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He could have just looked at the schematic before he sent it off to be made…
Yeah I’m wondering what the purpose was for actually having this thing fabricated. What point was he trying to make.
Art, of a sort.
A vibe-designed pcb?
It looks like he was trying to prove that using AI to make things is bad.
I get that, but you could have come to the same conclusion just by looking at the schematics. You don’t need to actually have the thing fabricated to make that point.
I guess the idea was to get more social media attention this way.
Then the point they were trying to make wouldn’t be as strong.
I get it as well, but some people need something a bit more solid to realise just how stupid something is. I haven’t looked at circuits since high school, but if I see something that just straight up doesn’t work, that’s undeniable.
He could have received the same board by having an intern or high school electronics student design it with no oversight.
He also could have sent the result to another AI with the prompt “point out all the errors in this design and tell me if we should have it printed”.
This was just a dumb “hur hur, AI bad stunt”
An unsupervised high school electronics student could easily design a PCB to power a LED via USB power. It’s an extremely easy task to accomplish, which is why it was picked.
Even someone with no training would put the USB port in a better position.
That’s not as fun
He’s doing it for shits and giggles. He wants it for display.
“I wanted to do it entirely with AI (e.g. blind)”
it’s a demonstration of the amazing capabilities of AI 😂
Push AI button, don’t check, complain about AI, problem is human
I guess that is what happens when you don’t have a billion of open-source CAD projects to train your model on.
I hope the post is satire, because it’s funny as hell.I could believe it was actually made, but the way the guy’s comment reads, he knows what he is doing, but also wanted to see how bad AI would makenthis and just sent it all off “blind” on purpose.
I tried using ai to create an openscad simple object. It’s basic and open source with lots of available examples.
I got crap back. After 4 tries I ended up just hacking it’s code to make it work.
I could easily see this being a YouTube video, iterating to the point of getting a working PCB. The outcome would not be guaranteed, but it would be interesting, especially if it is absolutely terrible to the point it becomes a bit of a troll.
Sounds like a Michael Reeves video!
I was thinking the same!
Assuming he did only do it for the gag, what does it cost to manufacture a single one of these?
wouldn’t it be D1?
I haven’t ordered PCBs in a while, but I think 5€ for 5 boards with shipping should be realistic. Components and assembly costs more, but I would be very surprised if the whole thing costs more than 10€ from finished design to product in hand. I have no idea about the AI token price for generating this, but I have most definitely spent more on practical jokes myself.
Wow, didn’t know creating PCBs would be so cheap.
There are indeed much dumber projects you could waste money on. But rarely they would be so cheap.
It depends on how many layers there are.
Did the fab house call up like “uh… are you sure?”
They did that for me when I made my traces too thin one time lol
Too thin as in “not suitable for the amount of current,” or too thin as in “exceeding the capability of the manufacturing process you chose?” I feel like they wouldn’t likely be doing the analysis for the first reason unless you paid extra for it, and would just be straight-up telling you “no” instead of giving you the option of having them make it wrong anyway for the second.
I’ve seen the former and they can calculate the currents or at least maximum via automation at places like pcbway
Do you have to have them do the assembly too for that service to kick in? I’ve ordered bare PCBs a couple of times and wasn’t aware of it.
Not sure. I haven’t designed them but follow a few projects closely enough to have seen the designer saying the plant called about questionable traces. I’ve only ever bought bare PCBs.
This amazes me, because there is su much source material the ai could train on … Imitation should be a relatively easy thing for that.
He used Claude which is an LLM, to build a. Circuit board which has not much to do with language. If course it wasn’t trained om PCBs.
Let’s assume they used something like kicad then clause could have learned from the available source files. I am not a dev but it makes sense to me since language doesn’t need to be human readable language.
Wouldn’t this be like asking an LLM to generate and svg image? Yes, technically it’s xml, but will it make sense when it’s rendered? Only if the model was specifically trained to understand svg. I never heard of kicad before, i assume it’s even more niche.
I’m particularly amazed by the PCB company.
Did they not read the schematics and ask “bro are you fucking 100% sure”?
Or is it all fully automated?
Astounding in either case.
Absolutely sure it’s automated.
This reminds me of the people who trained neural networks on stuff before ChatGPT and uploaded YouTube videos with titles like, “I FORCED an AI to read ALL of twilight, and THIS is what it wrote!” and then they laugh at the garbage that comes out of the model. Like… yeah, the model is not good at this task that it was not designed to do. Some of the text is funny, but in the same way people don’t really emotionally respond to AI art because there was no human intent behind it, I don’t respond to AI “humour”. It’s using a tool wrong and then laughing that the outcome is bad.
There’s satirical comedy to be had here, but it needs to be grounded in what actual people are doing. Personally I haven’t seen anyone seriously expect a language model to be able to assemble a functioning PCB, so I can’t enjoy this as satire either.
Or could it be genuine curiosity, just seeing what happens? Always possible but such a predictable outcome doesn’t tickle my curiosity either.
So, there are all the reasons I didn’t find this interesting. Why did I reply it all? I dunno man.
This reminds me of the people who trained neural networks on stuff before ChatGPT
I did this with Buzzfeed clickbait headlines, not using neural networks, just simple Markov chains.
Yeah sounds about right! And that’s true a lot of it was with Markov models. I think some was NNs though.
I can see at least one innovation there. Diodes make current go one direction. D1 ensures current goes neither direction.
you know what else achieves the same thing… empty space…
Am I missing it? Or is there not even an LED to light up?
There is, D1 in lower right is an SMD LED
Got it. Thought it was just a regular diode.
I mean…it is.
technically all LEDs are “regular diodes”.
Does D1 have only one leg attached? I don’t see any via hole that connects to the back side of the board.
Yeah, as does the capacitors above it, it’s rather funny
I would love to see the looks on the faces of the Chinese laborers making this stupid thing.
Those kids must have been so upset.
It is a pastiche of [thing], more than an actual [thing] itself.
This is exactly what “AI” does, this is precisely what it’s for
Of course they’re a Project Manager.
Product manager, that’s worse
Just wait another month bro I promise it will get better bro (every month for the past 4 years)
This HAS to be ragebait.
It’s certainly engagement bait. I don’t know what kind of engagement they’re expecting. They might be expecting rage. They might be expecting intrigue.
I dont know if it’s more about than any other meme. It’s just picture of thing that doesn’t work with text. Feels like a normal meme. If it’s ragebait because it features AI, that feels overly broad.
