I clarify:

Let’s say scientists can’t come up with solutions to global problems, AI gets out of control and turns almost everyone into paperclips during wars, and in the 2040s or 2050s, the surviving people (about a few tens of millions around the world or even less) gradually return to the level of intelligence of their distant ancestors?

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    17 hours ago

    As we can see from what is happening in the world today my answer is nothing. We will do nothing and just accept our fate.

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    21 hours ago

    mad max world is probably likely, or a 4400 type of civilization, where the rich are in thier bougie clean enclaves, while everyone is the devastate mad max style living.

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    I can cook over a wood fire and teach others the same. I can do carpentry with un-powered hand tools to an acceptable level. I am a pretty decent archer. Hopefully I could find a group of survivors who valued those skills over my delicious flesh.

  • gwl [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 days ago

    I take unbridge with the line

    Level of intelligence of their distant ancestors

    All evidence so far points to humans being at the same intelligence levels as they are now since basically when we first became Anatomically Modern Humans.

    We were not less intelligent, we just had less information and less data.

    You can be a Supergenius the likes of which only seen in comic books, but if you don’t have the right data and information, you’re no different to anyone else.

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      As you have well noticed, I did not take into account that human evolution did not advance much intellectually and computationally, it was rather a matter of the variety of information that sharpened the human mind, to put it simply. Unfortunately, it is difficult to take all this into account.

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        22 hours ago

        We didn’t advance in intelligence, at all, as that’s “the capacity for, with information and tools, find a way to put them to use”. And the human mind is as sharp as it’s always been.

        We had less information, and because of that no knowledge of how to make better tools, but if you gave someone from 5000 years ago the information and tools, they would be intelligent enough to figure out how to use them without instruction.

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          There are also issues of societal specialization leading to the ability of individuals to specialize in gaining knowledge, instead of 100% of the population working 99% of the time on survival.

          But my brain and Og the Caveman are basically the same.

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      Not a bad idea, but it will be better in mountainous areas, it is safer there, since predators will not climb there, because there is no food for them there.

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        22 hours ago

        You’re assuming I’m America, UK don’t have any predators larger than a cat left, all went extinct.

        It’s part of why we’ve got a Deer problem and have to manually cull them every now and again

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    So many depressed people on Lemmy, everyone just going with dying huh?

    I mean I am excited to finally flex my creativity, see if there is anything I can figure out how to do with all our crap and the new world. Maybe some kind of silly The Grinch level home full of housing code violations and crazy contraptions made of garbage while I cross breed pea/beans.

    It would be cool if when I die people thought of me as some weird hermit alchemist and as they wander through my house finding tools of the old world uncover a lost truth and then some YA type shit happens as a result.

    Dying is easy, we all do it eventually, the question is, if you do anything before you get to the same finish line.

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    I don’t see us regressing before 1820. Will just be back to your horses, carriages, and living off the land.

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    All the people saying, “I’d just die,” remember that neolithic peoples (hell, all people up to the present day) rely on social bonds. You don’t have to possess every survival skill, just enough skills to be an asset to a community of mutual-support.

    I already educate children, and regardless of society’s form I’d probably continue to do so because it’s vitally important. Also as someone well-practiced in a variety of handicrafts, I suspect I’d find my niche quite comfortably. Making useful things from limited resources, teaching others how to make such things, and teaching children the knowledge I’ve accumulated throughout my life, I think there’s bound to be a place in a stone age community for someone like me.

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    For all y’all on here saying you have no survival skills: computers and electronics aren’t going to just go away, and the fact that you’re having this conversation on a federated internet forum means you know at least a little bit more about computers than your average bear. For any scenario where extinction is a possibility, being able to operate a computer and use it to communicate with other humans would be a huge asset, and the more of those people we have around the easier it’ll be to keep it going when things go to hell. Don’t sell yourself short.

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    I think that your question might be flawed on the front of intelligence. Assuming that the AI doesn’t specifically target the brightest people in the world, I don’t think that the overall intelligence of the world would go down. Besides, I don’t believe that it would be very easy to hit humanity as a whole to cause us to regress completely down there. For one, it’s likely incredibly difficult to have all the accumulated knowledge of over 10 millennia to get erased. It’s likely that the knowledge of metallurgy, chemistry, and medicine will still be floating around, be it written down, stored on a device, or a specialist having memorized it. Sure, some knowledge would absolutely get lost. But specifically the Neolithic era is where we see the beginnings of society. Agriculture was a major achievement for humanity, as it enabled us to specialize, and establish permanent settlements. There’s also another factor to consider: the ruins of our previous height will still be there. People would absolutely go and scavenge the ruins for things that we as a whole would have lost. Yes, people would absolutely die, but I don’t believe that humanity as a whole would be screwed.