i skip them. I am the only developer in my team who does not use AI. And sometimes I wonder if I’m the only one who can still think without crutches.
i wonder if most tech employees currently getting hired have to use alot of AI or they have experience in it?
There was that ad doing the rounds last year where the position required minimum 7 years experience with OpenAI or something.
As someone casually looking around the job market, it’s at least mentioned in so many job descriptions.
Work paid for ChatGPT and asked us to all use it. Not a hard requirement but they were insisting we try to use it to see if it could speed up work.
I’m in a Nordic country. I haven’t had an email longer than a single paragraph. Documents are already as concise with good organization. The documentation is optimized so AI “summaries” only translates it into longer form tech bro speak. Just looking it up directly is faster.
I needed to do batch operations on database files without providing admin access. The same database we all work on. It suggested i could do so with a script. This was a flat out lie, with multiple responses hitting the same block. I felt sick about using it so i dropped it for fear of them attempting to try it with admin access.
Haven’t used it since those few prompts. Yet i get monthly emails talking about how we’re running out of credits every month. I’m guessing one of my coworkers has an AI romance…
The company I work for paid for Claude and has made it mandatory that we use it. It’s actually insane.
We also have “Code Rabbit” leaving LLM reviews on our PRs. It’s hilarious how often it completely misses the actual change and just waxes eloquent on the formatting changes that our linter enforces when we commit a change to a file that hasn’t been touched since prior to our current linter rules.
Even crazier, I’ve had a VP complain to me directly how much he hates reading LLM generated text that someone just spat out at him.
Yet here we are, still required to use it.
My favorite part of AI PR reviews is that I’ll fix one of its comments, which leads to a new comment. I fix that one and the new review suggests I actually try just doing the implementation that I started with
Damn that sucks.
In glad I’m still mostly insulated from it by sector and good old enterprise class lack of investment in modernization.
“see if it could speed up work” is at least a reasonable request. I do wonder what the rest uses it for.
Yeah the company is treating it as an “exploration” but the experiment turned into a regular sub without much scrutiny like a streaming service you forgot you had opted into the trial for.
Oh god is that how the ai companies are gonna stay afloat…
This is my experience, but it seems polarising.
In the recent thread here about the doctolorow article an army of AI dweebs were proselytizing our great AI overlords.
I want to be open minded, and will remain so, but as yet I haven’t seen any significant clear benefits to the use of AI.
My observations are telling me it’s all emperors new clothes, but listening to the commentary of anyone not on Lemmy it would seem I am mistaken. I’m not arrogant enough to believe I’m right and everyone else is wrong, but this remains a mystery to me.
Benefits: further concentration of wealth and rapid damage to the environment.
AI isn’t awesome like meth though
Doesn’t give you meth mouth either ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Wasn’t that that one band that made the song for the first Shrek movie?
No that’s Smashmouth ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Bro I never started.
I worked for 30 years before it existed, and the first 10 of those there were barely an internet. Never had a problem. We had these things called books and libraries.
I’ve been testing the chat bots for about a year. What kind of idiot would trust any of their answers for their work?
One of the first questions i asked them for was the IRMAA Medicare Income Brackets. They got them wrong.
Just asked again. This time they got them right. I’d never trust them with anything important.
The trust thing is it for me. People are like, you could use them for your job, it’ll save you time. Like, it saves me exactly zero time if I have to go back and check its work, because that’s what I would’ve been doing anyway! And now, instead of my mistakes, which I’m very familiar with, I have the hallucinations of some machine to contend with.
It takes more time to use AI when you check the work because you are interacting with AI on top of checking the answers yourself.
It only saves time for people who don’t ever check anything.
I always think it’s weird when they say nobody could write 10 pages or whatever without AI. I write for a living and grew up before all of this (I didn’t have the internet until I was a teenager) and under the right conditions (IE a good amount of caffeine and people leave me alone) I can write 10,000 words in a single sitting lol.
I use to work for the army and flew a desk. By the time I retired my word smithing skills were great. Just put a pc in front of me and I will fill your document with all the relevant buzz words, needed to get managements and procurements buy in.
They are somewhat degraded now, I’m almost 70.
I work in plane manufacturing, the use of ai is prohibited except for looking up simple information regarding the company, majority of the employees won’t be affected except for maybe the higher ups writing a report or some other shit.
