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      No … “own the libs no matter what” is a terminal disease.

      The average Republican would staple their nutsack to a wall if it meant they could troll a liberal by doung it.

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        i mean i literally caught the town’s biggest right wing troll spray painting “let’s go brandon” on his own garage and fence, trying to make it look like vandalism. did the shittiest job of it too

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      ** Half of Americans who are eligble voters and who decided to vote on Nov 5th, 2024.

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        The ones who didn’t vote for the only option other than Trump are equally bad people as Republicans, though I assume most of them just got hit with a propaganda brick, which brings us to the ineligible: among those who first became eligible in 2024 we saw the biggest shift rightward in decades among youth thanks to TikTok, Twitter, Google, etc intentionally radicalizing them.

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      It is not half of Americans. It is at least 66% of them. A third of all Americans voted for Trump. Another third sat out and consciously chose not to vote. Then a third voted against him.

      The majority of Americans approve of the governance and current state of the US.

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        I do not see how you equate not voting with Trump support when you’re literally on the “Kamala wasn’t left enough for me” website. And I’m speaking as someone who does think those people are fucking stupid and that they’re about as or maybe even less likely to start a revolution than people who did vote.

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          I’m not who you replied to but I have a similar view.

          For me, it’s not “you didn’t vote, so you support Trump”, it’s “you didn’t vote, which says you were fine with any of the available candidates, how they presented themselves, and their plans for this nation. You were fine with any of them being President.” Anybody who was fine with Trump being President gets criticism from me.

          Hell, I give more credit to somebody who put a write-in vote for “my cat: Sir Fluffykins, esq. III” because at least that person would make their voice heard that no candidate was acceptable.

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          This is an open source forum similar to Reddit. It is not a dedicated site for American non-voters. It is very American to assume it is solely for them though. High off of your own farts, the lot of you.

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            They do.

            But it’s not a Republican vs Democrat thing. It’s empathy vs not. As a social species, I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that those without empathy are fundamentally broken and need fixing. You can’t have a functioning society with no empathy. And we benefit from a functioning society.

            But there is a fix. Empathy can be learned. It’s not magic, it’s practice. And those who refuse to learn shouldn’t be welcome in society.

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                I am not part of the discussion but you answered to a completely civil argument. People not agreeing with you is not a bad thing. If you think you are right, make counter points. Otherwise try to guess why their views differ and over think your own opinion. It is a good thing to get convinced by somebody else’s opinion, both win in that case.

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                Your logic results in deranged people killing and abusing non deranged people “who just want to reason”.

                You cannot reason with zealots who want you dead. This is a suicidal mindset that you have. Why not just give up and let the bad guys win?

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                i just want to comment that what you say is sane from a political point of view. don’t listen to the knee-jerk reaction here, it’s “monkey sees enemy, monkey clicks button” type of stuff.

                just to give some examples, the big historical movements like religion in the medieval ages were successful largely because they managed to unify all people in society somehow. by providing common grounds. and that’s the same ideals of humanity, of democracy, that people claim to defend on here.

                we can’t protect democracy by taking away the humanity, by not considering the other one human anymore. because at that point, democracy is already dead.

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                You just think I’m the other guy. I didn’t say dehumanize. I said they’re not suitable for society and need to be fixed.

                They’re still human. They’re just douchebags. And we don’t have to tolerate those.

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            Because one of them wants to eliminate a class of people. The other just doesn’t want to be around the people who want to eliminate a class of people. They just want to be left to their devices.

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                “They don’t think like that. You can’t keep claiming 2+2=4 and that the clear sky is blue; you have to meet their hateful delusions halfway!”

                No. Your argument is deranged, dishonest nonsense.

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                  You are meeting their hateful delusions by sinking to their level.

                  90% of them arent even thinking about the actions they’re taking with any real depth. Treating the quiet ones the same as the loud ones allows them to sink further and further into their delusions, because honestly they just dont know any better. Yelling in their face about how they’re nothing but inhuman monsters isnt going to change their minds. And considering their dominance, if you don’t change their minds these problems will continue.

                  The solution to division isnt more division.

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    I suppose this is the logical outcome of rabid individualism. It wasn’t their kids that were abused, but it’s their bank account getting drained at the gas station.

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      You can’t discount the underlying threads of misogyny throughout maga. Some women made a claim. Who can really believe them. Let’s be real.

      And let’s not forget the coining of the phrase “underage women” either.

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        True that has to be a factor a well. As it turns out they have no issues applying the misogyny to children too.

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      I told you once that I was searching for the nature of evil. I think I’ve come close to defining it: a lack of empathy. It’s the one characteristic that connects all the [Nuremberg] defendants. A genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow man. Evil, I think, is the absence of empathy.

      G. M. Gilbert

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      Not to give excuses for people but it’s also perfectly reasonable to express concern for something that directly affects one’s daily life, rather than an abstract system of domination.

      Moral evaluation is overridden when one’s purchasing power and thus livelihood is threatened. The Yellow Vests in France started because of a gas price hike, and then transformed into a political movement. The Boston Tea Party into the American Revolution. Police Corruption in Tunisia into the Arab Spring… It always starts with concrete issues and then expands in critic of the system.

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    How about a little compassion? The fatasses need to drive their monster trucks to get McDonald’s! Won’t someone think about the fatass monster truck drivers?

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    Someone else’s children are two whole levels removed from the heart of a selfish person. High petrol prices stab at the selfish heart directly, and so something must be done.

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    Gas prices are the actual red line for a significant segment of Americans. The world can be on fucking fire, but it’s ok as long as gas is cheap.

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    It has to affect them personally before they draw their own opinion

    Every other opinion they have is received through their cult’s regular programming

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      100 percent. All my friends say stupid shit and I’m like what if that happened to you? “It would never bro”

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        I recently learned that an austism symptom is a strong sense of justice that is not swayed easily.

        I always wondered why i cared so much more about doing the right thing instead if what people think is right or what law says.

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      Sadly it is a very human thing. Most people are entirely content to ignore anything outside their monkeysphere.

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      actually i thought of this recently and came up with the concept of a “coherence length” which describes the distance up to which you still care about things … so if it’s 50 km then you care about things that happen within 50 km around you.

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    As someone unfortunately living in the states, I would like to apologize for our idiotic population