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Religious people aren’t bothered or surprised at all when their prayers don’t come true. On the other hand, if their cell phone or car or air conditioner suddenly stops working without warning, they’re absolutely shocked and dismayed.
My point is that even the most religious people actually believe in science far more than they believe in their religion. They’re just too stupid to realize it.
There’s a reason why “virtue signalling” was a term originally coined to describe faith behaviors.
But what about his soul
no science --> no engineering --> no Kia
You’re missing part of the appeal. In the right column, there’s a huge pile of money going toward the design and production of that arm. In the left column, there’s a huge pile of money going to a faith healer’s private jet. Sure, functioning prosthetic arms are pretty cool, but private jets are super cool.
Amazing.
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Religion:
If have only 1 hand, to be happy, just have to join them both
No one prays harder than a scientist waiting for a peer review.
Please God, I just ask that reviewer number 2 comes to their fucking senses for 17 minutes to approve my paper.
I have a crack in my windshield and I feel this energy right now
It figures a religious nut would think it’s called a “car engine” light and not a “check engine” light.
I look at it this way in terms of spirituallity… (Aka psychopath minded religion excluded.)
Kid has 1 arm.
Community that doesn’t have the means or knowledge for science helps promote hope and faith that’s keeps the kid going.
Science does it’s thing, as it always has and creates an arm.
Kid is able to get the new arm because the community and faith helped keep his spirits up so he didn’t suicide out of hopelessness.
…The real enemy is the marketing and psychological manipulation tainting everything. It’s not just religions. It rapes everything for all that it can benefit from.
All major religions have people doing stuff that is to the benefit of the higher-ups in the religion and is to the disadvantage to the common believer.
But you’re right, it also happens outside of religion, like with capitalism and billionaires vs the working class.
Religion is just a means to keep the plebs from revolting.
Is all the charity that Christianity alone has done also to the disadvantage to the common believer?
Haha yes. In the greater scheme of things it definitely is. The Christian higher-ups rake in way more money than they spend on charity. Churches are often exempt from taxes, so whatever they spend on charity would have been better spent if they simply paid their fair share to the community. Every cent they get is though lies and deceit. Charity is just a way to make themselves feel good and to uphold the image that they are Good Samaritans. Some individuals may be just that, but Christianity? Definitely no.
Why not foster hope through science? Religion is unneeded for that.
Plus, if the situation was hopeless scientifically, the kid would be better off accepting reality than to endlessly hope for something that will never come. Just build with what he can instead of daydreaming about what can’t be.
Religion just doesn’t work as well if you don’t have a priest to molest the kid, this experiment ignores that and is therefore ipso facto dumbo, point blank period end of story nuff said
Meh. It’s not like religious people aren’t also doing science. Like most of my labmates are slightly religious (but I’m not lol).
It’s amazing the degree to which they can compartmentalize. When I was doing my post-doc there was a tech in the lab who was a young-Earth creationist. In a microbiology lab. Where we made mutants strains by using selective pressure. He was a good tech and a good guy, but WTAF?
can we stop with this early 2010s debate?
it’s bullshit all the way. Science is also used to create weapons which creates record numbers of amputees, and religion is still used as propaganda to justify those wars. And even with prosthetic limbs, access might be limited based on profitability.
the main difference is community support, class issues, capitalism…
Science and technology advancement by itself is dangerous if society doesn’t advance as well. regardless of the specific religion or lack thereof.
Saying that as an absolute science nerd with a STEM PhD,
science vs religion debate has been around at least since the 1980s.
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1982 to be exact, when Thomas Dolby was blinded with science much like Saul was once blinded by Jesus on the road to Damascus. It’s poetry in motion.
May the Reverend Magnus Pike be forever remembered.
that debate probably existed much earlier. wouldn’t surprise me if some shaman’s were upset at those high tech craftmen with copper tools and those craftmen though the chaman was crazy…
And even with prosthetic limbs, access might be limited based on profitability.
Let’s also not ignore the fact that many modern prosthetics just kind of suck in general. They’re getting better but they still aren’t great.
not sure how that field is going, but I’m still upset that a company managed to make working prosthetic eyes, gave blind people some sigh, went out of business, and suddenly all their clients went blind again. They wouldn’t make the code upen source because it was their intellectual property.
they didn’t get into the “bring sigh to the blind” business to help people, just for the business part.
Yeah that’s really shitty, just another shitty aspect of capitalism protecting businesses and not people. Actually actively screwing people over for money.
the main difference is community support, class issues, capitalism…
Guess we will rather see religion fade into oblivion, before we would see capitalism - with its inherent class issues - even show a surface crack… Sadly so I’m inclined to add.
religion is only allowed to exist if it benefits capitalism. at least the organized toxic ones
Another way this discussion is bullshit and leads nowhere is that religion can also explain everything science does. Oh the kid got a prosthetic arm? Yes, because put engineers in his path, it was all part of His plan. Kid losing the arm was also part of the plan BTW.
religion in itself isn’t a bad thing, fervant fanaticism is the dangerous part.
The atheist movement left a vacuum taken over by manosphere, and other toxic BS. How many cases are of scientific fanatics doing crimes against humanity for curiosity? unit 731? Mengele?
Thought the second religion image was suppose to be an Epstein joke
Not mutually exclusive though I can understand how the West’s experience has led them to that conclusion.
Though there are many scientists in the West that are religious.
One should understand that the purpose of prayer and community isn’t necessarily to improve material circumstances.
Faith healing works. I know because it cured me of my decapitation after I was cremated and my remains were fed to a giant lizard.
Religion: thoughts and prayers
Science: thoughts and peers
