• craftrabbit@lemmy.zip
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      13 days ago

      Idk. Is this even real? Is this a real thing that is happening? I guess it’s a meme insofar as it’s a very ridiculous, far-fetched, outrageous thing for the leader of a country to do. And yet, I genuinely don’t know whether to think that it’s true…

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          13 days ago

          Let this empire burn and 50+ flags fly freely. May these profligates see their wealth evaporate and never be returned for contempt of their weakness, corruption, and stupidity should ensure their inevitable and violent deaths.

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          I think both are true. When the media is controlled and the populace is spoon fed bullshit for a long enough period of time, people who lack critical thinking skills eat it up and vote against their own self interests. People are also very unlikely to take responsibility for their own actions and find it much easier to blame others for their own shortcomings, which leads to tribalism and racism among other things. The other major issue is the giant wealth disparity causing a huge imbalance of power and influence. Couple that with the inability to have politicians not beholden to that power and money (citizens united) and you have the perfect storm of bullshit and corruption.

          I really think the quote from Agent K in MIB really sums it up.

          A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals, and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you’ll know tomorrow.

          Don’t get me wrong, there are people who are just trolls and assholes who are beyond saving. But I continue to believe they are exceptions rather than the norm.

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    This is so outrageous that I find it hard to believe. The cost of the entire US Forest Service must be minuscule, especially if you compare it to cost of waging unnecessary, illegal, and unethical wars all over the planet.

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      This is also the second time that he’s tried this. The first time was during his previous term, and though he was forced to reopen everything by the courts, the fact that he sold some of the federal land to (I think) oil companies was never acted upon, despite it being illegal to sell public land to corporate interests.

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      13 days ago

      It’s probably so they can destroy climate change research and distract people yet again from other atrocities. Oh and drill or whatever they want to do with the land.

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      I’m sure this isn’t really about saving money. It’s about destroying the US Forest Service. That’s the direct goal.

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        13 days ago

        In a few years: “These unkempt forests are a real eyesore, what if we sell the land to private entities”

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          Within three years: “These unkempt forests…"

          They’re going to try and steal as much of it as possible while Taco is in charge

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      Yeah this is more of a re-org than an elimination. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/03/climate/forest-service-research-stations.html

      Still seems like it might cause problems but it’s not the catastrophic change some people are making it out to be. And the Forest Service isn’t just a bunch of tree-hugging conservationists their mission is basically the sustainable exploitation of US forests. So for that reason they are very important to industry.

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        It’s “just a reorg” where they shut down all the research labs (which can’t be moved because they’re located by the forests they study) and hand leadership to pro-logging lobbyists.

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      It’s actually $9B a year…which I wouldn’t call “minuscule” like PBS was.

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        The point is Trump will never do anything that isn’t for deeply personal reasons. And he would never do anything solely to save money on the budget, he doesn’t care about that at all. So either he does this out of pure spite, because it is a “liberal” thing, or more likely he does it because he has been bribed by whatever industries are eager to turn all that forest into shortsighted profit.

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          Fine. But calling 9 billion dollars, an amount of money most people can’t even fathom, “minuscule” is pretty stupid.

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            In the federal budget context, that is literally a few dollars. It is super disingenuous to compare it to the budget of a single person.

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        Wildland Fire Management and the Wildfire Adjustment

        The largest share of FS appropriations goes to the WFM account. The WFM appropriation funds preparedness, or fire prevention, detection, equipment and training; wildfire suppression; and salaries and expenses.

        Overall, in FY2025, 51% of the agency’s discretionary appropriations, including supplemental appropriations, were provided for these two accounts (26% WFM, 25% wildfire adjustment).

        https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF13101

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    President Javier Melei is a self described ancap and the inspiration behind DOGE. Wouldn’t surprise me if this is another attempt at shaping things by another libertarian group.

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    Even if Trump hadn’t raped children, being the exact opposite of Teddy Roosevelt would make him among the worst American presidents.

    The child-raping thing makes it considerably worse btw.

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      and because the base also supports it, because they have rapists in thier ranks, where its only place acceptable.

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      They think smart and good people are just playing team sports against them, so they play the other team and try to win.

      They’re dumb enough not to think any of it through.

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      When your interest are fundamentally opposite to facts, science is your enemy. Destroy it, and there is no rational argument to oppose any of your action.

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    The whole world is panicking as one lunatic is destroying everything. And there is nobody who can take him by the ear and pull him out on the street …

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          I don’t know that the masses can go toe to toe with the US police forces, ICE, and all the Rittenhouse wannabes that come out lookin’ to kill and be acquitted. Maybe, but it’ll be a bloodbath because the violence of ICE has normalized that even unarmed protestors simply protesting (or not) are executable. There’s also the issue that even if you’re not killed, everyone’s a “terrorist” and any act of resistance can be “terrorism”. It would be a lot of John Browns until someone already in power withdrew from federal compliance and used their authority to protect their citizens and city/state. Even then, I don’t think local police forces would comply. Their power is now tied to maintaining conservative power, they’d go rogue before they broke with MAGA. I’d also point out that MAGAts use civil disruption as cover to loot, burn, and cover their own violence both for personal gain and to make the cause look bad.

          Until we are united and coordinated enough to make sure we’re not getting slaughtered and played, there’s always malicious compliance, weaponized inefficiency, and some others.

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      The Confederates Republicans have spent decades laying the groundwork for this. Every GOP member “elected” or appointed to any role has helped pave the way.

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        jumpstarted by reagan, and helped along by gingrich and mitch mcconnel, newt was significant in founding the “never work with the dems on anything, until they cave you demands” in the 90s.

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    Not so fun fact: Forest fires over last 6 years have made global forests net carbon emitters instead of sinks.

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      It makes my fucking blood boil and I don’t even live in the USA. For all the problems your country has, the parks, the forestry, the public land and wild spaces are a truly outstanding and precious asset. Something to be defending tooth and nail. So of course Trump would want to destroy all of that, because if he didn’t, you could still make the case that he hadn’t really irredeemably and permanently ruined every single aspect of the country.

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        As someone who has a degree in wildlife conservation and has always been my dream to work for the Forest Services and have a career protecting what is left of this nation’s natural wonder.

        And they are doing this explicitly for the purposes of letting the logging and oil industry rape these natural wonders for fucking profit. For fake, imaginary fucking social value of which they already possess an obscene amount.

        I cannot describe my anger and loathing.

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          Imagine what a tiny increment in their profit margins this will produce, what an infinitesimal impact it will have on the wealth, and standard of living of a handful of individuals. And for this they will fuck up an irreplaceable natural heritage which is there for the whole world. It shows that the value such people place on our coexistence with the natural world is zero or less. Maybe they hate it because they don’t understand why normal people love it. Maybe it’s just that they will feel richer, in a relative sense, when they have made us all poorer.

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            Trust, I am well aware. Part of a conservation degree is economics, because conservation directly has to argue in economic terms in order to persuade governments and stakeholders for support of passing legislation.

            Unfortunately, the powers that be seem to have stopped caring entirely, ceasing to even performatively care. They want it all and they don’t wish to negotiate anymore.