• lemmylump@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Oprah.

    That cunt gave the anti vaccine idiots a platform and two charlatans a stage.

    Fuck Oprah, fuck “dr.” Phil and especially fuck dr. Oz!

    Oh and The Apprentice

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      She has such a bullshit rags to riches story that immediately falls apart because she’s a class traitor. She gave Oz a platform which has a direct through line to people like RFK/Joe Rogan. I’d argue she had a direct hand in the large movement of housewives that don’t believe in western medicine because she sells snake oil just like Oz and Phil.

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    Not a show, but there’s an absolutely wild rom-com christmas movie that came out in 2007 called Holiday in Handcuffs where a this young woman after getting broken up with again decides to just abduct a dude and drag him to the family’s cabin they rented up in the mountains, an they fall in love over the course of it and eventually he calls of his engagement to be with her. The premise is terrible, but it kinda circles all the way around into being so bad its good (and at points seems self-aware of how fucked up the whole premise is) and if you’re like my family, its worth tracking down to keep in the rotation of terrible holiday movies since it breaks up the malaise of Hallmark movies

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    The Dollhouse.

    A bunch of hyper-sexualized women held in coffins against their will in a state of childlike innocence. Intermittently, they have personalities downloaded into them, using computer technology, making them Alpha-powered super-assassins.

    When one of them gets too woke, she is suppressed, coerced, and gaslit into buying back into the fascist agenda of the faceless corporation running the Dollhouse.

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      As someone who’s never seen this, this sounds like a good premise for something horribly dystopian. Unless the series isn’t about how terrible this is…

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        I did.

        Do you me the Apocalypse wherein anyone ::: spoiler spoiler could be reprogrammed over a loudspeaker, or a telephone call ::: ?

        As we lurch toward our own Apocalypse — take your pick between environmental, economic, technological, political, nuclear, or any combination thereof — it seems that Epstein-island espionage elicits ick in every instance.

        That’s most of the series.

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      It’s just called Dollhouse

      They also have men not just women.

      And it’s basically like Westworld except they have more personalities vs just western.

      Its actually a very good show and is anti capitalist/ rich crazies

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        yes, thank you. OP really delivered a bad-faith description of the show. you’ve represented it more accurately.

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    Anything made by Dan Schneider, because he was outed as a huge creep. And even if he hadn’t been outed as a huge creep, the content in most of his shows, especially the foot stuff, is really inappropriate at times in hindsight given those shows were aimed at tweens and teens. Also, the guy was really bad about recycling plots.

    Like, really, Dirty Dan? You think your freaky stuff is appropriate viewing for people who are still in grade school in some cases? No wonder that guy was outed as a creep. And I thought some of his stuff was funny when I was still in his target demo and didn’t even know of the creepy on-set behavior until after I had been aged out of his shows for 20+ years… -sigh- Hindsight sucks.

    Although tbf, Dirty Dan is just a symptom of a far bigger problem in Hollywood. That doesn’t diminish his behavior in any way though, it just points towards deeper systemic rot that he was a result of. His on-set abuse was still awful, but he’s a symptom of Hollywood’s abusive culture, and not the root cause. The root cause for his behavior is decades of systemic industry-wide unmitigated rot that effectively allows those types of environments to exist.

    Manswers and 1000 Ways to Die are also kinda cringe trash in hindsight as well. Hell, that can be said for basically all of the former Spike TV’s library.

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      His on-set abuse was still awful

      Did he diddle kids? No.

      Did he script some things that adults would interpret as inappropriate sexually, but kids wouldn’t even notice? Yes.

      Had that writing technique been used in children’s programming for decades? Yes. Even The Flintstones had sexually inappropriate double-entendres meant to make adults giggle but children wouldn’t even notice.

      Dan Schneider’s Nickelodeon TV shows had excellent writing, acting, and music.

      I’m not defending him but I don’t understand why people continually lambaste him more than Brian Peck & others who actually DID rape kids?? It makes me sick to think about & talk about but it’s all in that documentary An Open Secret.

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      I dunno… Glee established itself from episode 1 to be about terrible people doing and saying terrible things. I think they hold true to that premise even moreso today.

      Big Bang Theory on the other hand kept pretending their protagonist was a good person just doing “geeky” things. That aged poorly for sure.

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    I feel like That 70’s Show would apply here… maybe not as poorly aged as some of the others mentioned but definitely in the running

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      Watching Friends without the laugh track Is fucking surreal. There’s so much dead time. So many frames of actors just staring at each other lol

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        Married with Children is really hilarious for this because the live audience would just go nuts when the main cast would first appear in an episode. So many scenes where they come through a door and then just stand there for 30+ seconds holding a pose and making adorably smug faces.

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      If there was a live audience that makes more acceptable for me, I just think of it like a stage play.

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    I’ve tried to re-watch Sex and the City but its impossible. I loved it back in the day.

    Also the West Wing - I’m sure its still good but the current state of politics makes it look like satire.

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      The West Wing is a fantasy show about how you wish politics worked. Then we got Veep, which is how we thought politics really worked. Now we realize Veep was also a fantasy.

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        Veep still holds.

        It ends with

        spoiler

        ___the VP being a racist idiot promoting Christian math vs. the bad Muslim one who’s married his own sister. The president gets elected by giving Tibet back to China and banning same-sex marriage. The last thing we hear from her is “Shalom, David! So what did the Palestinians do this time?”. I mean… can it be any more perfect?

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    House, MD is a top contender.

    A lot of his edgy jokes were made in a time where being politically incorrect was daring and spicy, but now it just makes him come across as a bigot

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      I think they put the focus on everything that wasn’t the premises of the show. I remember reading that they changed the plot because they test audience didn’t like that well they got sick and they ded.

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      But he is a bigot. And an asshole. I’ve never felt like the series was trying to represent House as a role model. He gets the consequences of his behaviour all the time, but never learns. People keep him around because he’s good at his job, and that’s it. Otherwise everyone gets tired of his shit real quick.

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    eureka. i tried to rewatch it recently and its… oof. one of the main characters has an autistic son who is a savant and they talk about hopefully finding a cure for autism someday. meanwhile pretty much all the scientists and engineers show actual autistic traits that im sure the writers thought were just quirky smart people traits. meanwhile the sheriffs house is voiced by a male character trying to do a womans voice and haha isnt it funny how its kind of inappropriate towards him constantly because its a dude doing a girl voice? then the constant perpetuation of stereotypes, nerd/jock bullshit, and really bad science thats just magic with a technological paint job.

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      autistic son who is a savant and they talk about hopefully finding a cure for autism someday

      Dude this is the most nails on chalkboard trope of TV. I can’t stand the autistic savant trope

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      10 days ago

      The 1990 House of Cards is the one that deserves to be remembered.

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        1990 House of Cards

        I haven’t seen this, but as far as politics go, I think West Wing is probably on list of Aged Poorly in how massively naive it was about American politics; whereas as Veep is chef’s kiss.

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      24 was insanely good when it was a new thing and then quickly devolved into “wait, you’re torturing a teenager on a hunch and that’s okay?”. Not worth the rewatch.

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      My favorite part of that is when he has to drive across the city. It would be like an entire episode of him sitting in traffic. They neglect it entirely.

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        How fast he travels is what killed the show for me. It’s been quite a while, but I seem to remember him traveling across the country/world multiple times in a 24 hour span.

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        Most everything in 24 could be solved with a text message. Later seasons they had to get creative just to explain why cell phones are out of the picture.