I’m in recovery and ever commercial is “the bold refreshing taste of uncle berry lemon twist vodka. Having a bad day? Drink this. You know you want to. Drink it Michael! please drink responably
Every ad portrays drinking as a party, and your in a pool throwing a beach ball with your friends, and your ex Chrissy finally admits she was wrong. It’s an unrealistically positive. If you drink Tito’s your father in law will finally grow close to you. It’s not Christmas without even Williams egg nog!
There is no safe amount of alcohol to drink. It is like cigarettes, entirely bad for you.
I’m not saying don’t sell it but why is every add for booze being blasted every. Especially to me because the algorithm knows I’m an alcoholic.
How is that legal?
Please drink responsibly? You’re aiming your ads at alcoholics primarily.
It’s like advertising morphine on skid row. You know what you’re doing.
Edit: for the people saying I’m America centric. I have a Texas education.what the hell is the US? Nothing is beyond our boarders. We are the only land mass. Ill add a picture in the comments.
For the people who happily explained what it’s like in thier country. Makes me feel less crazy for pointing out the problem!
Because we live in a society that hates women as much as it hates cancer
There is no safe amount of alcohol to drink. It is like cigarettes, entirely bad for you.
Not a great analogy. You’ve just decided the cons of drinking outweigh the pros.
There is no safe amount of alcohol.
For example: you just decided the cons of hitting your head with a rock outweighs the pros.
There is no safe amount of hitting yourself in the face with a rock.
You could argue “what about the red wine studies!” Those benefits are debatable at best with a single glass of red wine.
Either way it’s irrelevant because if I meant wine I would’ve said wine.
More importantly I don’t see a lot of wine commercial. The current level of wine advertising is fine with me.
I don’t even see ads for drinking online, that’s how banned they are in my country.
Srsly. Bring back cigarette ads
In Russia, alcohol ads are banned. So, beer ads take all the air, rolling their usual, and adding a small fast “nonalcoholic” at the end for their obscure nonalcolohic version no one cares about.
So, effectively, advertising your beer is legal as long as you have a nonalcoholic version.
Damn They manage to weasel around the law anyway.
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Bit of a shot in the dark, but seems like cigarette companies have lied in front of congress / courts saying cigarettes are healthy / not bad for you and have been caught red handed in their lies.
Big alcohol hasn’t ever done anything that egregious. Everyone knows its not exactly healthy to drink, and Big Alcohol doesn’t seem to have ever argued that. I know there’s the occasional “a glass of red wine is good for your heart” stuff, but they’re also not making any attempt to deny a gallon of wine per day will probably cause cirrhosis, ya know?
Just adding. The liquor industry has been pushing the ‘drink responsibly’ line for decades. Back in the day they tried to get an AA member to sign on as a spokesperson but AA asked the member not to do it and they agreed.
Alcohol has also just been more prevalent in human cultures dating back to prehistory. Some of the earliest evidence we have of permanent human settlements were breweries, theorized to have been built by people who still lived semi-nomadic hunter-gatherer lifestyles. That would mean that humans first started making permanent settlements and doing large-scale agriculture only to produce alcohol, and still mainly relied on hunting and gathering for their caloric needs. Other drugs / intoxicants have been used by humans for at least as long, but none have been so central to the development of civilization and culture than alcohol.
Yeah, I could never fly an economy flight without a drink or three to lighten the spirits.
… drink or three…
… lighten the spirits.
I see what you did there.
Just FYI, the 1 glass a day study didn’t exclude ex alcoholics, so they polluted the zero-glass-a-day group with bad health making the 1-glass-a-day look healthier in comparison.
The study has been redone and it shows that the less alcohol you consume the better it is, no exceptions.
Yeah, in terms of individual health, I have no doubt that avoiding alcohol all together the best bet.
Personally, I subscribe to a flavor of “social lubricant” take on alcohol. That is, being a human and managing all the required social interactions and minor slights, stressors, stigmas, etc is a lot. And alcohol works to turn off some of the parts of the brain most active in social situations. That is to say that alcohol (and/or other mood altering drugs) are bad for the individual, but good for society.
Do need to caveat that take with: there’s a left and a right to what’s acceptable levels of intoxication. I don’t think the world would be better with everyone getting outright shit faced every night, and even a glass every night might be excessive; its easy to fall prey to addiction and that’s undesirable. But also, I don’t think we’d be better off without alcohol all together. I think a couple glasses per week - and not drinking those glasses alone - makes for a healthy enough middle ground.
alcohol … bad for the individual, but good for society
Alcohol is ranked as society’s most harmful drug, because no, for way too many people it’s not just a few drinks per week in a healthy social setting. It’s also one of the few drugs where you can literally die during withdrawal.
Yup, and I think that’s a symptom of how isolating modern society is (as opposed to the disease society suffers from).
I def do not advocate for drinking alone in any quantity, but I would also never advocate to remove alcohol from society. It feels reasonable to conclude that since every society that’s ever had success at some level has had some form of mind altering substance (usually alcohol) that was consumed recreationally and regularly.
You can’t remove it, its too easy to make. It doesnt need to be advertised though.
Well I mean, why stop at just alcohol ads? I say we ban them all.
^^ Only kinda joking there. I do hate ads, esp those that interrupt whatever content I was involved in (TV, streaming, pop-up). Ones that just kinda set on the side are mostly okay (billboards, banner ads, those pamphlets at hotels, etc).
There’s a good reason we’ve had alcohol for almost as long as we’ve had civilization, and I think you hit on some key points of it here. It’s a social lubricant, many important meetings and decisions of history might not have happened without a little drink to loosen some tongues.
That’s not to say that it’s good for you, but alcohol has been present alongside human evolution in sort of the same way that dogs have. We go waaayyyyyy way back together.
I do think that on a phone or computer one ought to be able to opt out, like how shops who spam me in email say “do you want to opt out of mother’s day emails?” Because they don’t want to send them if your mom or kid just died, right?
But I don’t know how you would do that without sort of registering as an alcoholic, which seems problematic.
I’m literally subscribed to an industry newsletter and research cocktails for the community here, and haven’t seen very many ads for any sort of alcohol though? Are you really seeing them all the time?
It’s honestly hard to say. Obviously it’s not ever single commercial I see. I feel like an abnormal amount. I see more drinking adds than gambling ads.
But I can’t be positive because I notice every drinking ad because I’m struggling. I probably wouldn’t notice a Nerf commercial in the mix.
If you wanted to make it possible to opt out of certain categories of ads (like alcohol) on personal devices/computers, without having to tell the advertiser that you’re an alcoholic or similar, perhaps a law could mandate that ads made for those products or brands associated with them be tagged as such in some way, and that software that displays ads should have a setting to not display ones that arrive with that tag? That way the setting only needs to be client side. I mean ideally you’d just not have ads at all but that’s a much bigger and more difficult fight than just alcohol obviously.
who tf is we?
It’s the Royal we
They have better
briberslobbyistsall advertisement is bad. best to avoid all of it. use the fediverse, don’t use commercial internet platforms.
How exactly are new companies supposed to find clients if all advertising is bad?
there should obviously be indexes which tell you what stuff exists. stuff like amazon where you search for “desk” and it shows you the 10 desk providers that can be delivered to your location.
I’ve always found it weird that alcohol doesn’t have warning labels. At least not where I live. I guess the risks are common knowledge but we can say the same for cigarettes
And how there’s no requirements to show ingredients/calories per 100ml, despite it being required on all other foodstuffs. And imagine if they had disgusting pictures on beer cans saying “don’t drink and drive” or such.
Alcohol causes impotence
To be fair, as an alcoholic, alcohol ads had zero effect on my purchases.
Before I quit, the only thing that influenced my buying was the calculator app on my phone. For beer it was Millilitres per can times cans per block divided by ABV, divided by price. Higher number good… For scotch and port it was easier.
divided by abv
Well it’s probably a good thing you quit!
Because when you make the drunks angry they start shooting at cops. Smokers do not do that as much.
You have never tried quitting nicotine!
Advertising is weaponized pollution. All of it. In any shape or form. It is littering and spreading garbage for profit.
Bill Hicks had an excellent suggestion for those in that industry.
