• kyub@discuss.tchncs.de
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    11 days ago

    I’d guess that filling the gap with pretty much anything is better then leaving an actual gap. Maybe add a proof from police that you weren’t in jail or something.

    • dev_null@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      11 days ago

      If a candidate shows me police proof they weren’t in jail, I would be very suspicious: why did they do that? I would never even consider they were in jail, but now that they bring it up…

    • J92@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      11 days ago

      Oh fuck, that’s an enjoyable response. Unless theres something they can check about that. I dont know enough about employment.

      • Tikiporch@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        11 days ago

        Unless they want your fingerprints, they probably aren’t going to check your tax history and that is how they’d find out you lied. If you worked somewhere, you’d have been paid and that means taxes. Some US states protect your tax info from background checks, but not all.

      • Bassman1805@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        11 days ago

        NDAs are almost never all-encompassing. It may not even be legal. Usually an NDA is something like “I worked for [defense contractor] for three years as a mechanical engineer. I can’t tell you about the projects I worked on, but I can elaborate on my responsibilities.”

  • qevlarr@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    12 days ago

    They do. It could mean you were unable to find a job or hiding where you worked because you didn’t do a good job

    • Soup@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      12 days ago

      I love the “unable to find a job” one. Like, IT’S BECAUSE OF FUCKING GAP! HIRE ME, IDIOT!

    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      12 days ago

      Whether you did a good job or not, you can still list your work experience there. They cannot legally contact former employers about you without your permission.

      • qevlarr@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        12 days ago

        Right, so leaving off what you did is a risk. And most people don’t know this, but the hiring process is all about making sure they’re not hiring a bad candidate, more than trying to find the best candidate.

        You should put whatever you did right there on your resume so they don’t have to guess. Even if it’s “stay at home husband”

  • Rose@slrpnk.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    12 days ago

    My response: “I’m a software developer. Middle manager douchebags told me they don’t need my services because they think they can code their apps themselves. Ain’t my first rodeo. They’ll beg us come back to maintain this shit.”

    (Happened last time with VBA.)

  • Owl@mander.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    12 days ago

    Oh yeah sir, that was my year as a porn star, you should have asked your wife about that

  • pohart@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    12 days ago

    People care. When on interview committees I’ve had to argue that gaps aren’t relevant. Maybe it’s someone with the ability to plan and save and they decided to take a year or ten off. Maybe their independently wealthy and is doing it for fun. They probably lost a job at a bad time, couldn’t get hired for 8 months and then got fucked by a gap in their resume for another 18. Some of these gaps are even old. Like what do we care about three months fifteen years ago. Even if that’s a job they got fired from right away it’s olllld.

    • Rooster326@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      12 days ago

      It’s because they hear all of those excuses and realize “It can happen again”

      We want someone desperate.

      But they’ll use dog whistles like “Motivated” and “Hungry”

  • dwzap@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    12 days ago

    I have a “mental health break” line in my resume for a 4 month hiatus. I don’t know if it’s a flex or not, but it’s honest about what it is. At some point, a potential employer asked about it with some stern reservation, which allowed me to avoid a toxic workplace culture. Win win.

  • GustavoM@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    12 days ago

    Nah, folks who hire pay attention to microgestures, reactions, speech etc – not if the interviewer “Had sex with a coworker just for laughs”.

  • Xerxos@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    12 days ago

    You see a lot of people who hire want individuals who live to work: workaholics. Those are the kinds of people you can get the most value from.

    They don’t care that these people exploit themselves and hurt their families in the process. These are the ones they want; therefore, those are the kinds of people we have to masquerade as.

  • prettybunnys@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    12 days ago

    I’ve successfully labeled a period of “being laid off and playing a lot of video games until my bank account got to the area I didn’t like it to be” as a sabbatical.

    ymmv though

  • JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    12 days ago

    “I’m sorry, I can’t talk about that. I signed an NDA.”

    You can even create your own NDA to sign so it won’t be a lie, if you care about that sort of thing.

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      12 days ago

      The NDA trick no longer works, employers caught onto this, and now they have a secret “We employed these people under NDA” list to verify it, and the worst ones don’t upload it there to punish those who dare to leave

      • immutable@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        12 days ago

        I signed a non disclosure agreement about that period of time and am not at liberty to discuss it.

        Well ZILtoid1991 said you have to tell us with who and we can ask them to use the secret non disclosure disclosure mechanism, who was the NDA with.

        The counter party is covered under the terms of the NDA, I can’t disclose who they were either.

        Checkmate

      • Bassman1805@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        11 days ago

        It’s not that they keep a list of who was employed under NDA, it’s that [the fact that you worked here] isn’t what’s actually under NDA, it’s the actual project you were a part of.

        NDAs just aren’t the blanket defense people think they are.

        • vaionko@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          11 days ago

          The NDA can include the whole employment, otherwise, if you were employed for a specific time when a project happened to be run, you can be connected to the project

    • hansolo@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      12 days ago

      This is the best answer by far.

      Second best is “independent researcher.” Make up the metrics. You produced numerous 20,000 word reports for a small group of peers? Great, I have also barfed up a wall of text at reddit.