Americans (and people in general) will outrage for the things the media tells them to outrage.
Psh, I outrage over other things too. Like why the fuck does uncooked cabbage look similar enough to lettuce that when I ask my spouse to get lettuce she comes back with cabbage! Now I have to ask for spinach or spring mix to ensure I get a product usable for the task! Outrage I tell you. The developers need to amend the color of all cabbage to purple, and add nutrients to iceberg lettuce while keeping it cheap.
Earth v2.61 review 4.7/10
Edit: also cheeseburgers should grow on trees in clusters with peels like bananas so they don’t kill excessive animal life and don’t get rained on. Just peel the outside and pull out the cheeseburger, bun and all. Different plant varieties having preset condiments/seasonings would be nice as well.
what the media tells them to outrage about and about things they can observe in their own life, such as higher gas prices.
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half of americans
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they will never draw the line, Republicanism is a terminal disease
No … “own the libs no matter what” is a terminal disease.
The average Republican would staple their nutsack to a wall if it meant they could troll a liberal by doung it.
Thats exactly what the person you are replying to said…
i mean i literally caught the town’s biggest right wing troll spray painting “let’s go brandon” on his own garage and fence, trying to make it look like vandalism. did the shittiest job of it too
It is not half of Americans. It is at least 66% of them. A third of all Americans voted for Trump. Another third sat out and consciously chose not to vote. Then a third voted against him.
The majority of Americans approve of the governance and current state of the US.
I do not see how you equate not voting with Trump support when you’re literally on the “Kamala wasn’t left enough for me” website. And I’m speaking as someone who does think those people are fucking stupid and that they’re about as or maybe even less likely to start a revolution than people who did vote.
This is an open source forum similar to Reddit. It is not a dedicated site for American non-voters. It is very American to assume it is solely for them though. High off of your own farts, the lot of you.
If you thought I was being literal, I don’t know what to tell you.
I’m not who you replied to but I have a similar view.
For me, it’s not “you didn’t vote, so you support Trump”, it’s “you didn’t vote, which says you were fine with any of the available candidates, how they presented themselves, and their plans for this nation. You were fine with any of them being President.” Anybody who was fine with Trump being President gets criticism from me.
Hell, I give more credit to somebody who put a write-in vote for “my cat: Sir Fluffykins, esq. III” because at least that person would make their voice heard that no candidate was acceptable.
they will never draw the line, Republicanism is a terminal disease
that’s why they have so many children, otherwise they would die off …
** Half of Americans who are eligble voters and who decided to vote on Nov 5th, 2024.
Not voting was still a vote in and of itself. I hold them responsible too.
ah, a consequentialist. so you take responsibility for Trump’s election, as well, right?
The ones who didn’t vote for the only option other than Trump are equally bad people as Republicans, though I assume most of them just got hit with a propaganda brick, which brings us to the ineligible: among those who first became eligible in 2024 we saw the biggest shift rightward in decades among youth thanks to TikTok, Twitter, Google, etc intentionally radicalizing them.
Oh yeah, dehumanizing political enemies, it can’t go wrong
They dehumanized themselves … We just calling it out.
Why shouldn’t conservatives claim that we, liberals, are dehumanizing ourselves by supporting trans rights for example? Why?
Because one of them wants to eliminate a class of people. The other just doesn’t want to be around the people who want to eliminate a class of people. They just want to be left to their devices.
They don’t think like that. You can’t fight radicalization with radicalization.
“They don’t think like that. You can’t keep claiming 2+2=4 and that the clear sky is blue; you have to meet their hateful delusions halfway!”
No. Your argument is deranged, dishonest nonsense.
I’m not saying that you shouldn’t protect trans rights or anything like that. I’m just saying that dehumanizing around 30% of the country is a bad idea and is completely counterproductive.
You are meeting their hateful delusions by sinking to their level.
90% of them arent even thinking about the actions they’re taking with any real depth. Treating the quiet ones the same as the loud ones allows them to sink further and further into their delusions, because honestly they just dont know any better. Yelling in their face about how they’re nothing but inhuman monsters isnt going to change their minds. And considering their dominance, if you don’t change their minds these problems will continue.
The solution to division isnt more division.
They do.
But it’s not a Republican vs Democrat thing. It’s empathy vs not. As a social species, I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that those without empathy are fundamentally broken and need fixing. You can’t have a functioning society with no empathy. And we benefit from a functioning society.
But there is a fix. Empathy can be learned. It’s not magic, it’s practice. And those who refuse to learn shouldn’t be welcome in society.
Fuck it. I’m no longer responding to this thread. If you can’t understand that dehumanizing them and attacking their ideals is bad (politically bad) I don’t have anything else to say.
We need to reason with them, not fight. Everyone believes what they’re doing is good, if you attack that, you’re the bad one and they won’t listen to you anymore.
You just think I’m the other guy. I didn’t say dehumanize. I said they’re not suitable for society and need to be fixed.
They’re still human. They’re just douchebags. And we don’t have to tolerate those.
Your logic results in deranged people killing and abusing non deranged people “who just want to reason”.
You cannot reason with zealots who want you dead. This is a suicidal mindset that you have. Why not just give up and let the bad guys win?
i just want to comment that what you say is sane from a political point of view. don’t listen to the knee-jerk reaction here, it’s “monkey sees enemy, monkey clicks button” type of stuff.
just to give some examples, the big historical movements like religion in the medieval ages were successful largely because they managed to unify all people in society somehow. by providing common grounds. and that’s the same ideals of humanity, of democracy, that people claim to defend on here.
we can’t protect democracy by taking away the humanity, by not considering the other one human anymore. because at that point, democracy is already dead.
You can’t reason with someone who wants you dead. Simple as that.
I am not part of the discussion but you answered to a completely civil argument. People not agreeing with you is not a bad thing. If you think you are right, make counter points. Otherwise try to guess why their views differ and over think your own opinion. It is a good thing to get convinced by somebody else’s opinion, both win in that case.
Because factual reality exists.
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If gas prices continue to increase I might eventually draw some type of line!
Maybe even a strongly worded letter
There will be slamming, maybe even blasting.
According to the documents the man sold children at auction to be raped.
Thats beyond abuse.
That’s modern day slavery. Almost as if it never left, and we should have killed the traitorous Confederate bastards and left their bodies to hang as a reminder.
That’s a movie villain
He was in movies, and he’s a villain, so that tracks.
Trump directing Kevin McAllister away from danger is the most unbelievable thing about Home Alone 2
“The safest place for you to be is on my friend’s Island.”
…from Taken.
Captain Planet villains aren’t that cartoonishly evil.
Gas prices are the actual red line for a significant segment of Americans. The world can be on fucking fire, but it’s ok as long as gas is cheap.
In fact, most Americans didn’t like what was in Epstein files and Trump support fell substantially following the release of them.
If that were true, not a single republican would ever win an election again. Yet here we are…
And yet he’s still fighting wars of aggression and dismantling democracy.
Almost like it takes more than whining about it on the internet to affect change.
I suppose this is the logical outcome of rabid individualism. It wasn’t their kids that were abused, but it’s their bank account getting drained at the gas station.
You can’t discount the underlying threads of misogyny throughout maga. Some women made a claim. Who can really believe them. Let’s be real.
And let’s not forget the coining of the phrase “underage women” either.
True that has to be a factor a well. As it turns out they have no issues applying the misogyny to children too.
I told you once that I was searching for the nature of evil. I think I’ve come close to defining it: a lack of empathy. It’s the one characteristic that connects all the [Nuremberg] defendants. A genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow man. Evil, I think, is the absence of empathy.
G. M. Gilbert
Not to give excuses for people but it’s also perfectly reasonable to express concern for something that directly affects one’s daily life, rather than an abstract system of domination.
Moral evaluation is overridden when one’s purchasing power and thus livelihood is threatened. The Yellow Vests in France started because of a gas price hike, and then transformed into a political movement. The Boston Tea Party into the American Revolution. Police Corruption in Tunisia into the Arab Spring… It always starts with concrete issues and then expands in critic of the system.
I 100 percent think this thought process is what got us here in the first place.
In france we don’t elect known rapist pedophiles though, your thought process is flawed IMO.
Nah you elect the victim. Jk, jk…
No indeed, instead of being elected they get appointed as members of the government by Emmanuel Macron
But at the same time those same people are in panic about stuff like trans people and public bathrooms. Which has never and will never affect them personally.
I’d bet 99% of those idiots have either never met or seen a trans person, or even more likely had no idea if they did. Its a complete distraction.
Yep. A vulnerable minority to conveniently demonise, straight out of the fascist playbook.
It has to affect them personally before they draw their own opinion
Every other opinion they have is received through their cult’s regular programming
How about a little compassion? The fatasses need to drive their monster trucks to get McDonald’s! Won’t someone think about the fatass monster truck drivers?
Someone else’s children are two whole levels removed from the heart of a selfish person. High petrol prices stab at the selfish heart directly, and so something must be done.
They don’t, they don’t draw the line there, i saw them going on tv about how higher prices are worth it, they’re cultists
Lemmy be like:
I can excuse childlike sex dolls, but I draw the line at AI.
Wait. Childlike sex dolls? WTF?
What are you on about
Tbf the comments saying the dolls are ok have 1/3 the updates than the ones that say that banning them is good
Thankfully it is like that now. But earlier it was fucking scary. 60 upvotes to my downvote. This was the top comment:
From a pragmatic point of view, I guess I agree, I’d much rather somebody use a piece of plastic than harm an actual child.
I’m not a sympathetizer, but I’m realistic. PDFs exist, and if there’s an outlet that can reduce harm to others, removing that because you simply find the imagery gross isn’t helping anything and you may actually be contributing to the problem.
At no point is there a choice between harming a child or a childlike doll. There is only the choice to facilitate pedophilia or to not, these things enable it. You have a fundamentally deranged concept that seems to try to frame this as “would you rather I rape a childlike doll or a real child?”. The appropriate response to that is violence.
Really? Those are the only choices? Who decided that?
You seem to hold yourself in very high esteem; you do realize that you are not the moral arbiter of the world, yes?
Simply eliminating the sale of dolls does nothing to deter pedophilia, the only thing it does is make people feel like they got a “win” against “the bad guys”.
This is a pretty nonsensical hill to die on.
“the bad guys”
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holy💩
🙇♀️🙇♀️ going to !libjerk
As someone unfortunately living in the states, I would like to apologize for our idiotic population
Depends on whether or not the Dow is over 50k
That’s just humans.
My mom tells me to “stop worrying about the sky falling, worry about yourself first” in response to every time I criticize any regime in the world
Monarchy was abandoned. Now we have a lot of little kings and queens.
Oh fun fact: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_emperor_syndrome
My older brother was gonna be a “little emperor” but then my mom gave birth to me in violation of the One Child Policy… so now we have a beef… kinda feels like those Chinese TV Dramas about Emperors and their sons fighting to become the heir…
My mom constantly tell about some cousin that made millions on a business trip abroad and be like: “why aren’t you like them”
Criticism against the system is dismissed, any issues you face is a character flaw, depression doesn’t exist, “just be better”
Like I doubt my parents care about ethics… hypothetically I could be in the mafia and make billions selling illegal drugs and she’d be “proud” as long as I don’t get caught. Or some extremely corrupt politician.
The takeaway I got from my parents is that: “Money = Good”
