With Daylight Savings once again coming up, it never fails for it to spark discussions about its purpose in modern times. People hate it widely while few seem to be okay with it and depending where you live, others don’t even know what the deal is.

Politicians have actually put it on the docket to be voted on, but seems to have lost traction. Quite frankly, this is an issue that should be done and over with. Just end it, but please end it when we have the clocks dialed back than forward, because I wouldn’t like time going faster than it already is.

  • HubertManne@piefed.social
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    22 days ago

    People with young kids do not want daylight savings time all year around because it would be dark when they go to school. People like myself would like dst all year around because we hate it being dark at 4pm.

    • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
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      22 days ago

      I hate this argument. Sorry.

      Just start school later. The day is the same either way, choose to have school hours or winter hours.

      And by the way, even if it is dark, so what? There are kids all over the world that go to school in the dark it really doesn’t matter.

      Just shift you schedule accordingly, the number really doesn’t matter much.

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        21 days ago

        Yeah I don’t find especiall persuasive myself but let me tell you. You want to control a population then make sure they have kids. Because nothing is going to matter for that person at that point over their kids (or most people anyway). So voting wise anyway you basically have this large group that are going to go ape trump on anyone suggesting it. Changing the school day has issues because its time has to fit with parents major work schedules. so the 9 to 5. The school day starts just after 8 partially so they can drop off the kids then go to work. No idea how they are picking them up but I can say my wfh places was pretty easy going with parents being on meetings while in the car picking up kids or taking 20 mins to do it.

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    22 days ago

    Neither time matters, it’s all the same. But don’t change it!

    Its the adjustment that sucks.

    Daylight is going to be the same length either way, it’s just an arbitrary number, but if you keep changing that number it gets very annoying.

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        21 days ago

        I don’t agree universally, from a societal standpoint, because Dolly Parton sang about the 9-5. While standard time keeps my noon within 20 minutes of zenith, my temperate zone winter solstice sun rises at 7am (I get up at 8) and sets at 4pm (I leave work at 5pm). I drive in with plenty of light but leave in nearly full night time. Living in DST with zenith around 1pm would let me at least drive home at sunset. Would it really make winter life acceptable, though? Maybe, maybe not. I’m sure the temperature is a major factor as I can’t remember the last time summer sunset ended the day for me.

        Still, I get it for when you had to manually set clocks based on the sun, but we have time zones and automatic syncs now. With rigid time zones, everybody has some inaccuracy at some point to the zenith anyway. Even if you’re dead center for the winter solstice, the true zenith location slides East for the spring equinox, returns for the summer solstice (though will be 1pm with DST), and then slides west for the fall equinox. The variation is more extreme nearer the poles. Then you have extreme cases with places like China and India, with single time zones across the countries and 70-80 minutes of zenith variation across the majority of the population (excluding China’s western half).

    • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
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      21 days ago

      I like the idea of redenominating the currency instead. We issue a v2.0 of the dollar. No existing dollars are rendered invalid. You just start issuing new coins with 100x value. The new penny is worth one old dollar.

    • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
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      23 days ago

      Anyone tangentially studying anything scientific with real life measurements in the US is versed in metric. Imperial really is for the dum dums and their precious feel feels.

      • UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world
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        23 days ago

        I just wish i didnt have to own 2 sets of tools. Even if we officially swap, im still going to have to keep 2 sets because of all the legacy junk around.

        Really though, phillips heads screws bother me more than anything else. There literally designed, on purpose to strip.

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          23 days ago

          Fuck, I forgot about auto work.

          Also, I think hex heads are more prone in smaller applications. Phillips should’ve been the square head.

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            21 days ago

            Phillips was going to be the square head, but there pattent / licencing issues i think. Torx is my fav now, but i also understand that its expensive and complicated to manufacture, especially in the past.

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            21 days ago

            Phillips should’ve been the square head.

            Robertson.

            Canada uses Robertson screws in construction. You can put them on a screwdriver and screw straight up, and they are much harder to strip out.

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        22 days ago

        Yeah, you know, except for the entirety of engineering degree fields. Everything is still done to one thousandth of an inch.

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      23 days ago

      I’m in Australia and it still shits me to tears that I can’t mathematically communicate with Americans. We just changed one day and it was done.

      That said, the Australian mainland is running 5 different timezones right now. Some zones are only 30 minutes apart. We also have a little island just off the coast of Sydney where the DST shift is 30 minutes. The entire planet does an hour. We’ve introduced this edge case for the sake of 400 people and some stick insects.

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    22 days ago

    On the topic of daylight savings, I used to prefer that we stay on the daylight savings side of the time. But honestly at this point I am fine with staying on standard time if that means no more switching.

    Otherwise one thing lately that I wish was done and over with by now is physical junk mail. Literal paper showing up in my mailbox that I now have to dispose of. Something I don’t ask for and will never look at. And I can’t help but think that happens to millions in my country every single day all for an irrelevant number of people to even look at. I can’t imagine how many trees are lost each year for something that has zero usefulness.

  • cutemarshmallow@europe.pub
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    22 days ago

    Oof, where do I begin?

    • Fossil fuel companies
    • cruises
    • diesel cars
    • low-cost fast fashion retail companies
    • modern slavery
    • racism
    • misinformation
    • political scapegoats
    • two-party systems
    • billionaires
    • polyester
    • Artificial food colouring
    • non-medical drugs and smoking
    • alcohol
    • low-cost greasy fast-food chains
    • kids on social media

    I’m tired! 😩 We’ve normalised unhealthy, unsustainable, and elitist lifestyles way too much! There are ways to be successful, happy, stylish, and joyful without these things. Many countries are already committing themselves to such efforts, so I know I’m not asking for much. I understand freedom of choice, and I’m usually quite libertarian, but some things just bring temporary fun and no benefits at all. In fact, some harm those around us too.

    Renewable energy, electric cars, second-hand retail, artisanship, fair trade, multiculturalism, science-based education based on facts and credible sources, government transparency and accountability, a true democracy where the electoral candidates actually represent their party’s base and voters don’t feel hopeless, economic equality, socialism, natural fibres in fabrics, simple and natural food, therapy, mindfulness, healthy homemade packaged food, and kids staying off social media needs to be good again!

    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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      22 days ago

      missing one Universal healthcare or using part of the defense budget to fund/subsidized Healthcare for all in the US.

      easier to get proof citizen documents/things, like passport right now its a convoluted , lenghty process for first time, and Inactive users for things like passports.

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        22 days ago

        Yeah sorry, we already have free and universal healthcare so I didn’t think of it 😅 But you’re right! My mind boggles at how terrible the healthcare system is in the US. I feel awful for people with chronic conditions and vulnerable situations, especially. The fact that the most reliable option is not to be insured and hope that you won’t ever get seriously injured or sick is depressing. The people who oppose universal free healthcare and those who deny healthcare to the less fortunate are evil. I know it’s obvious, but Luigi Mangione (or whoever it was) did a good thing. I wish it were all of them, but at least he got you rid of one asshole.

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          funny thing is conservatives are ON ACA, but they dont want to expand it or use it all. they have propagandized by fox that its "obamacare’ so they cant make that distinction that it was dem majority that had the law. and why the gop have a difficult time of removing it.

          people with chronic disease are often disliked by insurance, because they know they would cost more, so they charge more for it. Also each company has thier convoluted payment systems.

  • thlibos@thelemmy.club
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    22 days ago

    Personally I am for staying on Daylight savings time permanently, rather than getting rid of it. But getting permanently off of it is preferably to the back and forth every year.

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    22 days ago

    I want to stay on daylight saving time year round. I agree, the fact that we keep changing the time twice a year is ridiculous. There’s no reason. Who is demanding we do this? We’re doing it solely because of tradition, like in the story “The Lottery” where they stone a random person to death every year for no reason, just because of tradition. Ironically, this is something I can see Trump getting rid of, it would be one of the very few things I’d support him on (along with abolishing pennies)

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      22 days ago

      I’ve been doing it for 45 years, still don’t understand why people care so much

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    22 days ago

    Here in Canada, parliament has been discussing universal basic income for years. Economists have proven it would save the government money. It would be a win-win. Do it already.

    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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      21 days ago

      Canada did a study trial of UBI. People who could physically work ended up getting jobs while on it.

      But, this is not the reality that sells in suburban Canada.

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        People are driven to work for fulfillment and nobody likes being poor. People will always try to make as much money as possible. The “welfare king/queen” is a rare mentality, most people are not content with being poor.

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      22 days ago

      I think they’re doing another trial right away, and one of them’s in BC where Doug Ford can’t get at it.

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    23 days ago

    Anti-veganism

    “But mah bacon!” Shut the fuck up, you just proved that you think having something you like makes the torture and killing of billions of animals a year acceptable. You’re fucked in the head and deserve to be forced to never eat any animal product ever again.

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      23 days ago

      I’m gonna challenge two parts of your post;

      1. Not participating in something does not make someone anti that thing. I don’t play or watch sports, I’m not anti sports. I don’t participate in or watch operas, I’m not anti opera. Etc. Saying “anti-veganism” implies vegans face the same kind of persecution as minorities do.
      2. It is not the responsibility of the consumer to fix supply chain issues. You can believe there is no way to “ethically” raise livestock for meat and that’s fine, but what happens at “meat factories” and slaughterhouses is not the responsibility of the buyer any more than you are responsible for the child labour that went into the t-shirt you’re wearing.

      Since you were so overly aggressive in your post, I’ll permit myself a tiny snoot of “whataboutism”; do you care the same amount about the clothes you wear? The electronic devices you use? The energy you consume? The non-animal products you consume?

      Every. Single. Thing. you as a modern person buy has supply chain issues somewhere, and taking such an aggressive stance on one thing but not the others would make someone a massive hypocrite.

      What I’m ultimately saying is this; everyone has their own line in the sand for what makes someone a morally good person. Or rather; what supply chain issues are “acceptable”. For you, that line is clearly the consumption of animal products. For others, it’s different. It may be more extreme than you, making you the same horrible monster in their eyes as meat eaters are in your eyes. Are they wrong? What makes your particular line the One True Line?

      Believe me, I understand the fire you feel about this issue because I feel the same way about other issues. I understand that for you, it’s the most obvious and easiest thing in the world to be a vegan. This is not true for everyone, and it does not make them “fucked in the head”.

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      23 days ago

      Here in south western Germany they will literally interrogate you if you ask for a vegetarian dish. It’s insane. The dish is always Käsespätzle, by the way.

      When restaurants were posting their Valentine’s menus online not a single one offered a vegetarian menu.

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        21 days ago

        south western Germany they will literally interrogate you if you ask for a vegetarian dish

        because Hitler was a vegetarian? Or because they want to push the pig knuckles?