And no, please dont suggest homeless shelters, those are just unsafe and very demoralizing.
The very first thing I looked for (and forgive me for this, this is gonna be a controvertial one here) is the military, because thats just what lots of reddit threads mentioned, and like it would be an immediate exit from a toxic household, and yes, that would mean enduring an institution thats also kinda toxic, but thats only a few years and you’re free, and its much more predictable. Except they dont accept anyone with depression and you have to prove you’re “fine” for probably 36 months to even get a waiver. So that’s crossed off as an option.
Jobcorps, well thats for low income families, and being a dependent means your parents income is what counts so i dont qualify
Americorps NCCC, well that seems seasonal and the next thing doesnt start till like months later (not sure if I’m even reading the website correctly)
Ngl I lowkey just thought of enlisting so once I finish that, next time we meet, I could stand in front of my toxic brother just staring at him menacingly, like whatcha gonna do, fight with an ex-soldier? Not to mention the prestiege of veteran status. And btw its only 1% thats acrually ever gonna face real combat so its not like WW1&2 trench warfare, its mostly just logistics, and like a civillian job, you’d be contributing to shareholder value anyways so there isnt really much of a “moral highground” either way, except working a retail job or some shit is very demoralizing but military has the reverance. And also
But anyways I’m not eligible anytime soon anyways. I doubt I’m even “manly” enough for it.
Bruh idk what to do really, you know that one movie, Parasite where like they work in a rich person’s mansion and that shit. I’m not a fan of rich people but like I lowkey wanna like just “housesitter” and chill in some nice mansion with great views, and maybe even find secrets and become a movie plot. (edit: okay this part I’m half joking, its more like a fantasy daydream of “I get to be in a movie plot” probably unrealistic for someone that never been in proximity of high wealth)
I’m in Philly, PA btw.
(Also should I pack light with just a backpack and just one or two change of clothes and laundry often or just carry every clothing I could fit in a suitcase?)
Not to mention the prestiege of veteran status.
You might be surprised how little valor actually exists. Sure, people might “thank you for your service.” There’s basically zero other upside. And people like me will resent you for furthering empire. Read “War is a Racket,” by Smedley Butler. It’s short. Basically a pamphlet.
I doubt I’m even “manly” enough for it.
Fuck that shit. They let women in the military, so how manly do you have to be.
I’m sorry that I don’t have advice in the direction you’re asking. I recognize hopelessness because I’ve been there a fucking lot. I don’t know your situation, but I can tell that you want out. The best I have for you is a promise that it can (not will) get better. Stick with it. It’s fucking hard. Keep going. There’s sometimes no point. I promise that you can be happy. Just fucking keep going. I don’t know you, but I love you and hope you make it.
Nuker. Got a nuke plant nearby?
80k a year white training isn’t unheard of, two years training, get RO, then SRO and you’re pulling down 200k. Plant dependent. Union plants obviously pay significantly better than non-union plants (like, +50% better). Certification is plant specific, so pick your plant carefully.
You need a GED and to pass the POSS test. POSS is basically the SAT for power plant operators. If you do shitty, you can get a job in a coal plant. If you do okay, you can get a job in an oil plant. Do well, they’ll let you work in a nuke plant. Test is very focused on basic mechanical concepts.
“I work with nuclear materials” is definitely a good icebreaker xD
But then you go to a bar and people be like “oh be careful, I heard he’s radioactive (literally)” 💀
Start an apprenticeship as welder. Welding is lucrative.
Military is the fastest means to your end. As for the depression bit, you’d have to fake it until you make it.
Jobcorps in Philly doesn’t have living spaces. If you were to give it an attempt, you would have to move to a different facility that does offer living assistance.
A bit slower but more likely is going to be joining a trade. Carpenters claim to want more members, but they’re kind of terrible with keeping people working, plumbers usually need people, electricians definitely need people, and the masons have the deepest need for workers.
Unethical advice: look on Craigslist or other job seeking site for a canvassing job. It’s much easier if it’s political. They will sometimes give a list of addresses, residents age, political affiliation. Look for an elderly lady 70+, and do your canvassing thing, ask if they would possibly have a room you’d maybe be able to use/rent in return for your help around the house. Explaining whatever your going through briefly may help.
Apprentice programs in your area for plumbing or electrical. Oil field work, PA still has a lot of jobs in coal that will eventually pay well
It seems like you are just shooting down every idea that people try to provide. Based on your responses, I’m going to assume you’re in your late teens or early 20s
I was in the military, and you absolutely should not enlist if you’re doing it for some sort of prestige or bragging rights. What the military is really great for is teaching young people a lot of skills, very quickly. But its not without its shortcomings. If you have depression, I would say look into something else because it is not an easy career field and it will likely take a major toll on your mental health, just like it does for everyone.
What I would suggest is using your situation to learn. You said you’re not in any sort of immediate danger, so it just sounds like your personality doesn’t mesh well with the others in your household. Unfortunately, that is a part of life. You’ll always meet people that you don’t see eye to eye with. Learning how to deal with those people and interact with them is an important life skill. Tough it out for a while, get some sort of education in a trade that interests you, and then move out. I have a friend who is in his mid 30s that has had pretty bad social anxiety and general anxiety his whole life. He just started a trade school program, and he’ll be done within a year. If you’re serious about getting out, work a shitty part time job, live at home for a while, and work on a trade school program. The time spent at school and work means you won’t be at home much, and before you know it, you’ll be working a much more fulfilling job.
Most states have some sort of workforce development program to help you find a career. Pennsylvania has a program called CareerLink. I would highly suggest starting there.
https://www.pa.gov/agencies/dli/programs-services/workforce-development-home/pa-careerlink-
If you have diagnosed depression/anxiety, you may even qualify for a special program to assist individuals with disabilities.
You aren’t going to completely change your entire life over night. Have a little patience, put in the work, and it will pay off before you know it. Good luck.
You probably could teach English in Korea. It’s a bit of a cost upfront but you get a place covered and your investment of training will be paid off fairly quick. You don’t even have to learn Korean. It’s fairly cheap get by unless you’re a booze hound like me.
Yeah about that… I think basically most countries that are stable will require a college degree. South korea require a bachelors degree.
I looked into Taiwan and you still need at minimum an associates degree just to teach at private “cram schools”
Its kinda weird tho, they make you go through hoops but its still feels like a “gig” job what what I’ve read.
So, I don’t have the link on hand but there’s two tiers. If you can speak, read, write you will get to teach regular schools. Then if you have a teaching degree, you get more money and you can teach in the I guess higher schools. I mean I plan to do this when I retire, if there’s a world left lol
Have you heard of WOOFing? You can get room and board at farms all over the world to go help out with their crops or whatever they need. It’s not always farming and it’s often a cool community!
Pick a trade at a community college and get to it.
Or go get a help desk job (as you said you want to do IT) and start learning on the job. Pay will be shit. Hours will be long, but you will learn and you will start networking and you can rise through the ranks. A lot of us who are making 6 figures started out doing help desk.
You gotta do your time in the trenches.
There’s an easy short-term answer: Temp agency. It’s stressful because you don’t know if you have work until the last minute and half your coworkers will be horrible, but it’s work that requires nothing more than a pulse.
You could also see if the sports arenas are hiring. They may be mostly staffed for the season now, but they pull a lot of workers and tend to lose a good chunk each year. Best bet for stability would be kitchen, warehouse, etc since those work both between events and on event days.
In my experience garbage collection tends to pay very well relatively and requires no special education. It is taxing on the body though so not something for the long long term. Though this may be different in the US
Yay, getting poked by random drug needles sounds fun! I love Philly!
But serious tho, I rather do retail and have a face off with a “karen” than doing that
- I did it myself for 3 years in a drug-heavy areawhile working on my comp sci degree. didn’t touch a needle in the trash once. (+ You should be wearing at least basic protective gear. And you touch mostly trash containers, not like you’re swimming in people’s trash)
- yeah it’s a nasty job with early hours. That’s the point. Nobody wants to do it, law of supply and demand -> it’s an opportunity to make a good living.
- I’ve scrolled in this thread a little and you can find a reason for every single job why you can’t/don’t want to do it, especially the ones that will allow you to stand on your own. You’re talking about wanting your story to be one of overcoming adversity? Well you’ll have to accept living in adversity. Maybe it’s time to look at the job opportunities you can find and evaluate if you prefer doing those + living in e.g. a small appartment of your own over being stuck in your shitty home situation.
Got a bank? Pull out a personal loan. Just gotta make sure you’ve got a job at all to pay it off once you make that kind of a leap.
look at getting a job on a shipping barge if you can. there’s all sorts of support staff like medics, cooks, IT, etc, that work on barges. you’ll get to travel around the world, “free” room and board, and you’re paid quite well since you can’t leave once you’re on deck.
can you take some community college and are you ok with blood. phlebotomy is one course and you can make above minimum wage within a thing that limits the applicant pool. if you take a few more courses they will generally pay you a bit better and you could use that as a springboard toward nursing.
CNA school is also usually only 3 months but is pretty physically intensive and you’re stuck with the same patients for the whole shift which sucks if they’re unpleasant.
yeah this guy wants to get out of the house fast though. there is enough demand and it has a nice ability to keep on expanding if you can handle whats needed for each degree level.
Ok I know this really isn’t what you’re after, but have you considered taking 6 months to hike a long distance trail such as the AT or PCT? It only costs a few thousand for all the gear and permits and gets you out on your own for a good many months. Along the way you will develop survival and social skills which may find you in a better paying job. And for your dickhead brother, you could brag about that journey.
A few thousand? I bet you could cut it down a lot more than that.In good weather, you just need a tarp to keep dry in the rain. You just really need food, and armies used to march on hard tack for months. Bring some multivitamins and some protein source (peanuts?) and I think you’d probably be ok? [Source: Thinking but not doing, feel free to correct.]
And if you’re just avoiding reality, you don’t need to travel 20 miles a day, so you don’t need expensive boots, doubly so if you’re travelling light.
I mean, in theory, I think you’re right. But while a $200 build out is possible & miserable, a $2000 build out can be something actually enjoyable.
Also, you should always keep some escape money in case you get injured and need a hotel for a night or two. Even for things like hard tack, while technically possible I guess, you would still need some mechanism to make hard tack at scale. I would not encourage this option for people that aren’t able to dedicate $3k-$5k for all gear/food/permits/hotels/etc.
Hard tack is just flour mixed with water baked into an oven until it’s dry. Easy enough to make at home, but you’d have to carry it, and if you wanted to make it on the trail, you’d have to carry a pan and the flour and the water and hope you can get some firewood.
I still think your $2,000 price point is past the point of comfort and into luxury for fair weather camping, but I haven’t priced anything out in a while. I think I got a decent pack for $200, boots for $150, bag for about $100, tent $300. Water filter. I don’t want to bother with cooking, so I never bought any cooking equipment.
And if you’re just trying to get out of a depressing and abusive household, holing up in a tent with a book until the rain ends is an improvement; dang, I do want some rain gear, though.
What are these permits? When I was looking into the AT, there were designated camping areas which maybe you could reserve or occupy, but there were stretches of trail which were just designated as “go ahead and camp anywhere around here.”
For a few regions such a smoky mountains you need permits ($30-$60 depending on region, but you need a few for the entire journey)
The main category you’re missing is just food & fuel. Even for just hardtack (which is in the ‘survival’ range not ‘comfort’), 3000 calories of flour costs about $1 according to google. Across 6 months on the trail that’s $180 for the flour, plus another $200+ for the fuel. But more realistically you will want some fruits and veggies and meats and so on. Which pumps it up to $1k for the trip even while also eating a lot of hard tack.
