Whether it’s economic, cultural, political, religious, ideological, whatever, what are some ideas that you believe in? I think friendly (very important!!) discussion of these could be good as to understand the views of others. Pluralism and the acceptance of many beliefs is generally a good thing.
As long as you don’t believe in implausible conspiracy theories or say anything that is listed on the rules of most Lemmy communities and instances (in which case, don’t say it), I think the opinions of others should be respected!
Please don’t devolve this into a hot political argument, holy war, or similar. It ends badly for world powers (all of them), and it will end badly here with no winning sides. Friendly debate is ok as long as you don’t go nuts, make sure you give good supporting arguments with evidence!
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Most people would rather cooperate & help than compete & hoard
Kindness, curiosity and a firm belief in treating everyone like they are actual real human beings who can do what they want. It’s important to ask people why they do things.
Anarchist with a small ‘a’ (that is, never going to be vegan, and I’ve had a managerial position [no, I don’t think anarchism means no leaders but I do feel gross about taking part in the paramilitary office structure, and how much I loved the money and status and power]).
The controversial one is ’if you have disposable income, your day-to-day problems won’t be real problems’. Most problems are not real problems because money addresses them. Existential, emotional difficulty? Great! You can afford to go to therapy whilst still not suffering any real day to day problems because you have the money 👍.
I’m also fed up of weird consumerist attitudes around ‘if I dont get to do everything I want, I’m struggling for money 🥺 I’m poor’
That needs to go fucking yesterday.
spoken like someone who has never dealt with problems money can’t solve.
like your loved ones suffering
Woah! I read tuhat part of their message as sarcasm and was surprised by the sudden change of to be… But they really meant it literally!
Therapy won’t help instanteneously. It also will alleviate the suffering, but not remove it.
it also won’t help chronic diseases or disabilities.
Again, those are real problems that money can’t solve
No, no, that would come under “real problem” because money can’t solve it.
Heavily depends on the subject. Of course trying my best to be reasonable person, then many opinions can change over time due to new information or perspectives.
In general, live and let live(with controversial exclusions), just try not to make the surrounding area worse than i found it. Sometimes it’s even possible to leave it slightly better than i found it. Similar applies to people, while i might be an asshole(ASD, social difficulties) with a fucked up sense of humor, i do try to be helpful and try not to be purposefully malicious(abuse/take advantage/hurt) towards other people.
Some of the more controversial ones: Supporting transhumanism, leaning towards cybernetic augmentation of the human body, but as trans people fall under the same umbrella they get my support as well.
Regarding food: food is just fuel. There’s minimal emotional component to it. Daily eating is just another chore to maintain this biological meatsuit. Efficiency to get in a somewhat a balanced meal is the primary concern.
I’m non-spiritual, though I do believe something similar to dualism* in an abstract sense (I see it more as 4*, along with different levels of granularity depending on the type of interaction). Though in reality also am about as disconnected as one can be (so I’m not even on the chart).
Transhumanism: leave my brain intact (remember: no copies) and I’d roll the dice if I could do so without techbros. Ideally I’d have more microbiomes/(types of)living cells to keep me alive and stable+clean (and synthesis maybe) rather than the tech-only life-support model often seen in sci-fi.
Somewhat disagree on food, I think cooking is a useful skill and can see utility in art and celebration. Though yeah that’s less-and-less common for me, I’ve eaten a lot of not-great frozen burritos. Even if I didn’t need to eat food, I think it’d be nice to have an excuse to eat decent food at least sometimes.
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* I’m not actually sure if dualism/non-dualism is the best term here (I’m talking about organisms only, not mind/body or rocks etc). The 4 I mention is roughly: self, other, friend, unknown. Something like a jellyfish would be the unknown. Though things can move in that chart, and will obviously be different for survival vs society.
I actually do mostly agree on both points.
While i do support transhumanism. i can see the negative side of any implants coming from Elon(or any current techbros), security, compatibility, long term support, minimal medical testing.
The hope is that eventually replacement body parts coming from medical field with rigours safety features and testing become widely available. That will likely take decades or even lifetimes and i might not even see becoming a half mechanical cyborg during my lifetime.Cooking is most definitely useful skill, no argument about that and it does play into efficiency by being cheaper (per meal basis) and it is easier to cook up a balanced meal from raw ingredients instead of trying to find a good ready made meal from the store. In addition the health aspect as well, a somewhat balanced meal cooked out of raw ingredients is likely going to be better for the body than ready made meals, obviously cooking methods do matter and in moderation.
The art and celebration part is too subjective and flys over my head completely. It’s just food, do we celebrate plugging in a charger on our phones? is refueling the car an art form? No, neither is day to day eating, it’s just refueling the body.
Though obviously there are people who do consider food an art and that’s why this is a slightly controversial opinion.
The art and celebration part is too subjective and flys over my head completely. It’s just food
It seems very human to me for a communal meal to lift morale, even though that’s largely a thing of the past (especially now with money and captive markets). Maybe it’s celebrating an accomplishment, maybe it’s about meeting new people or having some fun, maybe it’s just spending time with loved ones.
It doesn’t even need to be an expensive or large gathering. Nice things are nice, I don’t think this one needs a 1-hour video essay. Though yes I do see this as a maybe-weekly maybe-monthly maybe-yearly sort of thing depending on scale and circumstance, not every day.
It does make more sense when there is reason to celebrate, so maybe not much would change considering the bar (in USA) is extremely low right now.
Sidenote: I don’t really drink or dance, so that might be an influence for my opinion here compared to modern parties
I don’t feel like arguing so, today, I’m just here to see who worships/follows Khorne (imperialists, “might makes right/fuck you I got mine/survival of the fittest!!!” freaks), Slaanesh (druggie hedonists, sex addicts and “nothing matters but my dakis and miniatures” folks), Nurgle (lethargic nihilists who spread the “rot” and push others into the same hole) or Tzeentch (dishonest, conniving people who think they’re smarter than God, and for those reasons they probably won’t admit to it here, lol).
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People’s religiom does not matter, only the political emanations from it (hello catholic church or Pie X brotherhood).
Capitalism was better than feudalism, does not mean it is a gool thing for humanity. Personnaly, I lean in between anarchism as an ultimate goal and communism to fight big companies before anarchism.
yes my fellow lemmians what are your personal beliefs and opinions
One value that really shapes most of my other beliefs is that my moral system should be internally consistent. It’s caused me to try to consciously rethink all of my beliefs and values, and discard or refine any that are inconsistent and add others that were missing.
I don’t really think I’ll ever get to a point of all my beliefs being conscious ones and all my values being objective, that’s not really my aim (or even realistic imo), but it’s changed a lot about how I act and view right and wrong and it’s a process I don’t plan on ever stopping.
One of my biggest beliefs came from Star Trek : IDIC, or Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. The idea that one homogeneous whole is not only undesirable but simply wrong has shaped damn near everything about me. It may seem sad, but the science fiction I consumed as a kid shaped the person I am today
I didn’t think that’s sad.
If art doesn’t have a message and is ‘untitled’ in a museum. Its not art, its practice. It does not belong there.
if it bothers you, and you have to consider it for more than 10 seconds, it’s provoking and it’s art. sorry but you don’t get to be arts gatekeeper
But you can gate keep it with your arbitrary 10 second rule?
it’s not my rule, it is a standard for understanding
just look it up yourself
I’m a pragmatist.
It means everyone hates me because I don’t agree with their ideology and principles. I also acknowledge change and limits, which also pisses people off. I don’t argue from or compare reality to utopian ideals, because that’s inherently hypocritical, as I am not ideal.
I think principles are cool, but stupid when they are self-defeating, and a lot of ideologies hold to their principles to the point of stupidity and self-defeat.
I think idealism comes from insecurity and a lack of control over oneself and a projection of that lack of control onto others.
I also think pop psychology is demonic and destroying our social fabric, in the USA, at least.
I also think pop psychology is demonic and destroying our social fabric, in the USA, at least.
Your take strikes me as a tad nihilistic, aside from this.^ Example?
your comment is an example.
the incessant need to classify everything into an extremist viewpoint. very few people are sociopaths, narcissits, gaslighting, etc. but people love to use pop psychology to ‘diagnose’ anyone they disagree with as mentally ill.
My brother in Christ, Nihilism is not pop psychology.
No, the pop psychology is your need to define someone else as a nihilist based on a single internet comment.
Curious about what kind of limits you acknowledge that makes people angry.
money, time, energy, resources, biology etc.
lots of idealists here think such things don’t exist and that we can magically make them infinite based on willpower alone because after all they are just ‘social constructs’.
For my own beliefs, I think that family relationships are important. My siblings will always be my siblings, and even after arguments, we have to come together in the end. We are stronger together!
Of course, I understand some people have family who aren’t very nice. Simply being family shouldn’t be an excuse to be mean I think. I’m very lucky to have mine, they push me to work hard and help me achieve my goals!
I also believe that people of all backgrounds, cultures, etc. should have equal rights, no one group of people should have more than the other. Unfortunately, this is not the case in most places in the world. Women are still underrepresented in many fields of work, racism is still a large problem in most parts of the world, the rich get away with crimes while the less fortunate are punished hard, etc., and we should work to achieve equality for all!
I value and believe in honor, which feels countercultural these days.
I value the story. If something good happens to me, bad happens to me, as long as it’s a good story that’s ok.
You know how dog people say there’s no bad dogs, only bad owners? Same thing with kids. It’s way more nuanced than that. It’s true up to a certain point. After having a giant boom of babies in my life recently, nothing has changed my thinking more than watching a blank slate of a human being be morphed into whatever the parents molded that child into. Sometimes it’s rough.
While I agree with you, I’d also encourage you to stay tuned to those children. It seems to me that certain traits come through on children regardless of parenting, as if the child was just wired for that certain personality quirk. Also, children sometimes become pretty self aware in their teens (certainly not always), and those teens tend to reverse the negative things their parents put on them. Just my experience so far.
The first thing I remember learning in philosophy 101 is the principle of charity, which has been eternally useful during discussion:
- Assume the other person has something worth saying
- Questions of meaning come before questions of truth
“Paying it forward” is fundamentally the most important weapon we have against the oligarchy, and simply refusing to participate in the endless cycle of new technology.
A long time ago, I kind of stumbled into a habit of “paying my hardware forward”. It started because it was simply a pain in the ass to try to sell something on ebay because your first ten offers are scam artists.
So when I upgraded a drawing tablet that I was using, I had a friend of a friend that was looking to try digital drawing and said “Here you go. The only thing I ask is that when you upgrade, or when you’re done with it, give it forward to someone else who could make use of it.”
Later, the same thing happened again with a camera stabilizer. I had bought one that it turned out was too lightweight for my DSLR. So I had to buy a heavier weight one. Meanwhile, a friend’s son was a budding filmmaker just using his cell phone to make stupid movies with his friends and I said “Hey…he’ll like this. The only thing I ask is when HE upgrades, or whatever, he passes it forward to another person”
Even something as simple as a dog ramp I bought for my aging dog. After he passed, it hung around in my shed until a friend of mine’s dog needed an operation and couldn’t do stairs. When her dog recovered she asked if I wanted it back and I said, no…just pass it forward.
I’ve done it with spare monitors. Old laptops that someone has needed for school, etc…
So what started as me just being too impatient to deal with ebay became something that literally makes me feel good knowing that I’m helping someone out, or even better, supporting another person’s artistic passion.
I really admire your habit of paying it forward. It reminded me of a belief I hold: instead of paying for everything, you can try to create a kind of exchange circle with the people around you.
Person A does something for Person B, Person B helps Person C, and eventually it all finds its way back to Person A. Everyone benefits without directly paying for each individual service, it fosters a sense of community and mutual support and there’s an added bonus: no one pays taxes.
For example, when I help someone move, I simply tell them, “Just do something similar for someone else, and one day it will come back to me.” Maybe that means someone helps change the tires on my car—or something entirely different.
Exactly. I think this is what we’ve fundamentally lost in our communities. People helping neighbours.
We’re all taught to distrust one another and to be self-sufficient, but that’s never how our society evolved in the first place. Cities evolved because cooperation was needed. Division of labour, etc…
I’m lucky that I live in a small city that still mostly has some of that going on. But it’s getting more rare every year. Elderly lady that lived across the alley from me had too small a backyard for her usual garden, so I said she was free to use mine because I wasn’t needing the space for anything. In return, I got to know my neighbour, and I got veggies come harvest time. She unfortunately passed away two years ago, and the young family that bought the house…haven’t even met them yet; they ignore eye contact whenever we’re both outside.
Maybe I’m just weird because I grew up in the country. We had a small acreage within a cluster of small acreages. And we all knew each other. The family down the way was a mechanic looking at our vehicles for us. When hay baling needed to be done, we would all pitch in and help. My dad was a construction worker, so he’d go help the neighbours build stuff. It’s just how it was for us.
